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DVA6455
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on August 24 2008
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Millennium Club
Stage 1 Jet Millennium Club
Pikeville, KY USA
1,021 legs, 1,278.2 hours
644 legs,
800.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 20 2009 14:11 ET by Mel Wilson
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I found a CRJ 900 flight from ATL to NAS and flew it Sunday. However, I could not find a CRJ flight back on any shedule. I, trying t keep it real as possible, like to start from the airport I last landed. My destination does not have to be ATL, of course, but I was surprised at how few flights were in and out of NAS. I'm only rated in the CRJ series so I don't have many choices. What should I do?
Mel WilsonCaptain, CRJ-200
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DVA6455
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on August 24 2008
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Millennium Club
Stage 1 Jet Millennium Club
Pikeville, KY USA
1,021 legs, 1,278.2 hours
644 legs,
800.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 20 2009 15:44 ET by Mel Wilson
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I guess my question is: can I fly the route back using the crj? From my understanding of what I've read in other post, I can as long as the plane can safely make the trip.
Mel WilsonCaptain, CRJ-200
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DVA5046
Captain, DC-8-61
OLP
Joined on July 17 2007
Century Club
"Gears are useful-when you use them."
Markham, ON Canada
191 legs, 466.8 hours
52 legs,
123.4 hours online
163 legs,
390.2 hours ACARS
10 legs,
38.6 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 20 2009 15:53 ET by Bryon Lee
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Afrim
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DVA4860
Captain, DC-8-61
Joined on August 16 2007
Everett 250 Club
50 State Club
Quincentenary Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
Tin Dispatcher
Quad-Jet Quartermaster
Globetrotter
North Port, FL
578 legs, 1,012.6 hours
19 legs,
49.3 hours online
543 legs,
895.5 hours ACARS
8 legs,
36.3 hours event
331 legs dispatched, 278.9
hours
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Posted onPost created on
August 21 2009 18:56 ET by Roberto Legaspi
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Keeping it as real as possible - in the real world alot of times pilots do not fly the same aircraft that they flew to a particular location and end up flying either in the jumpseat or as a passenger on another jet. I don't see the harm in you going to another location but if your hardcore point to point flyer then wait the storm out and enjoy the beach.
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DVA2667
Captain, B757-200
OLP
Joined on November 05 2005
Double Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Everett Century Club
Fayetteville, NC USA
262 legs, 484.7 hours
52 legs,
92.9 hours online
222 legs,
423.0 hours ACARS
1 legs,
1.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 02 2009 06:39 ET by Lance Andrus
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DVA376 Leg 1 NAS to ATL MD88
Didn't see any flights to NAS using the CRJ. Just fly this flight in your CRJ
Lance AndrusCaptain, B757-200
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DVA6455
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on August 24 2008
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Millennium Club
Stage 1 Jet Millennium Club
Pikeville, KY USA
1,021 legs, 1,278.2 hours
644 legs,
800.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 02 2009 22:46 ET by Mel Wilson
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I just flew back in the CRJ. My flight was accepted, of course. I guess I need to check for flights coming back in the future. Most of my flights are busy routes for CRJ's, but sometimes I like to try something different. I really enjoy CRj's--I know I will have to advance someday, but for now, I really love flying the little birds.
Mel WilsonCaptain, CRJ-200
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DVA7673
Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on August 18 2009
""That Others May Live""
Southeastern United States
70 legs, 98.7 hours
31 legs,
43.0 hours online
67 legs,
95.9 hours ACARS
1 legs,
2.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 23 2009 08:43 ET by Erik Baaske
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Gentlemen, I posed a similar question to my ACP/CP's shortly after I joined DVA. I just can't seem to comprehend, how if you fly a certain type of aircraft to an airport, there sometimes seems to be no flights departing for that same type? Logic (in my mind anyway) would dictate that if there are flights into an airport, there must eventually be flights out of that airport. The only place that I am aware of this being the case (one-way trips for aircraft) is Davis-Monthan AFB outside of Tucson, AZ. I know that our flight-scheduler is automated, but computers are only as good as the data they are given by humans. Any insight will be appreciated.
Erik BaaskeCaptain, MD-11
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DVA6586
First Officer, B767-300
Joined on November 03 2008
Century Club
"I am serious & don't call me Shirley"
Southeastern United States
165 legs, 390.6 hours
160 legs,
379.2 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 23 2009 10:13 ET by Mike Holmes
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Don't forget the aircraft that disappear in the Bermuda Triangle. Flights out of the Caribbean take off all the time and never reach their destinations, so that is probably the cause of the discrepancy. 
(And yes, I'm joking)
Mike HolmesFirst Officer, B767-300
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DVA1882
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on September 09 2004
Online Quadruple Century Club
Long Beach 500 Club
50 State Club
Iron Dispatcher
Millennium Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"MD-11 rules!!!!"
