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Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | 787? will it happen
DVA6936
First Officer, B777-200

Joined on January 22 2009
Online Century Club
50 State Club
Double Century Club

Western United States

217 legs, 732.8 hours
153 legs, 560.3 hours online
200 legs, 678.8 hours ACARS
1 legs, 3.4 hours event
Posted onPost created on May 13 2009 23:45 ET by Tyson Dohrer
Will DVA be using the 787 in the future? if so will it be available to fsx users?

Tyson Dohrer

First Officer, B777-200
DVA7261
Captain, B767-300

Joined on April 24 2009

"I bleed Boeing, long live the 757"
Middle East

66 legs, 214.7 hours
60 legs, 199.2 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on May 14 2009 01:56 ET by Justin Campbell
I'd assume that they would if the Delta get's it in the real world, but that's just my opinion. As far as fsx availabilty I'm sure there will be a model developed, because they are goin to have to wait a while anyway for the technical data, and with fsx being the "main" platform I cant see it being left out.


DVA4843
Captain, B777-200

Joined on August 11 2007
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Everett 500 Club
Two Million Mile Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Eight Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"Fly High!"
Northeastern United States

861 legs, 5,077.0 hours
466 legs, 2,975.4 hours online
828 legs, 4,916.0 hours ACARS
48 legs, 276.5 hours event
Posted onPost created on May 14 2009 12:10 ET by Frank Muniz
i'll be looking to transfer to the 787 if we can get good models...

Frank Muniz

Captain, B777-200
DVA4290
Senior Captain, CRJ-200

Joined on April 04 2007
50 State Club
Online Triple Century Club
Quincentenary Club

"Lightning coming out of that one"
Houston, TX USA

502 legs, 829.4 hours
340 legs, 575.5 hours online
421 legs, 683.7 hours ACARS
41 legs, 81.2 hours event
Posted onPost created on May 14 2009 20:39 ET by Andrew Lynn
Just looking at the demand for the 787 RW, I can only imagine that there will be some sort of paywayre available once research can be done by the software developers. I wouldn't count on anything for several years as it takes up to a year or more to create a good bird, on top of waiting for the thing to enter regular scheduled airline service which is when they will most likely start data collection.

The 18 NW orders are still on the books and firm but some of the earlier slots have already been given up so we won't see them in the DL fleet RW as early as originally planned.

Andrew Lynn

Senior Captain, CRJ-200
DVA6936
First Officer, B777-200

Joined on January 22 2009
Online Century Club
50 State Club
Double Century Club

Western United States

217 legs, 732.8 hours
153 legs, 560.3 hours online
200 legs, 678.8 hours ACARS
1 legs, 3.4 hours event
Posted onPost created on May 14 2009 21:15 ET by Tyson Dohrer
Sounds good not promising but time will tell thanks for the info

Tyson Dohrer

First Officer, B777-200
DVA2784
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP, COMM, 737-ATP

Joined on January 01 2006
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Online Double Century Club
Quad-Jet Quartermaster
US Mountaineer Club
Everett 1500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
US Coastal Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Four Million Mile Club

"The PAST...learn from it or repeat it."
Highland Home, AL USA

2,310 legs, 9,806.8 hours
243 legs, 873.7 hours online
2,037 legs, 8,595.0 hours ACARS
22 legs, 51.7 hours event
0 legs dispatched, 0.5 hours
Posted onPost created on May 15 2009 14:51 ET by Rob Morgan
Someone will have to put together a good freeware model before DVA builds a 787 program.

Rob Morgan

Senior Captain, B777-200
DVA6869
First Officer, B757-200

Joined on January 05 2009

Northeastern United States

7 legs, 16.5 hours
6 legs, 14.9 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on May 18 2009 19:29 ET by Joe Lowles
A good freeware 787 will be a long while yet. I'm hopeing PMDG bring a 787 out after they finished with the 737.

