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Steven Destazio
DVA12924
Captain, B777-200
Joined on March 24 2016
Century Club
Everett Century Club
Portland, OR
161 legs, 728.0 hours
161 legs,
728.0 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
December 10 2017 23:52 ET by Steven Destazio
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I'm tired of 10 hour flights where FSX gets an OOM error just moments away from being done with the flight. Today I flew KIAH-EHAM, i turned off all the scenery I didn't need, I reduced scenery sliders down as low as I could tolerate it, and the seconds my wheels hit the runway at EHAM, OOM and I couldn't even taxi in. I have the same issue with LFPG. Since these are big hubs with Delta code-share, I'll be going to them a lot and I can't deal with FSX being a 32-bit program operating well below where I want it. So, I think it's time to make the switch to Perpar 3D V4.
My question is which license do I need to get so that it will operate the same as FSX did (point to point flights with a flight plan), and also, will my add-ons for FSX work with P3D (aircraft, airport scenery, AFCAD files), could I still use FSPassangersX? Airport Design Editor? MyTraffic AI traffic? Radar Contact ATC? Active Sky Next? REX 4 Texture Direct? ORBX? Ultimate Terrain? --- I paid real money for all these additional programs already and I'd hate to see that go to waste.
I'm looking at the Professional license, but that $200 and If I need to then but all new programs to go with P3D, then is it really worth it? Are there even similar programs out for P3D?
Someone sell me on P3D and which license I need to get so I can fly without breaking the bank.
Thanks
Steven DestazioCaptain, B777-200
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Michael Koger
DVA10785
Captain, EMB-120
OLP
Joined on June 02 2012
50 State Club
Piranha Club
Long Beach Century Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
Double Century Club
"Established on the localizer..."
Oxnard, CA
230 legs, 451.3 hours
56 legs,
118.9 hours online
228 legs,
448.3 hours ACARS
18 legs,
34.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
December 11 2017 00:33 ET by Michael Koger
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Most people use the academic license for P3D. Orbx I believe did a free upgrade to P3D v4. There is a discount to upgrade to ASP4 from ASN. Many payware aircraft and sceneries were upgraded to P3D v4, some for free and others not free. Some things available in 32 bit sims (FSX, FSX:Steam, P3D v1-3) are not currently available in the 64 bit sim(P3D v4). From what I have seen P3D v4 looks really good and has a large amount of potential. I don't have P3D v4, I am using P3D v3.4. I hope this helps you at least some what.
Michael KogerCaptain, EMB-120
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Steven Destazio
DVA12924
Captain, B777-200
Joined on March 24 2016
Century Club
Everett Century Club
Portland, OR
161 legs, 728.0 hours
161 legs,
728.0 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
December 11 2017 00:48 ET by Steven Destazio
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I did some research and it seems like most of the programs will work with P3D. Radar contact and FSPX run on FSUIPC so I will have to get version 5 of that. Per P3D website, most of not all freeware and payware FSX add one will work with P3D.
I wasn’t sure which license to get it and felt like the Academy version would’ve had limited functionality so I bit the bullet and got the professional license. May have been too much, but it should do what I need it to do without limitations.
I am sad to see FSX go because I have been using Microsoft flight simulator since 1998. Now after all that we have been through over the years, I have to say goodbye. I will likely still use it for check rides but actual flights will go to P3D.
Hopefully my computer is built well enough to run it. I kind of went a little low on the graphics card with a one gig Nvidia card. But the rest should be OK. 16 gigs of RAM and and i5 quad core processor at 3.4 GHz.
Anyway, goodbye FSX 
Steven DestazioCaptain, B777-200
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Doyle Edwards
DVA7963
Captain, B737-800
Joined on November 14 2009
Century Club
Everett Century Club
B737 100 Club
"Aviation is an exciting adventure!!"
Oklahoma City, OK USA
173 legs, 456.7 hours
1 legs,
2.1 hours online
172 legs,
455.3 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
December 11 2017 02:24 ET by Doyle Edwards
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Steven Destazio wrote:I did some research and it seems like most of the programs will work with P3D. Radar contact and FSPX run on FSUIPC so I will have to get version 5 of that. Per P3D website, most of not all freeware and payware FSX add one will work with P3D.
