Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - delta MD-11 in IRAN ( say wat )

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | DVA2006 | delta MD-11 in IRAN ( say wat )

DVA6693
First Officer, B777-200

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73 legs, 220.6 hours online
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1 legs, 1.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 17:17 ET by Danyal Eliadorani

hi guys recently came back from iran went to the plane junkyard there while i was there i saw this plane its a delta tristare wandered how it got there any explanation ????

Danyal Eliadorani

First Officer, B777-200

DVA4346
Senior Captain, B777-200
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1,187 legs, 6,710.7 hours ACARS
50 legs, 141.3 hours event
152 legs dispatched, 147.8 hours

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 17:20 ET by Luis Gambetta

Wow,actually its an L1011 but haven't seen those in forever

Luis Gambetta

Senior Captain, B777-200

DVA1038
Captain, B737-800
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Joined on January 12 2003
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"Celer, Silens, Mortalis"
Summerville, SC USA

169 legs, 1,008.2 hours
56 legs, 288.5 hours online
25 legs, 221.2 hours ACARS
1 legs, 5.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 17:46 ET by Kevin Cornish

Last L1011 I saw was in the process of being choped up for scrap. Wow, wonder what they're doing with it.

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800

DVA1427
Senior Captain, MD-11
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384 legs, 1,530.5 hours ACARS
38 legs, 82.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 18:52 ET by Lewis Gregory

Wow, that's a heck of a find. I'll bet that plane's got quite a story of how it got there.

Lewis Gregory

Senior Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 19:03 ET by Danyal Eliadorani

ya i bet it has a long history the dude over there didnt know were it came from

Danyal Eliadorani

First Officer, B777-200

DVA7421
First Officer, A330-300
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Joined on June 11 2009

"Shoot For The Stars And Beyond"
Johns Creek, GA USA

94 legs, 331.9 hours
64 legs, 289.4 hours online
86 legs, 311.5 hours ACARS
2 legs, 5.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 19:09 ET by Brandon Daly

I am speechless

Brandon Daly (DVA7421)

DVA1633
Senior Captain, L-1011-100

Joined on April 17 2004
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Den Haag, Zuid-Holland NL

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Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 19:17 ET by Sander Jordans

It wouldn't suprise me if this plane has been used for Hadj flights, or was intended for those flights, and has simply been stored/abandoned at Teheran.
She's one of the few Delta Tristar 250 converts.

nice find!

Sander Jordans (DVA1633)

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 20:04 ET by Danyal Eliadorani

but the iran cant but AC manufactured in USA so thats y i want to know how they got the delta tristare .
http://iranairvirtual.altervista.org/IRVA/index.php/Frontpage

Danyal Eliadorani

First Officer, B777-200

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 20:50 ET by Kevin Cornish

Danyal, did you hapen to get the a/c reg. num? Had it been reregistered in Iran or did it still cary an N num? Or even better, the ser. num on the a/c? Thanks, Kevin

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 21:15 ET by Danyal Eliadorani

ya i did get it it was this i think N753DA .

Danyal Eliadorani

First Officer, B777-200

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 21:21 ET by Kevin Cornish

K, thanks. Let me see if I can get some info on this bird.

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 21:25 ET by Kevin Cornish

Ok, this L1011 is registered to Wells Fargo Bank Northwest NA Trustee. The FAA is showing the reg. as valid. So that a/c is still registered in the US to an American company. It was registered in 2004 and apparently still has a current air worthiness certificate. It is a L1011-385-3, ser. num 193W-1189. So how'd it get to Iran?

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 21:25 ET by Danyal Eliadorani

oh wait i found out
this bird is a converted tri star to a 250 the colour schemes are really close to DAL so thats y
Look at pic
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-Universal/Lockheed-L-1011-385-1-15-TriStar/1333017/&sid=5010b4815e5ac017222636d05c4952dd
i hadn't paid close attention to it ( darn it ) sorry for the confusion

Danyal Eliadorani

First Officer, B777-200

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 21:32 ET by Kevin Cornish

Ok, so why does it still cary an N-Num then? The a/c was apparently a former Delta a/c, so how'd it get to Tehran and why is it stored there?

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 21:33 ET by Danyal Eliadorani

beates me its called universal air it was a russian iranian airline but it has a N number mysterious can u find more info and look at the 737-200 pic i took

Danyal Eliadorani

First Officer, B777-200

DVA7209
Captain, B767-300

Joined on April 11 2009

Seattle, WA USA

36 legs, 120.9 hours
1 legs, 1.8 hours online
34 legs, 113.7 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 21:36 ET by John Byre

Sorry for the sort of OT question, but at A/C junkyards, can you take/buy stuff from there? In the picture everything looks pretty easily accessed. I'm sort of a handyman, and I love modding a/c parts into household clocks or displays.