San Luis PotosÃ, Mexico
1,081 legs, 1,637.0 hours
426 legs,
601.5 hours online
787 legs,
1,085.2 hours ACARS
12 legs,
28.5 hours event
558 legs dispatched, 225.6
hours
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Posted onPost created on
September 23 2009 10:58 ET by Horacio Meza-Velarde
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Every flight does not have to have a return flight right away. Some times you could find flights that have 3 or 4 legs and do not include a particular leg back. That could be the reason.
Example: flight X could be Atlanta-Charlotte-Raleigh, and the flight x back is only Raleigh-Atlanta, with no stop in Charlotte
Salud!
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DVA5683
Senior Captain, CRJ-200
OLP, PPL
Joined on March 14 2008
Double Century Club
"Every Drop of Water Shapes The Stone"
Lake Mary, FL USA
286 legs, 837.5 hours
56 legs,
158.0 hours online
271 legs,
810.5 hours ACARS
5 legs,
19.9 hours event
6,465 legs, 17,636.8 hours total
2 legs dispatched, 18.1
hours
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Posted onPost created on
September 23 2009 11:00 ET by Brian Hankey
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Erik - Some factors we need to consider are time of year... the same flight might have different equipment at different times of the year. For example, I live in Orlando and there have been RW times where when I fly to DFW on AA, it might be stated that the equipment is an MD-80 but then I show up and they've taken that MD-80 and replaced it with a 757 or as happened a couple of times, got a 1st Class upgrade at no charge on a 767-300 
Another factor is that that CRJ plane might not be headed back to ATL instead it could be say headed to MIA (hypothetical situation) but as was pointed out, the NAS to ATL was an MD88.
Make sense?
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DVA3809
First Officer, B767-300
OLP
Joined on December 12 2006
Online Century Club
Triple Century Club
East Petersburg, PA USA
329 legs, 829.1 hours
124 legs,
239.2 hours online
291 legs,
767.0 hours ACARS
25 legs,
52.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 23 2009 12:42 ET by Garen Evans
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They actually they do sometimes strand CRJs at airports - the reason for this is that according to the Accumulation Principle, at a certain critical mass they magically meld together to form a brand new Airbus A380. I understand that it is quite a sight to behold!
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DVA7673
Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on August 18 2009
""That Others May Live""
Southeastern United States
70 legs, 98.7 hours
31 legs,
43.0 hours online
67 legs,
95.9 hours ACARS
1 legs,
2.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 23 2009 18:52 ET by Erik Baaske
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Brian, I understand that aircraft will very often be re-tasked for any number of reasons (passenger loads, equipment failures, etc.), but what I am getting at is that you can't have ten MD-88's flying into an airport (from any location) and never have a single one leave, regardless of the destination. I have gone into our Flight Planner, to create a series of flights trying to get as many different cities as possible, and on more than one occasion, come across a dead-end, where an "88" flies in, but never has a departing flight. At some point, that aircraft will have to leave. Hypothetically, for instance, in my flight plan development, I start out in my home city of SAV, fly to ATL, look for an "88" departure to anywhere, let's say JFK. From JFK, I would go to IAD, from IAD to BOS, from BOS to CLE. Then I would get stuck, because I couldn't find a departing flight for an "88". I promise you, I have been to CLE, it's not somewhere you want to be stuck in...(especially if some of my ex-girlfriends found out I was there.) When I set out to "plan" flights, I do not select a destination, I'll go whereever it sends me.
Erik BaaskeCaptain, MD-11
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DVA7673
Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on August 18 2009
""That Others May Live""
Southeastern United States
70 legs, 98.7 hours
31 legs,
43.0 hours online
67 legs,
95.9 hours ACARS
1 legs,
2.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 23 2009 19:05 ET by Erik Baaske
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Horacio, I know that flights don't always go back the way that they came; no problem there.
And Mike, I did take into account Mel's unfortunate location...
And Garen, Yes, I've heard that can be quite a sight, let me know when the next one is getting ready to take place; I'd love to watch.
Thanks for all the responses.
Erik BaaskeCaptain, MD-11
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DVA5683
Senior Captain, CRJ-200
OLP, PPL
Joined on March 14 2008
Double Century Club
"Every Drop of Water Shapes The Stone"
Lake Mary, FL USA
286 legs, 837.5 hours
56 legs,
158.0 hours online
271 legs,
810.5 hours ACARS
5 legs,
19.9 hours event
6,465 legs, 17,636.8 hours total
2 legs dispatched, 18.1
hours
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Posted onPost created on
September 23 2009 19:24 ET by Brian Hankey
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Erik - Okay I see what you're saying... and just for my own edification... are you doing just DVA flights or codeshares as well Reason I say that is because we (DVA) used to codeshare the 757-200 from JFK to BRS (Bristol, UK) but we didn't codeshare the flight back - hence a potential dead-end there 
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DVA7702
Captain, B747-400
Joined on August 25 2009
"If it ain't Boeing, I'm not going!"
Scandinavia
75 legs, 174.7 hours
41 legs,
104.7 hours online
61 legs,
131.4 hours ACARS
7 legs,
19.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 23 2009 20:18 ET by Tommy Hansen
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The Bahamas isn't the worst place to be stuck,now is it? 