I wasn’t sure which license to get it and felt like the Academy version would’ve had limited functionality so I bit the bullet and got the professional license. May have been too much, but it should do what I need it to do without limitations.
I am sad to see FSX go because I have been using Microsoft flight simulator since 1998. Now after all that we have been through over the years, I have to say goodbye. I will likely still use it for check rides but actual flights will go to P3D.
Hopefully my computer is built well enough to run it. I kind of went a little low on the graphics card with a one gig Nvidia card. But the rest should be OK. 16 gigs of RAM and and i5 quad core processor at 3.4 GHz.
Anyway, goodbye FSX
I hope this statement brings a smile to your face. Be it known that Lockheed-Martin bought the right to FSX from Microsoft for their training programs. Yes the real life pilot training programs. LM has fixed and refined the whole FSX sim and rebranded it to Prepar3d. So essentially you have a improved version of FSX with further improvements on the way to keep it up to date with real world training standards. Can you smile now?
Doyle EdwardsCaptain, B737-800
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Steven Destazio
DVA12924
Captain, B777-200
Joined on March 24 2016
Century Club
Everett Century Club
Portland, OR
161 legs, 728.0 hours
161 legs,
728.0 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
December 11 2017 02:33 ET by Steven Destazio
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That did bring a smile to me haha. Thank you.
Just waiting for the download to finish then I get to convert everything over.
Watching videos comparing the 3 sims (FSX, P3Dv4, and XP11). I may not be able to bring ORBX Vector over to P3D as of yet but so far everything else seems like it will work.
Pros and cons for all sims but I’m making this move simply for avoiding OOM I get from FSX because it’s a 32-bit software and P3Dv4 is a 64-bit software. I want to be able to fly without fear the sim will close after 9 and a half hours in to a 10 hour flight.
Download is taking longer than I’d like and it has 3 hours left on it. Started it 2 hours ago and it was supposed to take 4 hours then. But hopefully it will all be worth the wait. Then I get to re-fly the KIAH-EHAM flight again because I couldn’t get the data from FSPX I need for the tracker (don’t get me started on that, I’ll talk your ear off about all types of nerdy stuff I’ve got going on with flight sim)
Steven DestazioCaptain, B777-200
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Doyle Edwards
DVA7963
Captain, B737-800
Joined on November 14 2009
Century Club
Everett Century Club
B737 100 Club
"Aviation is an exciting adventure!!"
Oklahoma City, OK USA
173 legs, 456.7 hours
1 legs,
2.1 hours online
172 legs,
455.3 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
December 11 2017 11:51 ET by Doyle Edwards
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I'm glad you feel better about Prepar3d. Enjoy your beautiful new FSX 
Doyle EdwardsCaptain, B737-800
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Steven Destazio
DVA12924
Captain, B777-200
Joined on March 24 2016
Century Club
Everett Century Club
Portland, OR
161 legs, 728.0 hours
161 legs,
728.0 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
December 11 2017 11:56 ET by Steven Destazio
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Turns out FSPassengers isn’t available for P3Dv4. Dev has been saying he’s working on it since May with no ETA on release. Of all my add ons, that’s the one I used most and got the most from.
Steven DestazioCaptain, B777-200
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Derek Varnum
DVA686
Captain, B777-200
OLP
Joined on July 12 2002
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Everett 250 Club
Online Double Century Club
Million Mile Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
US Capital Club
Quincentenary Club
Cumming, GA
527 legs, 2,658.7 hours
215 legs,
924.2 hours online
455 legs,
2,388.8 hours ACARS
5 legs,
51.6 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
December 12 2017 00:14 ET by Derek Varnum
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Hope the switch works out for you and is a big improvement. I will say this; I haven’t had any issues with FSX Steam (don’t know if you were using the boxes or Steam) and I use a crappy set up. MacBook Pro running through parallels. I do 10-14 hour flights no problem. I wonder if it was one of payware addons that was causing the OOM or maybe your .cfg was out of wack. Anyways, I am looking at making the jump myself but need a new rig first.
