Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - Heads Up to DVA Management

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | Heads Up to DVA Management

DVA5066
Captain, B757-200

Joined on October 05 2007
Online Century Club
B757 100 Club
Globetrotter
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
Flying Colonel
Two Million Mile Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
US Mountaineer Club
US Coastal Club

NY

1,991 legs, 5,286.8 hours
172 legs, 333.7 hours online
1,903 legs, 4,996.5 hours ACARS
81 legs, 148.4 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 21 2009 21:31 ET by Michael Marano

I am not sure if you are familiar with the website www.widgetheads.net. The website was shutdown for a while, after Delta's lawyers ordered the webmaster to remove the DL logo from the website due to copyright laws. Don't want the same thing to happen here.

Michael Marano (DVA5066)

DVA7421
First Officer, A330-300
E-MAIL

Joined on June 11 2009

"Shoot For The Stars And Beyond"
Johns Creek, GA USA

94 legs, 331.9 hours
64 legs, 289.4 hours online
86 legs, 311.5 hours ACARS
2 legs, 5.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 21 2009 21:33 ET by Brandon Daly

Now I'm scared!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brandon Daly (DVA7421)

DVA1763
Senior Captain, B757-200

Joined on June 29 2004
Everett 250 Club
Online Six Century Club
Seven Century Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

Oklahoma City, OK

723 legs, 2,015.0 hours
645 legs, 1,824.0 hours online
585 legs, 1,608.7 hours ACARS
10 legs, 44.8 hours event
740 legs, 2,044.9 hours total

Posted onPost created on November 21 2009 21:34 ET by Steve Pickle

There is no Delta logo on this website.

Steve Pickle (DVA1763)

DVA1679
Senior Captain, A320

Joined on May 16 2004
Triple Century Club
Online Triple Century Club

"flightdeckproductions.com"
Utica, MI USA

322 legs, 620.4 hours
300 legs, 591.4 hours online
115 legs, 194.0 hours ACARS
5 legs, 11.3 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 21 2009 21:38 ET by Larry Foltran

There has been significant effort made to ensure that Delta's trademarked logoform does not appear on this site. Although I'm Terry and Luke can add more specific information, I don't believe there is anything to be concerned about.

Larry Foltran (DVA1679)

DVA3196
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP, COMM

Joined on June 03 2006
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club

"pitchpowertrim.com"
Anderson, MO

619 legs, 1,093.4 hours
292 legs, 503.1 hours online
580 legs, 1,026.5 hours ACARS
89 legs, 191.0 hours event
236 legs dispatched, 110.1 hours

Posted onPost created on November 21 2009 21:51 ET by Michael Brown

"Although I'm Terry and Luke..."

Please explain to me how you are three people at once? eek

LOL ... couldn't help myself. Anyways, I don't think DVA has anything to worry about.

Michael Brown (DVA3196)

Posted onPost created on November 21 2009 22:33 ET by Larry Foltran

LOL!!! I suppose I'm too sleepy to be posting anything right now. I meant to say "Although I'm certain..." Oh well.

Larry Foltran (DVA1679)

DVA2724
Senior Captain, L-1011-100

Joined on December 04 2005
Million Mile Club
Seven Century Club

"Long Live the TRISTAR!!"
Concord, GA USA

714 legs, 3,467.6 hours
43 legs, 80.2 hours online
466 legs, 2,709.6 hours ACARS
5 legs dispatched, 26.7 hours

Posted onPost created on November 21 2009 22:42 ET by Ken Nesbitt

We are aware of some people that Delta has gone after. We have gone to great lengths to make sure that we are legal and that is why we are very strict on copyright policy here. We have never been contacted by big Delta and we go to a lot of trouble to make sure that we never will. CHEERS

Ken Nesbitt

Senior Captain, L-1011-100

DVA1044
Senior Captain, B767-300

Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club

"Fly Delta Jets"
Roswell, NM USA

127 legs, 388.8 hours
62 legs, 199.3 hours online
2 legs, 5.2 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 21 2009 23:03 ET by Lloyd Arms

After all these years and the way we've all conducted ourselves as well as having a excellent staff of all ages Delta knows we do not abuse or take for granted what we've done. I'll bet there are alot of "Real World" Delta Staff and pilots" who have checked us out. If anything else we give Delta Airlines a reason to be happy. We offer training via our acadamy and pilots must earn the upper stages with strict rules and we allow a voice here on the cooler to ask questions relating to our hobby. Delta should be proud and I do believe they have been approached by our staff in the past. I might be mistaken on that. Still with all that said our staff takes very careful steps to make certain we do not use anything copyrighted by Delta.

Lloyd Arms (DVA1044)

DVA1038
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL

Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club

"Celer, Silens, Mortalis"
Summerville, SC USA

169 legs, 1,008.2 hours
56 legs, 288.5 hours online
25 legs, 221.2 hours ACARS
1 legs, 5.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 22 2009 00:31 ET by Kevin Cornish

From what my cousin (a RW Delta pilot) has told me, Delta is actually very happy w/ us. Apparently, we give Delta a good name and get their brand out to people who otherwise might never check them out. Where he got his info from I don't know, but at least it sounds good coming from a RW Delta employee.

