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Posted onPost created on August 23 2011 06:45 ET by John Anderson

I just installed GEX, and I love it.
The problem (or complaint) I have is "the edge of the world." That line between ground textures and oblivion.
This is FS9 and all sliders are maxed out. You can see this in the ground as well as the ocean.

How do I get rid of that line?

John Anderson (DVA9677)

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Posted onPost created on August 23 2011 09:54 ET by Alan Barber

John - what you are seeing is called 'The iron cross' in FS terms. If you go to overhead view and zoom out you willl get a better idea of its extent. A good way to start getting rid of it is to set your visibilty (sight distance) down to 60sm. If you have a registered version of FSUIPC you can also play with the vis settings in there. If you have Active Sky you can set vis to 59 or less sm which helps even more. I use a combination of the three and very rarely experience this now. If you google FS Iron Cross there should be plenty of info out there. Come back if you need any help or email me directly.

Edit: also make sure you have your terrain settings to max in FS.

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on August 23 2011 12:48 ET by Alan Barber

J - to add to my edit - just to eliminate to possibility that its a terrain distance problem, just check that the following lines are in your fs9.cfg fille under the [terrain section]

TERRAIN_EXTENDED_TEXTURES=1
TERRAIN_DEFAULT_RADIUS=9.5000000
TERRAIN_EXTENDED_RADIUS=4.500000
TERRAIN_EXTENDED_LEVELS=4

Line 1 is configurable from within FS9, but whilst your editing the cfg you may as well stick it in there. The last three values are the highest that fs9 recognises, I have seen cfg files with higher values in there but personally I have never seen any difference.

The 'iron cross' is hard coded into fs so there is no way that I know of to get rid of it, I've always tried to hide it up. It obviously becomes more noticeable the higher you fly.

Holger Sandmann of Misty Fjords fame posted a very good article on this problem a while ago, I used to have it bookmarked, but many reformats have meant that I have lost the link, I'll see if I can find it.

Do try playing with the vis settings too - imho it can make a world (not the edge of it!!) of difference.

Edit: googling fs9 iron cross now seems to bring up hits on 'The rise of flight', best avoid doing that!

Alan Barber

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Posted onPost created on August 23 2011 13:01 ET by Alan Barber

J - can't find the exact article but this explains it very well http://www.visualflight.co.uk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5193

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on August 23 2011 13:45 ET by John Anderson

A wealth of info.

Thanks, Alan.

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Posted onPost created on August 23 2011 13:56 ET by James Hepburn

This is the file you need. If literally softens the horizon. You won't regret it. Create an account at www.flightsim.com [if you don't already have one -- it's free] and sign in to download the file.
Follow this link:

http://flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=112645

If for some reason it doesn't work, search for "Soft Skies".

For those of you that use FSX there is one for that as well. Lemme know if you like it as much as i do.

James Hepburn (DVA2787)

Posted onPost created on August 23 2011 15:11 ET by Alan Barber

James is bang on the mark with that too, there is also a fix called soft horizons. Bear in mind though that if you use REX, both of these will overwrite REX installed textures. Also REX does install a similar texture in a good number of it's texture sets, don't know which tho! Sorry

Alan Barber

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Posted onPost created on August 23 2011 17:58 ET by John Anderson

I do use REX frown

I guess I'll have to do some research on that, but in the meantime, would these textures, from softhr07.zip, effect GEX sky textures, or GEX ground textures for that matter?

John Anderson (DVA9677)

Posted onPost created on August 24 2011 00:09 ET by James Hepburn

It only affects sky textures. Nothing to do with ground textures. "softhr07.zip" is an upgrade [[that I only became aware of it today when I did the search]] to a previous "softhr.zip" . I have "softhr.zip" and the sky textures for that are not REX quality but they really aren't bad at all either. I'm guessing the update improves on the sky textures as the horizon fading was perfect from the previous version. I haven't tested it yet but I will do a flight soon and report back here on what I find.

James Hepburn (DVA2787)

Posted onPost created on August 24 2011 07:30 ET by John Anderson

Beautiful.

Thanks.

John Anderson (DVA9677)

Posted onPost created on August 24 2011 20:27 ET by John Anderson

I tried it (softhr07) and it didn't work. The cross is still there.
I guess I just have to deal with the annoyance.

Thanks for your suggestions, gentlemen.

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Posted onPost created on August 25 2011 01:03 ET by Stephan Faessler

you have UTX as well?

Stephan Faessler (DVA9544)

Posted onPost created on August 25 2011 05:47 ET by John Anderson

I have REX and GEX installed, but not UTX.

John Anderson (DVA9677)

Posted onPost created on August 25 2011 09:09 ET by James Hepburn

You must have done something wrong. Textures don't lie smile

If you installed to the correct folder you should have beautiful horizons. Note that after installing soft horizons you shouldn't use REX or GEX to further modify sky textures. They will overwrite the soft horizon files. Install soft horizons again and call it done. Go fly immediately afterwards and take a look at your skies.

James Hepburn (DVA2787)

Posted onPost created on August 25 2011 09:57 ET by John Anderson

What I did was to create a folder named "SkyBackup" then copied all the files with the prefix of "sky_" into that folder, then extracted the files into textures folder, overwriting all.

I climbed out to FL320 and still saw the very conspicuous line. I didn't mess with REX or GEX afterward, and still haven't made any changes. I assumed that since REX and GEX install texture files and maybe a config, and I made no other changes, REX and GEX shouldn't have made a difference.

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Posted onPost created on August 25 2011 12:09 ET by Alan Barber

Jae - here are my settings from FS9

And Active Sky

I'm obviously assuming that you have Active Sky!! Its shot 2 that should hopefully sort you out. Once you have set the vis settings in Active Sky, fsuipc should need to be used.

Also make sure that your FS9.cfg contains the lines I mentioned above.

Try and see if these help.

Come back to me and let me know how you get on.

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on August 25 2011 20:04 ET by James Hepburn

Good deal Alan. I would have suggested those settings after his last comment. Would be good if he could post his settings prior to what you suggested.

James Hepburn (DVA2787)

Posted onPost created on August 26 2011 02:25 ET by Alan Barber

Edit - for some reason my display resolution was at 16bit - obviously make sure yours is at 32bit

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on August 26 2011 06:51 ET by John Anderson

The difference between mine and yours was MipMapping was at 8 and sight was maxed.
I don't have AS Evolution, but I do have Active Sky2004.5

Where should these be . . .

Posted onPost created on August 26 2011 07:46 ET by Alan Barber

J - that looks fine to me. The only thing you could alter is the Maximum Visibility, bringing it down til it alleviates the problem. Did reigning in your FS9 visibilty settings help?

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on August 26 2011 07:50 ET by John Anderson

I haven't been able to check yet. Have had a couple of VERY long days at work.

Thanks

John Anderson (DVA9677)

Posted onPost created on August 28 2011 18:40 ET by John Anderson

I took Max Vis in ActiveSky to 20. All but gone . . .

This is cruising at FL390

.

John Anderson (DVA9677)

Posted onPost created on August 29 2011 03:29 ET by Alan Barber

That is a really cool shot J and looks much better. Keep experimenting and stepping the vis up. You have a baseline now to work from, just make a note of your settings!!!

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on September 09 2011 16:07 ET by James Hepburn

Told u it would work wink

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