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Steven Destazio
DVA12924
Captain, B777-200
Joined on March 24 2016
Century Club
Everett Century Club
Portland, OR
161 legs, 728.0 hours
161 legs,
728.0 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
December 12 2017 00:29 ET by Steven Destazio
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I opened P3D4 this morning to be met with 1.8 FPS on 1 notch from lowest settings. After spending the $ for P3D, I didn't want to call it a lost cause and DVA isn't in full support of X-Plane 11 yet so wouldn't be worth it to get that. So I went to best buy and we decided it was the graphics card causing low FPS in P3D since I have a good processor and 16GB RAM. Spent way more money than I should have but got Nvidia GeForce 1080 8GB card. Got it home and installed it, but my power supply wassnt going to work with the new card. Best buy was out of them in the store and the next closest place to get one was an hour drive away. Made that drive and back and installed the new power supply. Went to turn everything on and make sure everything was working and found out the cable I had for the monitor to graphics card wont work because it was too old. Went Back to best buy and got a new cable. Came home and plugged in the cable and the monitor wouldn't recognize it even tho it fit. went BACK to best buy AGAIN (now 4 trips out to get this working) and exchanged the DisplayPort cable for a DVI cable and finally its working. Installing the graphics card drivers now and then I'll play around with P3D and hope I get better FPS. Otherwise, this was all a HUGE waste of money.
And to answer your question, I was using the box FSX Acceleration SP2. I never went to Steam because I would have had to reinstall FSX and all the add-ons. Which I am now doing anyway. But, I now have a 64-bit flight sim. All I'm missing is FSPassengers which per the dev should be updated for 64-bit soon. I really like FSP and hate the thought of flying without it. I may ditch the box FSX for FSX Steam if FSP 64-bit doesn't come out soon.
I was only getting the OOM on long flights into LFPG and EHAM using a freeware SkySpirit2012 Boeing 777-200LR with a freeware add-on panel. I could use the same plane and fly anywhere else without problems (did a 15 hour KATL-FAOR) and wouldn't even try to think about getting close to OOM. Just those 2 airports LFPG and EHAM. But I read that a lot of FSX users were getting OOM at those airports only also, and no fix due to 32-bit limitations with FSX.
Steven DestazioCaptain, B777-200
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Steven Destazio
DVA12924
Captain, B777-200
Joined on March 24 2016
Century Club
Everett Century Club
Portland, OR
161 legs, 728.0 hours
161 legs,
728.0 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
December 12 2017 15:54 ET by Steven Destazio
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This is turning out to be quiet the task. Installing all the add-ons now. But I still have to learn how to transfer all my old FSX AFCAD files over to P3D. I think all I have to do is select "Yes" or "True" on the "Draw Surface" and "Draw Detail" boxes on all the taxiways/runways/airport roads. Won't be so time consuming if thats the case thanks to the "Select All" and "Edit" buttons on ADE.
If anyone knows for sure how to work with ADE and P3D, please let me know! Thanks
Oh! I almost forgot to say after getting the new graphics card up and running, P3Dv4 on MAX settings (before and add-ons like MyTraffic, Active Sky, REX, ORBX, etc) I was getting 14-40 (target 40) FPS in KATL. Ground was 14-20 and in the air low altitude was 18-40. Very flyable. I'll likely have to scale it back a little but regardless it looks amazing!
Steven DestazioCaptain, B777-200
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Steven Destazio
DVA12924
Captain, B777-200
Joined on March 24 2016
Century Club
Everett Century Club
Portland, OR
161 legs, 728.0 hours
161 legs,
728.0 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
December 13 2017 11:00 ET by Steven Destazio
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After nearly 48 hours of computer hardware upgrades, downloading and installing P3Dv4 compatible add-ons, hours upon hours of researching problems with MyTraffic install and working out adding the airport scenery and stand-alone AFCAD files into P3Dv4, I think I have finally finished. I could't install Ultimate Terrain X because although the forms said it was a free update, it claims my older version product ID codes will not work and wants $30 each for the 4 files. I don't feel like dumping another $120 into the sim when I feel like it will work fine for now without UTX (I'll look at installing it again after I work some more overtime to pay for all I've spent already. Pretty much bought myself birthday and Christmas gifts for the next 10 years with this). So only UTX and FSPassengers (no V4 compatibility as of yet *very sad face*) were not transferred over yet.
Its 8AM here and I've been up all night and all day yesterday working on this project. I'm tired and want to sleep now. I've done some minor test flights already, but I'll do the first full flight when I wake up in a few hours.
Thank you to all who helped with this difficult process
Steven DestazioCaptain, B777-200
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