Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - Charters: Are they worth the effort?

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | Charters: Are they worth the effort?

DVA3115
Captain, B757-200

Joined on May 04 2006
Double Century Club
Online Double Century Club

"A good pilot never stops learning!"
Kaysville, UT

270 legs, 520.9 hours
265 legs, 512.9 hours online
255 legs, 491.6 hours ACARS
2 legs, 3.2 hours event

Posted onPost created on February 28 2009 13:52 ET by Aaron Cook

Delta operates charters on a near daily basis to many locations. A hot topic right now is troop withdrawal from Iraq where 767-300s are being charted by the Air Mobility Command (Air Force). Regular flights occur between Kuwait International to Hahn Aiport in Frankfurt Germany to JFK in New York to air bases in the US (KWI - HHN - JFK - ***). Delta also charters many other events (such as sports teams or politicians) but the troop transfer is the main one Ive seen lately. I, along with many others no doubt, have access to what these flights are (usually in the 9800 number range) and would be happy to supply them if there was a demand and if it could be made DeltaVA approved. What do think? Is it worth the effort?

See http://www.delta.com/business_programs_services/charter_flights/index.jsp

Aaron Cook (DVA3115)

DVA2088
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP

Joined on January 13 2005
Online Century Club
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50 State Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
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Seattle, WA USA

817 legs, 2,352.9 hours
192 legs, 620.9 hours online
673 legs, 1,872.6 hours ACARS
11 legs, 54.5 hours event

Posted onPost created on February 28 2009 15:24 ET by Eric Paul

I would like to see this happen. Even with the huge amount of available DVA flights available, I on occaision like to enjoy something a little different.

Eric Paul (DVA2088)

DVA5578
Captain, B757-200

Joined on February 04 2008
Double Century Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary

Stilwell, KS USA

249 legs, 331.3 hours
35 legs, 44.5 hours online
248 legs, 330.0 hours ACARS
2 legs, 2.8 hours event

Posted onPost created on February 28 2009 22:36 ET by Joel Cox

First of all, I'd love to see this happen. For instance, recently, I know here in Daytona, we had a bunch of the DAL98xx flights come in. We had up to 757's here, which was a nice sight to see. Secondly, to go along with the whole charter flight addition. Has anyone ever considered adding Delta AirElite to the airline? I know it really doesn't go along with the question here, but, I felt it might fight in some way
http://www.airelite.com/

Joel Cox

Captain, B757-200

DVA6424
Captain, CRJ-200
E-MAIL

Joined on September 20 2008
Quatercentenary Club

"I dont believe in a no-win scenario""
Midwestern United States

464 legs, 621.1 hours
256 legs, 256.6 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on February 28 2009 22:52 ET by David Digney

Delta Charters are used for most NFL teams..The Packers use Northwest,usually 757's,and are 4-digits;

David Digney

Captain, CRJ-200

DVA6807
First Officer, B757-200

Joined on December 19 2008

Hughesville, MO USA

3 legs, 6.5 hours
2 legs, 5.1 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on March 01 2009 23:20 ET by Jarron Lomax

I like the sound of both these ideas, especially the Air Elite bizjets. That would certainly set us that much more apart as an outstanding VA smile

Jarron Lomax

First Officer, B757-200

DVA3076
Captain, B767-300

Joined on April 21 2006
Century Club

"Fly High, Striaght but mostly SAFE!!"
Rock Hill, SC USA

107 legs, 249.5 hours
47 legs, 120.4 hours online
73 legs, 161.2 hours ACARS
8 legs, 19.3 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 02 2009 12:36 ET by David Taylor

I would love to see both especially air Elite, that would be awesome!

David Taylor

Captain, B767-300

DVA6399
Captain, B777-200

Joined on December 19 2007
Century Club

Tel Aviv, Israel Israel

152 legs, 596.5 hours
73 legs, 346.6 hours online
141 legs, 549.6 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on March 02 2009 14:44 ET by Jeff Popoviz

The Eagles use DAL and NWA!