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 21:39 ET by Danyal Eliadorani

they dont let the public into the cockpits but im the VP of iran air virtual ( please dont take this topic down for saying that ) and so they let me in the cockpits and stuff they let me into the park for free also cuz im the VP were the only VA representing iran air . ( were endorsed by the RW Iran air )

Danyal Eliadorani

First Officer, B777-200

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 21:46 ET by Kevin Cornish

See thats what I don't get. According to the FAA, this a/c is owned by Wells Fargo and is currently registered in the US. Now, I'm just wondering how it came into the possesion of Universal Air. I mean, doesn't the US have a prety strict export control policy in place with regard to Iran? I thought that modern a/c, and yes I include the L1011 in that, were not allowed to be sold to Iranian companies? Maybe that's why it's still registered in the US. To try and circumvent those laws. Could that be it maybe?

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 21:49 ET by Danyal Eliadorani

i really dont know tonite when im sleeping i may have a dream of how it got there LOL just kidding . but i would really want to know how cuz american registered AC arent allowed under FL240 in iran let alown getting bought ( except for emergency )

Danyal Eliadorani

First Officer, B777-200

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 21:52 ET by Kevin Cornish

Hm. I have the feeling that we won't find out anytime soon. Anyone been able to get some additional info on the a/c based on c/n?

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 21:54 ET by Danyal Eliadorani

this is one of those mysteries

Danyal Eliadorani

First Officer, B777-200

DVA4180
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193 legs, 388.4 hours online
340 legs, 759.3 hours ACARS
20 legs, 41.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 27 2009 22:40 ET by Joseph Schwab

I think you missed it.. this L1011 and its sister, both parked there, are NOT us registered, AND they are ex Air Universal aircraft. None of the A/C there have a N-number, and it is NOT a Delta Bird or EX Delta bird.

Look at this: Almost the same shot!

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-Universal/Lockheed-L-1011-385-1-15-TriStar/1559708/M/

Joseph Schwab (DVA4180)

DVA7209
Captain, B767-300

Joined on April 11 2009

Seattle, WA USA

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34 legs, 113.7 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on August 28 2009 01:59 ET by John Byre

Wow that's really cool that you can do all of that Danyal Eliadorani. You got some pretty cool pics. My favorite is the 747-200 one. The classic 747s are soooooo sexy.

Posted onPost created on August 28 2009 10:47 ET by Lewis Gregory

Doing some digging on a.net, apparently there are TWO Air Universal L-1011s parked there, or were at one point. The fact that the one in Danyal's picture is sitting next to that chopped 727 (*weep*) indicates that it's probably 9L-LDE as Joe posted above. That's ex-N740DA, and is indeed one of Delta's Tristar 250 conversions. Comments on a.net pictures indicate that she was delivered to Delta in 1983 and flew with her widgets for eighteen years, until 8 July 2001.

The other plane that is or was there as of July is 9L-LDC:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-Universal/Lockheed-L-1011-385-1-15-TriStar/1560269/L/&sid=631a7ad9552cefe6a75ad138f8c17891

That's a Tristar 100, and the interesting thing about it is that even though it has the same Delta widget-era cheatline as 9L-LDE, it never flew for Delta. It's an ex-TWA bird (with tape engine gauges instead of dials), delivered 1982 as N7035T, and also flew for Air Atlanta Icelandic (twice) and Caledonian before winding up with Air Universal. You can tell it apart from the one in Danyal's picture because the radome is white instead of the black you'd expect on a Delta jet.

Lewis Gregory

Senior Captain, MD-11

DVA6482
First Officer, B767-300

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116 legs, 299.5 hours ACARS
811 legs, 2,468.5 hours total

Posted onPost created on August 28 2009 17:46 ET by Robert Taylor

OK....

9L-LDE was re registered to EP-LDE in 2006 for Universal Airlines, EP-LDE Reg was cancelled on 30-12-2007 as stored at THR
9L-LDC Reg was cancelled the same date 301-12-2007, so both aircraft are unregistered at the moment but still carring the previous reg's, Both aircraft are stored @ THR

Hope this helps

Robert Taylor

First Officer, B767-300

DVA3943
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30 legs, 54.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on August 28 2009 22:51 ET by Trevor Woolley

Wow, fantastic Investigative work.. That is really interesting that the sister ship was never registered to delta.. IT LOOKS ALMOST IDENTICAL!!

Trevor Woolley (DVA3943)

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Posted onPost created on January 30 2010 01:19 ET by Phillip Brown

How much you rekon a old plane would cost in a boneyard (not inculding repair costs etc) confused

Also how hard you think it would be to wire one of those old cockpits so that all the buttons etc work on FS?

Phillip Brown (DVA7964)

DVA8221
Captain, B757-200
OLP

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Ann Arbor, MI

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Posted onPost created on January 30 2010 08:03 ET by Sandro Salgueiro

Awesome investigation as said, guys. May that L1011 rest in peace smile

Sandro Salgueiro

Captain, B757-200

Posted onPost created on January 30 2010 08:36 ET by Kevin Cornish

Holy thread resurection!

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800

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Posted onPost created on January 30 2010 09:29 ET by Andrew Kaufmann

lol I was just thinking the same thing!

Andrew Kaufmann (DVA3931)

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Posted onPost created on January 30 2010 14:27 ET by Sandro Salgueiro

Haha, I hadn't noticed that

Sandro Salgueiro

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Posted onPost created on February 02 2010 19:15 ET by Alan Cluff

LOL... you guys crack me up.

Alan Cluff

Senior Captain, B737-800

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