Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - AF A380 Codesharing Question

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | AF A380 Codesharing Question

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Posted onPost created on October 27 2009 12:13 ET by Dustin Thames

I posed this question in a thread in another section, but the thread was deleted for other reasons. Once Air France begins flying the A380 on TATL routes, would this qualify as codesharing per the TATL JV between DL and AF/KLM? If so, would that open up an option for DVA pilots to obtain an additional rating on the Big Bus?

Dustin Thames

First Officer, B777-200

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Senior Captain, MD-11

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Posted onPost created on October 27 2009 23:29 ET by Jon Farabee

My guess would be that if that flight is considered a codeshare, then it will be in the schedule. The rating I assume would be paired in with the stage 4 programs, most likely partnered with either the Triple 7 or 747. Once that aircraft begins revenue service with AF/KLM, I imagine a rating would soon follow, pending it is considered a codeshare. If your interested in flying the big bus, I know that our sister airline (AFVA) has all of the AF/KLM flights in addition to their codeshares in their schedule, send an email to either Terry or Luke, they should be able to give you the info regarding a potential transfer, I am not sure if there is a "flight leg" requirement or not to transfer, again that is something Terry and/or Luke could clear up for you.

Jon Farabee

Senior Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on October 28 2009 08:05 ET by Dustin Thames

I'm not looking to transfer to AFVA, I just thought it would be interesting fly the A380 and if it was possible that could be done through DVA as an AFVA codeshare. Thanks for the response

Dustin Thames

First Officer, B777-200

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Posted onPost created on October 30 2009 16:23 ET by Daniel Betts

I'm about 95% sure it will be a codeshare due to the joint venture agreement we have with AF-KL.

Update: I just confirmed it. DL8581 will be on the Airbus A380

Daniel Betts

Captain, B767-300

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Posted onPost created on October 31 2009 19:43 ET by Luke Hubers

Airfrance received their first A380 just yesterday (30 of October). They're first flight with the A380 is suppose to be from CDG-JFK on Nov 20 2009. Will we be able to fly this flight or not? Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France#Fleet

Luke Hubers (DVA7633)

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Posted onPost created on October 31 2009 21:55 ET by Kevin Cornish

Luke if AF and DAL have that flight as a code share, sure. I'm pretty sure they are, but I'd check it a cpl days before the flight to make sure it is a codeshare.

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on October 31 2009 22:25 ET by Luke Hubers

How would I check to see if it's a codeshare flight. Would I just check through the "Browse Scedule" link in the pilot center?

Luke Hubers (DVA7633)

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Posted onPost created on October 31 2009 22:29 ET by Luke Kolin

As an FYI, I am unsure if the necessary infrastructure is going to be in place in time for AF's first operation of the A380. Based on what we all saw with the 747 and A320 programs, there's a fair bit of work that needs to happen behind the scenes before a new aircraft rating becomes available, and I know that the Ryans and Steve on the AF side want to ensure that the A380 rollout is done right. I'm confident that the DVA staff wants to see it done right too.

I don't want to say a definitive no, but at the same time I wouldn't get my hopes up about getting an A380 rating by the end of November. Let's see what happens.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on November 02 2009 08:40 ET by Daniel Betts

Delta's Codeshare on A380

http://www.delta.com/booking/flightDetails.do?airCd=DL&airName=Delta&fltNum=8581&dDay=23&dMon=Nov&dCityCode=JFK&aCityCode=CDG&onTimePercent=NULL

http://www.delta.com/booking/flightDetails.do?airCd=DL&airName=Delta&fltNum=8550&dDay=27&dMon=Nov&dCityCode=CDG&aCityCode=JFK&onTimePercent=NULL

Daniel Betts

Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on November 02 2009 09:15 ET by Dustin Thames

My guess is that it would also require an accurate FS9/FSX A380 model...

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Posted onPost created on November 05 2009 16:30 ET by Jose Trejos

I'm pleased to help with anything regarding the A380.

Jose Trejos (DVA6754)

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Posted onPost created on November 05 2009 19:48 ET by Lloyd Arms

It still looks like a whale

Lloyd Arms (DVA1044)

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Posted onPost created on November 17 2009 20:43 ET by William Brynjolfsson

its always looked like a whale, its big 'n ugly. the 744 looks much better, IMO

William Brynjolfsson

Captain, B777-200

Posted onPost created on November 19 2009 18:12 ET by Luke Hubers

I beleive tomorow is the first Air France flight with the A380 from Paris to JFK.

Luke Hubers (DVA7633)

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Posted onPost created on November 20 2009 12:56 ET by Nicolas Ammann

It departed today noon european time in Paris!

Nicolas Ammann

First Officer, MD-11

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