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DVA5947
Captain, B777-200
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Marshall, MN USA

574 legs, 2,693.6 hours
499 legs, 2,397.0 hours online
516 legs, 2,271.3 hours ACARS
5 legs, 22.2 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 18 2008 14:10 ET by Alex Deutz

just a suggestion but. what if dva had charter flights. so then you could go to some destinations that arent on the flight schedule........maybe have it for executives and have citation x or something.. i dont know just a suggestion

DVA1427
Senior Captain, MD-11
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"Livin' in the Dog Pound!"
Kannapolis, NC

558 legs, 1,984.3 hours
250 legs, 611.8 hours online
384 legs, 1,530.5 hours ACARS
38 legs, 82.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 18 2008 15:08 ET by Lewis Gregory

Well, we're simulating a scheduled airline, not somebody like Netjets or Flight Options (both of which have VAs simulating their ops, I think, I know FO does). It's really not within our "mission" as a VA to do on-demand charter ops, especially with executive jets. Plus, it's a huge workload on staff to put together routes, destinations, all that stuff. I've been a part of a couple of executive-charter VAs over the years, and the staff workload in them has been crazy.

Lewis Gregory

Senior Captain, MD-11

DVA5270
Senior Captain, B737-800

Joined on September 27 2007
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"p=np"
Charleston, SC USA

977 legs, 1,725.8 hours
578 legs, 894.1 hours online
931 legs, 1,647.1 hours ACARS
43 legs, 67.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 18 2008 20:54 ET by Don Thomas

I worked at one of those VA's that had charters. One of my "jobs" was writing charters for Europe. Bo you ain't missing nothing.

Don Thomas

Senior Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on August 18 2008 23:28 ET by Alex Deutz

DVA5066
Captain, B757-200

Joined on October 05 2007
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NY

1,991 legs, 5,286.8 hours
172 legs, 333.7 hours online
1,903 legs, 4,996.5 hours ACARS
81 legs, 148.4 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 19 2008 19:52 ET by Michael Marano

How about just the major charters (ie sports team charters) that use DL mainline aircraft.

Michael Marano (DVA5066)

Posted onPost created on August 19 2008 22:21 ET by Alex Deutz

yes thats what i was also thinking....

Posted onPost created on August 21 2008 01:01 ET by Alex Deutz

yeah you should have like atlanta sport teams charters...or at least post every flight in the events section...just another suggestion

DVA3337
First Officer, B767-300

Joined on June 23 2006
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"Master of the 737-700 and 737-800!"
Southeastern United States

133 legs, 348.3 hours
102 legs, 292.9 hours online
97 legs, 269.1 hours ACARS
26 legs, 108.4 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 21 2008 07:17 ET by Steven Glass

Dont mean to sound rude, but Good luck finding those flights wink

DVA950
Senior Captain, B737-800

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"Houston, We have a Problem"
Nazareth, PA USA

1,210 legs, 2,875.1 hours
1,147 legs, 2,716.7 hours online
886 legs, 1,977.2 hours ACARS
206 legs, 484.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 21 2008 12:19 ET by Anthony Piasecki

I have to reiterate Lewis's comments, We are based on real world ops here at DVA, yes delta may be a carrier of different franchises, But there is one thing to cover here, updating the data base, which means extra time for upper management to redo, continuously to allow these, Setting up and getting the flight routes to emulate, in the Events department. I am not trying to be a spoiled sport here, but there is allot in the background that has to be done for all of this that we have now.

You are more than welcome to fly these, but remember that they are not counted flights, I fly allot of VFR routes that are not counted just to change up the scenery of things for myself. I look at it as another way of having an excuse to fly smile

Numbers are numbers, but the real joy is flying.... That is all, "You are free to fly about the country." wink

Anthony Piasecki

Senior Captain, B737-800

DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
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"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA

2,313 legs, 9,317.7 hours
240 legs, 553.9 hours online
1,971 legs, 8,110.8 hours ACARS
75 legs, 196.3 hours event
2,349 legs, 9,452.6 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4 hours
CURRENTLY LOGGED IN

Posted onPost created on August 21 2008 12:31 ET by Luke Kolin

I'm not completely averse to Charters, provided that someone can get me an authoritative data source that is regularly and automatically updated. The problem is that one is not publicly available, to the best of my knowledge. Ultimately, it needs to be in our database for you to be able to fly it and have the flight approved.

If not, there's nothing stopping you from flying the flight yourself, just not logging it.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on August 21 2008 13:08 ET by Alex Deutz

well could i make like a schedule for chartering the falcons or something in the online forum and post times ill fly there and stuff... can i do that?????

Posted onPost created on August 21 2008 15:18 ET by Lewis Gregory

You can, Bo, nobody's stopping you from flying a Falcons charter and having fun doing it. But you can't PIREP the flights here unles they're in our schedule.

Lewis Gregory

Senior Captain, MD-11

DVA3115
Captain, B757-200

Joined on May 04 2006
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"A good pilot never stops learning!"
Kaysville, UT

270 legs, 520.9 hours
265 legs, 512.9 hours online
255 legs, 491.6 hours ACARS
2 legs, 3.2 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 07 2009 17:28 ET by Aaron Cook

Perhaps people are thinking too hard. I have access to the charters Delta flys on a daily basis (i work for Delta Cargo at SLC). No doubt there are others that work reservations/Ramp etc. who would have access via the Delta WEB Vision program or Delta Term program. Piece of cake. All it really is flight numbers and routes. I believe that charters could be a meaningful addition to Delta VA. The real airline flys charters. All the Delta pilots I know and talk to always have great stories to tell of charter flights. Perhaps, charter flights could work like checkride flights. Its no big deal for ACARS staff to add a "CHARTER" button in their program. Then all that would be needed is for the one OK'ing the flight to check the flight to make sure it was valid. Why would that be so hard?