Joe Lowles

First Officer, B757-200
DVA7001
Captain, B767-300

Joined on February 10 2009
50 State Club
Everett 250 Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Quincentenary Club

Renton, WA USA

538 legs, 1,632.0 hours
477 legs, 1,369.8 hours online
489 legs, 1,478.1 hours ACARS
45 legs, 135.9 hours event
Posted onPost created on May 20 2009 10:25 ET by David Schafer
The 787 is available from ABACUS. I've had it for a year or so but I don't fly it

David Schafer

Captain, B767-300
DVA4707
Captain, B747-400
OLP
E-MAIL

Joined on July 13 2007
Online Century Club
Double Century Club

Smethwick, West Midlands UK

228 legs, 732.2 hours
174 legs, 566.8 hours online
213 legs, 687.7 hours ACARS
14 legs, 40.7 hours event
77 legs dispatched, 37.5 hours
Posted onPost created on May 21 2009 14:40 ET by Tom Rickard
stay away from ABACUS as you stay away from the boogeyman !!!!!

Tom Rickard

Captain, B747-400
DVA6936
First Officer, B777-200

Joined on January 22 2009
Online Century Club
50 State Club
Double Century Club

Western United States

217 legs, 732.8 hours
153 legs, 560.3 hours online
200 legs, 678.8 hours ACARS
1 legs, 3.4 hours event
Posted onPost created on May 21 2009 14:53 ET by Tyson Dohrer
Where cani get a good md11 with delta livery to use?

Tyson Dohrer

First Officer, B777-200
DVA5225
Captain, CRJ-200

Joined on November 20 2007

"Nothing said I had to crash"
Florence, CO USA

99 legs, 199.9 hours
16 legs, 43.6 hours online
7 legs, 12.1 hours ACARS
3 legs, 7.3 hours event
Posted onPost created on May 21 2009 15:02 ET by Danny Wood
Um a little off topic but http://www.precisionmanuals.com/priv/pages/prod/fsx/md11.html It is worth every penny.

Link for you FS9er's like me: http://www.precisionmanuals.com/priv/pages/prod/fs9/md11_fs9.html



DVA7398
Captain, B767-300

Joined on June 04 2009

Owasso, OK USA

52 legs, 100.4 hours
52 legs, 100.4 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on June 11 2009 12:12 ET by Stephen Bielick
if pmdg made the 787 i would definitly buy it i will not buy it from abacus who has never impressed me

Stephen Bielick

Captain, B767-300
DVA1038
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL

Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club

"Celer, Silens, Mortalis"
Summerville, SC USA

169 legs, 1,008.2 hours
56 legs, 288.5 hours online
25 legs, 221.2 hours ACARS
1 legs, 5.0 hours event
Posted onPost created on June 11 2009 15:12 ET by Kevin Cornish
No clue if DVA is going to develop a 787 program, but RW Delta certainly is. I work at Global Aeronautica in Charleston where the Forward section and mid body are being built. Delta has pushed back their order in the hope of getting later aircraft that are more in line with Boeing's original weight estimate instead of the early aircraft which are currently severly overweight. As of now, A/C num 7 is under construction and is closer to the weight goal but there is still a ways to go to get it where Boeing wants it. As of now, scuttlebutt around the plant has it that Delta is aiming to get a/c produced later than airframe num 20, which acording to Boeing will be in line with the original ZFW number.

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800
DVA3721
Captain, B777-200

Joined on November 14 2006
Everett Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Triple Century Club

Kent, WA

342 legs, 935.3 hours
36 legs, 66.4 hours online
225 legs, 647.5 hours ACARS
4 legs, 9.9 hours event
Posted onPost created on June 11 2009 22:32 ET by Ian Phillips
I know for a fact that POSKY is developing a 787. They always create quality freeware. Don't know when it will be released, but they are waiting for flight data to do a lot of it. The thread is located here:
http://forum.projectopensky.com/index.php?showtopic=34107

Ian Phillips

Captain, B777-200
DVA6687
Captain, B757-200

Joined on November 27 2008

CO USA

70 legs, 220.2 hours
26 legs, 61.9 hours online
69 legs, 218.7 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on June 20 2009 20:07 ET by Zack Wentz
If the 787 is brought to DVA and is in its own program, what stage would it probably be at? Because I'm a part of the 738 program and I'd like to transfer directly to it if it's availible.

Zack Wentz

Captain, B757-200
DVA1038
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL

Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club

"Celer, Silens, Mortalis"
Summerville, SC USA

169 legs, 1,008.2 hours
56 legs, 288.5 hours online
25 legs, 221.2 hours ACARS
1 legs, 5.0 hours event
Posted onPost created on June 20 2009 20:26 ET by Kevin Cornish
I'd guess, and that's all this is, that it would be stage 3 as it is designed primarily to replace the 767 though it could also go stage 4 as it has the range of the 777.