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DVA7673
Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on August 18 2009
""That Others May Live""
Southeastern United States
70 legs, 98.7 hours
31 legs,
43.0 hours online
67 legs,
95.9 hours ACARS
1 legs,
2.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 23 2009 21:11 ET by Erik Baaske
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Brian, Nope, I am not doing codeshare, strictly DVA flights
Erik BaaskeCaptain, MD-11
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DVA4180
Senior Captain, MD-88
OLP
Joined on March 08 2007
Online Century Club
Long Beach Century Club
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"Have A&P - Will work for peanuts!"
Van Buren Charter Township, MI
351 legs, 783.1 hours
193 legs,
388.4 hours online
340 legs,
759.3 hours ACARS
20 legs,
41.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 24 2009 04:56 ET by Joseph Schwab
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Erik, I emailed you about this.. did you not understand? I tried to make it simple, however, It seems I didnt.
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DVA7673
Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on August 18 2009
""That Others May Live""
Southeastern United States
70 legs, 98.7 hours
31 legs,
43.0 hours online
67 legs,
95.9 hours ACARS
1 legs,
2.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 24 2009 14:33 ET by Erik Baaske
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Joe, I did get your e-mail, but it still doesn't seem to make sense that a type of aircraft (MD-88) can fly into an airport, but there are no flights for that type leaving (destination irrelevant). Brian did explain to me last night once one of us uses a flight number for a leg for a type of aircraft, that number may not be available for use again for another month. I think this may require some on-line verbal communication rather than these posted messages.
Erik BaaskeCaptain, MD-11
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DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett 1500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Four Million Mile Club
"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA
2,326 legs, 9,362.8 hours
240 legs,
553.9 hours online
1,984 legs,
8,155.9 hours ACARS
75 legs,
196.3 hours event
2,362 legs, 9,497.7 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
September 24 2009 14:41 ET by Luke Kolin
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>> Brian did explain to me last night once one of us uses a flight number for a leg for a type of aircraft, that number may not be available for use again for another month
??
Cheers!
Luke KolinSenior Captain, MD-11
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DVA4180
Senior Captain, MD-88
OLP
Joined on March 08 2007
Online Century Club
Long Beach Century Club
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"Have A&P - Will work for peanuts!"
Van Buren Charter Township, MI
351 legs, 783.1 hours
193 legs,
388.4 hours online
340 legs,
759.3 hours ACARS
20 legs,
41.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 24 2009 20:48 ET by Joseph Schwab
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No.. The flight numbers are usually used for a while.. they usually only change at the time the schedule changes... some seasonal routes use a flight number and it goes away, and then comes back when the route is flown again. Anyway, I guarantee you that if an MD-88 flys into an airport, it is flying back out. May not be the same day, flight number, or destination.. but it doesnt just disappear..
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DVA5683
Senior Captain, CRJ-200
OLP, PPL
Joined on March 14 2008
Double Century Club
"Every Drop of Water Shapes The Stone"
Lake Mary, FL USA
286 legs, 837.5 hours
56 legs,
158.0 hours online
271 legs,
810.5 hours ACARS
5 legs,
19.9 hours event
6,465 legs, 17,636.8 hours total
2 legs dispatched, 18.1
hours
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Posted onPost created on
September 24 2009 21:38 ET by Brian Hankey
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Erik and I chatted for a while last night.... and I indicated that the flight numbers might change when the schedule changed... Sorry if it came across wrong but were chatting late and I might have transposed words... I didn't mean that once the flight was used, the number disappeared out of the database... When we looked last night at his ATL to NAS, my suspicion was that he flew down on say the Winter schedule but when he went to fly back, we were on Summer schedule (hypothetically speaking) because at the moment all flights to/from ATL and Nassau are MD-88's.
Hope that clears my statement up for all
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DVA7673
Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on August 18 2009
""That Others May Live""
Southeastern United States
70 legs, 98.7 hours
31 legs,
43.0 hours online
67 legs,
95.9 hours ACARS
1 legs,
2.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 26 2009 01:19 ET by Erik Baaske
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Uh...guys? If you look back at the beginning of this thread, Mel is the one who was stuck in the Bahamas, not me. I've never yet flown to NAS. I was just chiming in on a similar situation I ran into somewhere else. I think I'll just leave it alone now, and slip quitely out the back, now that I've stirrede the proverbial pot. Exit- Stage right.
Erik BaaskeCaptain, MD-11
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DVA7147
Captain, MD-88
Joined on March 26 2009
50 State Club
Million Mile Club
Online Seven Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Everett 500 Club
B757 100 Club
Eight Century Club
"I had a Muffin for breakfast bud."
Salt Lake City, UT
828 legs, 2,660.3 hours
743 legs,
2,411.2 hours online
808 legs,
2,579.8 hours ACARS
9 legs,
26.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 24 2009 23:53 ET by Dillon Powers
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oh dear stuck in the bahamas what ever will we do lol jk
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