Aaron Cook (DVA3115)

DVA5447
Captain, B737-800

Joined on January 16 2008
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"Lets go Timbers! RCTID"
Cornelius, OR

160 legs, 303.6 hours
27 legs, 46.1 hours online
123 legs, 241.8 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on March 10 2009 16:34 ET by Casey Crebs

I like Aaron's idea here.

Casey Crebs

Captain, B737-800

DVA2315
Senior Captain, MD-88

Joined on April 30 2005
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"www.harborcounty.net"
Cypress, TX USA

674 legs, 1,380.9 hours
506 legs, 907.6 hours online
495 legs, 1,029.0 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on March 10 2009 18:06 ET by Daniel Shaw

The only problem with people who work for Delta and have access to that information (like me and Aaron) is that the information we have access to is propietary and not available to the public, hence only people like us have access to it. So if we were to put it all over the net, and Delta found out, we could be fired and or have legal action brought against us.

Daniel Shaw

Senior Captain, MD-88

Posted onPost created on March 13 2009 17:04 ET by Aaron Cook

Deltas Charters are public information, you can find it on their website or on flightaware (just search airborne by operator, any flights in the 9800 are typically charters).

Aaron Cook (DVA3115)

Posted onPost created on March 13 2009 20:42 ET by Michael Marano

You can usually see a list of major charters on airliners.net's forum

Michael Marano (DVA5066)

DVA2780
Captain, B777-200

Joined on December 29 2005
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"Go big or go home"
Lakeside, CA USA

317 legs, 1,315.4 hours
41 legs, 173.6 hours online
296 legs, 1,235.0 hours ACARS
2 legs, 14.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 14 2009 15:32 ET by Dane Penington

My hometown football team uses Delta and usually a 767. I find their flights on flightaware and I asked this question once but got no response. Personally, I'll do the leg work, proving the flight existed is easy, and I can fly my LDS where ever the Chargers go.
Just a thought

Dane Penington

Captain, B777-200

DVA5661
Senior Captain, B737-800
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"737 or MD-11, how far you wanna go?"
Melbourne, FL USA

1,928 legs, 4,823.7 hours
304 legs, 639.9 hours online
1,880 legs, 4,735.4 hours ACARS
19 legs, 40.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 14 2009 18:44 ET by Vic DeSantis

Ahhhh...the Air Force Spcial Missions Squadron at Andrews does have 757 flights. Perhaps we should look into what appears to "regular" flights between Washington and say...San Francisco? Oh never mind.those are Gulfstream 5 flights...I forgot.

Vic DeSantis (DVA5661)

Posted onPost created on March 14 2009 22:07 ET by Anthony Piasecki

7 month old thread, someone got bored smile

Anthony Piasecki

Senior Captain, B737-800

DVA6816
First Officer, MD-88

Joined on December 29 2008

"777 in las vegas is good in 2 ways"
New Rochelle, NY USA

12 legs, 19.8 hours
6 legs, 7.4 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on April 06 2009 19:47 ET by Tanner Glick

delta does have a charter program. but there are alot of planes we would have to make before launching one. check this link http://www.airelite.com/index.cfm

Tanner Glick (DVA6816)

DVA7130
Senior Captain, B727-200
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Joined on March 23 2009
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Tyrone, GA USA

846 legs, 1,482.4 hours
814 legs, 1,429.8 hours online
818 legs, 1,443.2 hours ACARS
178 legs, 322.6 hours event

Posted onPost created on April 17 2009 21:30 ET by Ryan Morse

atlanta braves?

Ryan Morse (DVA7130)

DVA6897
Captain, B747-400

Joined on January 14 2009
Century Club

""aviate, navigate, communicate""
FL USA

153 legs, 603.4 hours
96 legs, 281.2 hours online
152 legs, 601.8 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on April 20 2009 14:09 ET by Warner Boyd

I think the AirElite idea is a great one. I am in the corporate world full time so this would be really cool. I understand that it'd take quite a bit of work and cooperation, but I'd be willing to help out in whatever capacity is needed.
Couldn't flights be limited by the aircraft that are readily available? (LR45 and Citation X are two that immediately pop into my mind). Of course the BBJ is also available...

Warner Boyd

Captain, B747-400

DVA4290
Senior Captain, CRJ-200

Joined on April 04 2007
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"Lightning coming out of that one"
Houston, TX USA

502 legs, 829.4 hours
340 legs, 575.5 hours online
421 legs, 683.7 hours ACARS
41 legs, 81.2 hours event

Posted onPost created on April 21 2009 18:09 ET by Andrew Lynn

I think everyone is missing what Luke's trying to say. Somehow, the data, whether it's flight awre, DL.com, etc. etc. on and on has to be linked some how to our database here. No matter how much people say they will do the legwork; you can't possibly have someone update the database daily on the many charter flights that DL operates...even if they say they would. It's just not practical and it's not how we've done business which is what makes us the best VA.

These threads are really getting nowhere. I would suggest you e-mail Luke and Terry with your ideas and they will get in contact with you about what they think and whether it's a go or no go.

Andrew Lynn

Senior Captain, CRJ-200

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