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800
DVA4215
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on March 12 2007
Everett 250 Club
Six Century Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Pleasant Grove, UT USA

636 legs, 1,647.2 hours
410 legs, 746.5 hours online
589 legs, 1,563.2 hours ACARS
7 legs, 10.3 hours event
Posted onPost created on June 20 2009 21:34 ET by Kyle Hatch
News update on the 787! "June 30th date remains Boeing's scheduled target for 787 first flight." according to FlightBlogger. Well if its not news for you guys, it is for me! I'm excited! Any one know if it will be broadcast online or anywhere?


DVA1038
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL

Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club

"Celer, Silens, Mortalis"
Summerville, SC USA

169 legs, 1,008.2 hours
56 legs, 288.5 hours online
25 legs, 221.2 hours ACARS
1 legs, 5.0 hours event
Posted onPost created on June 20 2009 21:45 ET by Kevin Cornish
You might see it on boeing.com

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800
DVA6959
Captain, B767-300

Joined on February 02 2009

Western United States

94 legs, 290.4 hours
89 legs, 281.7 hours online
89 legs, 274.5 hours ACARS
6 legs, 12.6 hours event
Posted onPost created on June 21 2009 02:59 ET by Matt Wang
yes, abacus software is real bad. stay away. they should have a keep out sign in front of their page.

Matt Wang

Captain, B767-300
DVA4890
Captain, B747-400
OLP

Joined on August 22 2007
Million Mile Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Millennium Club

"Jesus is my co-pilot"
McDonough, GA USA

1,022 legs, 3,005.6 hours
330 legs, 1,101.7 hours online
948 legs, 2,807.1 hours ACARS
59 legs, 156.7 hours event
Posted onPost created on June 21 2009 10:10 ET by Mark Fetters
Tyson getting back to your question it should not be WILL but WHEN will it happen. Yes it will happen but not sure when


DVA1044
Senior Captain, B767-300

Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club

"Fly Delta Jets"
Roswell, NM USA

127 legs, 388.8 hours
62 legs, 199.3 hours online
2 legs, 5.2 hours event
Posted onPost created on June 21 2009 11:39 ET by Lloyd Arms
According to Boeings website the first scheduled flight is June 28th. Which also happens to be my birthday:)


DVA6524
Captain, CRJ-200

Joined on October 14 2008

"Fail to Plan, Plan to Fail"
Northeastern United States

16 legs, 10.2 hours
Posted onPost created on June 22 2009 13:39 ET by David Baker
I wish the 787 was for FSX, the real aircraft has HUD display and a lot of other cool stuff. Anyone know how it is on FS04?

David Baker

Captain, CRJ-200
DVA6776
Captain, B757-200
OLP

Joined on December 22 2008
Century Club
Online Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"Atlanta, here I come"
Indianapolis, IN USA

169 legs, 338.2 hours
159 legs, 322.5 hours online
161 legs, 323.7 hours ACARS
31 legs, 65.1 hours event
Posted onPost created on June 25 2009 21:47 ET by Ruben Schuckit
I will be a LONG time. Right now, they are having trouble with the wings staying attached. Great design for the winglets, though.

Also, they still haven't fixed the toxic gases emitting when the plane gets on fire. G'luck boeing. You've made so many great planes... sometimes you just need to stick with what works best.

Ruben Schuckit

Captain, B757-200
DVA1038
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL

Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club

"Celer, Silens, Mortalis"
Summerville, SC USA

169 legs, 1,008.2 hours
56 legs, 288.5 hours online
25 legs, 221.2 hours ACARS
1 legs, 5.0 hours event
Posted onPost created on June 26 2009 20:52 ET by Kevin Cornish
Ruben, I work w/ Boeing on the 787. There are no problems with the wings staying attatched to the airframe! Boeing simply realized, as is common with ALL new aircraft, that a certain section of the airframe needed to be reinforced. It just so happened that in this case, the wing box needed to be strengthened. The aircraft is fully capable of flying as is right now. The problem Boeing is facing is that any flight testing done now will not do squat toward earning the airworthiness certificate due to the fact that in its current configuration, it does NOT represent the production ac. The changes needed are very small and will be done while the aircraft sits on the flight line. It will not even need to be towed back into the hanger for the repairs. And as for the airframe emitting toxic fumes if it catches fire, all aircraft do when they burn. Its all the plastic, foam, ruber and carpet in them. And one last point, if everyone just "sticks with what works best" no progress would ever be made. 60 years ago, radial engines, propellers and tail draging unpresurized aircraft worked best. Composite aircraft are the future, and the future is now.