Jeff Popoviz (DVA6399)

Posted onPost created on March 02 2009 17:06 ET by David Digney

When i flew for American Trans Air,charters were a daily thing...And i flew L-1011',& 757's

David Digney

Captain, CRJ-200

Posted onPost created on March 06 2009 14:45 ET by Aaron Cook

World Baseball Classic 2009!

I wrote all the flight numbers down but forgot it nuts

Delta Chartered at least 8 probably ten of the world baseball teams to the grand tournament in Toronto, Canada. Team USA went on a B752 with flight number DAL9775. Among the teams i remember were Team Venezuela, Team Panama, etc. Most of flights I observed were from places in Florida to CYYZ.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9775 Team USA!
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9787

Aaron Cook (DVA3115)

DVA6540
Captain, B777-200

Joined on October 20 2008
Double Century Club
50 State Club

Caracas, Distrito Federal VE

240 legs, 562.2 hours
8 legs, 12.1 hours online
177 legs, 412.8 hours ACARS
12 legs, 23.1 hours event
363 legs, 903.4 hours total

Posted onPost created on March 06 2009 15:07 ET by Augusto Casado

Woooh!! Go Venezuela!! (I love the Baseball.. we have a great team!!) It will be a few out of Orlando to CYYZ... At least Venezuela.. Actually Aaron, not all the games are at Toronto.. the Final game it's in Los Angeles, the group A games are at Tokyo.. The group B games are at Mexico, the group C games are at Toronto and the group D games are in San Juan.. the Elimination round games are in Miami and San Diego.. There will be some Delta charters for those team during March..

Augusto Casado (DVA6540)

Posted onPost created on March 06 2009 20:25 ET by Aaron Cook

Thanks for clarification Augusto. Its obvious the Delta stays active in the charter market. So should Delta VA try to emulate that interesting and exiting facet of business as well? Let the big shots know about it! Thanks for the comments. wink

Posted onPost created on March 06 2009 21:28 ET by Augusto Casado

No problem... It will be great if we could fly those charters!!

Augusto Casado (DVA6540)

DVA2448
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on July 05 2005
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Spring Lake, MI

343 legs, 971.5 hours
173 legs, 431.4 hours online
300 legs, 812.3 hours ACARS
7 legs, 36.1 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 07 2009 15:58 ET by Tim Fox

Just a couple of other threads on this that may answer your questions:

http://www.deltava.org/thread.do?id=0xe865

http://www.deltava.org/thread.do?id=0x111a2

Tim Fox (DVA2448)

Posted onPost created on March 08 2009 00:40 ET by Aaron Cook

Perhaps people are thinking too hard. I have access to the charters Delta flys on a daily basis (i work for Delta Cargo at SLC). No doubt there are others that work reservations/Ramp etc. who would have access via the Delta WEB Vision program or Delta Term program. Piece of cake. All it really is flight numbers and routes. I believe that charters could be a meaningful addition to Delta VA. The real airline flys charters. All the Delta pilots I know and talk to always have great stories to tell of charter flights. Perhaps, charter flights could work like checkride flights. Its no big deal for ACARS staff to add a "CHARTER" button in their program. Then all that would be needed is for the one OK'ing the flight to check the flight to make sure it was valid. Or maybe even including that information in the Remarks section. Then the DVa staff would only need to post the charters for that day. Why would that be so hard?