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800
DVA6776
Captain, B757-200
OLP

Joined on December 22 2008
Century Club
Online Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"Atlanta, here I come"
Indianapolis, IN USA

169 legs, 338.2 hours
159 legs, 322.5 hours online
161 legs, 323.7 hours ACARS
31 legs, 65.1 hours event
Posted onPost created on June 29 2009 11:02 ET by Ruben Schuckit
I apologize. The media may have made things a bit too much... media like. I guess I fell for it. Anyway, I didn't mean that we should go back to your first plane. The one that only had an artificial horizon and RPM. lol Great luck. Boeing makes great planes.

Ruben Schuckit

Captain, B757-200
DVA1038
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL

Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club

"Celer, Silens, Mortalis"
Summerville, SC USA

169 legs, 1,008.2 hours
56 legs, 288.5 hours online
25 legs, 221.2 hours ACARS
1 legs, 5.0 hours event
Posted onPost created on June 29 2009 17:32 ET by Kevin Cornish
No problem Ruben. Thats the prob w/ the media, they only get a part of the story and act like they know it all.

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800
DVA3196
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP, COMM

Joined on June 03 2006
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club

"pitchpowertrim.com"
Anderson, MO

619 legs, 1,093.4 hours
292 legs, 503.1 hours online
580 legs, 1,026.5 hours ACARS
89 legs, 191.0 hours event
236 legs dispatched, 110.1 hours
Posted onPost created on June 29 2009 17:55 ET by Michael Brown
Yes, I think the 787 will happen.

I'd rather see several delays than Boeing put into production an aircraft that isn't ready.



DVA1038
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL

Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club

"Celer, Silens, Mortalis"
Summerville, SC USA

169 legs, 1,008.2 hours
56 legs, 288.5 hours online
25 legs, 221.2 hours ACARS
1 legs, 5.0 hours event
Posted onPost created on June 30 2009 13:20 ET by Kevin Cornish
Oh, its happening, its just been pushed back a couple months. Boeing has to make this bird work. They've stacked their future to the 787. If this plane tanks, Boeing will tank with it. They've got too much money invested into it to quit now.

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800
DVA7633
Assistant Chief Pilot, B737-800
OLP
DISPATCHER

Joined on August 07 2009
B757 100 Club
Event Half Century Club
Everett 500 Club
Million Mile Club
Millennium Club
Online Nine Century
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"When the clouds roll in, I roll out."
Minneapolis, MN USA

1,183 legs, 3,139.3 hours
939 legs, 2,593.2 hours online
1,137 legs, 3,016.6 hours ACARS
80 legs, 171.1 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.8 hours
Posted onPost created on October 06 2009 23:27 ET by Luke Hubers
I'm sure it will be the next big thing but it's just a matter or time. Time is key.


DVA3196
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP, COMM

Joined on June 03 2006
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club

"pitchpowertrim.com"
Anderson, MO

619 legs, 1,093.4 hours
292 legs, 503.1 hours online
580 legs, 1,026.5 hours ACARS
89 legs, 191.0 hours event
236 legs dispatched, 110.1 hours
Posted onPost created on October 07 2009 00:06 ET by Michael Brown
old thread .... but go 787!


DVA1038
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL

Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club

"Celer, Silens, Mortalis"
Summerville, SC USA

169 legs, 1,008.2 hours
56 legs, 288.5 hours online
25 legs, 221.2 hours ACARS
1 legs, 5.0 hours event
Posted onPost created on October 07 2009 13:02 ET by Kevin Cornish
Yep, go 787! I need to keep my job! On a side note, ship num 11 just rolled out the door monday and is on its way to Everet for final assembly. We should see first flight maybe by the end of Nov to mid Dec. Can't wait for it to happen!

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800


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