Aaron Cook (DVA3115)

Posted onPost created on March 08 2009 18:25 ET by Aaron Cook

03/08/2009

CHARTER

LOF 9997/08MAR
ORG SKED ETD OUT OFF DST SKIN ETA IN DP SHIP PSG LP RMKS
ATL 1605 --- 1608 1638 MGM 1600 1615 1610 61 0940 000 DC
MGM 1800 1735 --- --- DCA 2130*2024* --- 61 0940 000 DC

**FLIGHT STATUS REMARKS**
08/2151Z - AUTHORIZED EARLY DEPARTURE PER FLT CNTL
08/2047Z - ENRTE MGM TPS.15
08/1120Z - FAITH AND POLITICS INSTITUTE CHARTER. . .WLOP MD-88. . .
FERRY ATL-MGM/LIVE MGM-DCA. TURNS 9920/09

Just a snipet from a charter for today -- They happen all the time. Although the raw text is hard to read perhaps, this shows an MD-88 chartered by the "Faith and Politics Institute". MGM to DCA while the ATL to MGM is simply a ferry flight for the charter.

Aaron Cook (DVA3115)

Posted onPost created on March 12 2009 18:20 ET by Aaron Cook

3/12/09

Check following charter flights:

DAL9775 B757-200 ATL-YYZ-MIA-ATL http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9775
DAL9786 B757-200 ATL-YYZ-MIA-ATL http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9786
DAL9800 B757-200 ATL-SJU-MIA-ATL http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9800

All of them were World Baseball Classic teams getting moved.

Aaron Cook (DVA3115)

DVA6816
First Officer, MD-88

Joined on December 29 2008

"777 in las vegas is good in 2 ways"
New Rochelle, NY USA

12 legs, 19.8 hours
6 legs, 7.4 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on March 19 2009 18:53 ET by Tanner Glick

http://www.airelite.com/index.cfm check out this link for the delta charter website. they have alot of business jets that we would have to make before launching a charter section. frown

DVA6897
Captain, B747-400

Joined on January 14 2009
Century Club

""aviate, navigate, communicate""
FL USA

153 legs, 603.4 hours
96 legs, 281.2 hours online
152 legs, 601.8 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on April 20 2009 13:54 ET by Warner Boyd

I know AirElite has lots of different types on their charter certificate, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to start slow and use the default LR45 and maybe have the option of the Citation X (I think WILCO makes it?)
Let's not forget the BBJ is just a 737-700 with the -800 wing and gear.
I'm all for this happening, both the charter and the AirElite!

Warner Boyd

Captain, B747-400

DVA5151
Captain, B777-200

Joined on October 29 2007
B757 100 Club
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"Fly Delta Jets!"
Columbia, SC USA

688 legs, 2,401.2 hours
352 legs, 1,024.5 hours online
684 legs, 2,394.0 hours ACARS
8 legs, 18.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on April 21 2009 15:40 ET by Chuck Dreier

The University of South Carolina uses the 752 and every once in awhile the 738 for its football team. I've asked for, and gotten permission, to fly these trips on the day they actually took place. I confirmed the flight via FlightAware. If I remember correctly, I asked through the Help Desk or a direct email to one of the DVA management. smile

DVA2018
Chief Pilot, ERJ-170
OLP, 737-ATP

Joined on November 23 2004
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Ralston, NE

12,098 legs, 27,185.7 hours
3,951 legs, 7,571.5 hours online
10,856 legs, 22,592.1 hours ACARS
4 legs, 10.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on May 08 2009 14:12 ET by Matthew Whitaker

I know that a VSOA organization is partnering up with civilian VAs to run charter flights for them. I won't name any names as that might be advertising here, which is against the rules, but i know this military VA would definately be interested in working something out with DVA on that.

Matthew Whitaker

Chief Pilot, ERJ-170

DVA950
Senior Captain, B737-800

Joined on November 19 2002
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"Houston, We have a Problem"
Nazareth, PA USA

1,210 legs, 2,875.1 hours
1,147 legs, 2,716.7 hours online
886 legs, 1,977.2 hours ACARS
206 legs, 484.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on May 09 2009 09:40 ET by Anthony Piasecki

Not to beat a dead horse on the subject, but this has been discussed before http://www.deltava.org/thread.do?id=0x111a2

Anthony Piasecki

Senior Captain, B737-800

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