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on November 22 2009 10:19 ET by Larry Foltran

I have also been told by two different DAL employees that Delta is quite familiar with DVA. Although they weren't able to say exactly how DAL feels about DVA, the fact that we haven't received a C & D letter shows that at least they find no fault with DVA. Let's make sure to keep it that way. The manner in which all DVA members conduct themselves here, on other forums, and on VATSIM probably has more importance than you know.

Larry Foltran (DVA1679)

DVA6586
First Officer, B767-300

Joined on November 03 2008
Century Club

"I am serious & don't call me Shirley"
Southeastern United States

165 legs, 390.6 hours
160 legs, 379.2 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on November 23 2009 08:26 ET by Mike Holmes

Well, my own two cents says that at least part of the reason that the real-world Delta tolerates - or perhaps even likes - our existence is the professionalism and respect with which DeltaVA is operated. This is the only VA I have been a member of but the scuttlebutt I have heard is that many other VA's are nowhere near as professional and courteous as we. I have heard tales of vindictive, juvenile personal attacks among members on bulletin boards and chat and stories of childish name calling and personal attacks that are far too common on the Internet. While I have no personal experience, as I already mentioned, I have no reason to doubt that these stories are true, given the nature of what boards are like on the Internet in general.

One thing I love and greatly appreciate about DeltaVA is that such behavior is not tolerated. While we may disagree from time to time about this topic or that (Airbus vs. Boeing, anyone?), 99.9% of the time we disagree in a respectful, friendly manner, not counting the occasional good natured ribbing we may do to each other that we understand is all in good fun. On those rare occasions that disagreements are not so civil, management reacts swiftly to edit posts, lock or remove threads, or discipline offenders. For this reason, I visit this site nearly every day and often several times a day, and not just because of a shared love of aviation: it is also because in the morass of petty name calling and childish personal attacks that the Internet has become (or perhaps was all along), DeltaVA is a breath of fresh air and an oasis of sanity.

Mike Holmes

First Officer, B767-300

DVA6695
Captain, MD-88

Joined on November 26 2008
Century Club
Online Century Club

"We are....Penn State"
Phoenixville, PA USA

153 legs, 206.0 hours
108 legs, 149.6 hours online
149 legs, 200.2 hours ACARS
11 legs, 20.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 23 2009 09:20 ET by Jack Urie

I think that DVA's great reputation is due to the consistently involved and dedicated management team. It seems that many other VAs are created but then the driving force(s) lose their desire, and it just withers and dies. We all owe it to them, so we need to keep doing the best we can on VATSIM and on the water cooler (which everyone can see, btw).

Jack Urie

Captain, MD-88

DVA3707
First Officer, B737-800

Joined on November 11 2006
Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Western United States

111 legs, 214.7 hours
67 legs, 117.3 hours online
106 legs, 206.5 hours ACARS
2 legs, 3.2 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 23 2009 09:29 ET by Andrew Martz

Just an FYI, widgetheads is back up and so far no logo to be found.

Andrew Martz

First Officer, B737-800

DVA3382
Senior Captain, B717-200
OLP, COMM

Joined on July 26 2006
Event Half Century Club
50 State Club
Globetrotter
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Kangaroo Club
Three Million Mile Club
Tri-Millennium Club
Online Seven Century Club
Everett 1500 Club
White Knuckles Club

"Go For Launch"
Houston, TX

3,454 legs, 9,127.1 hours
720 legs, 1,205.6 hours online
3,392 legs, 8,967.9 hours ACARS
61 legs, 145.0 hours event
0 legs dispatched, 6.1 hours

Posted onPost created on November 24 2009 12:49 ET by Ryan Daugherty

It has been suspended. Looks like the DL Legal dept. went straight to the site host.

RD

Ryan Daugherty

Senior Captain, B717-200

DVA1690
Senior Captain, MD-88
OLP

Joined on May 05 2004
50 State Club
Quatercentenary Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Stage 1 Jet Double Century Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

"Life begins at Vr"
Longmont, CO USA

477 legs, 700.4 hours
468 legs, 686.6 hours online
254 legs, 389.4 hours ACARS
3 legs, 3.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 24 2009 15:35 ET by Trevor Bair

Delta is after everything on the widgetheads.net site (including the URL) claiming it is "proprietary" information. Great way to treat one of the airline's biggest fans AND a great source of information for those of us who are Delta customers...

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4618753/

Trevor Bair

Senior Captain, MD-88

DVA3672
Senior Captain, A320
OLP
E-MAIL

Joined on October 29 2006
B757 100 Club
50 State Club
Two Million Mile Club
Bi-Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
US Capital Club
Toulouse Millennium Club
Online Fifteen Century

"Chris, NOT in Seattle"
Northeastern United States

2,534 legs, 6,223.1 hours
1,537 legs, 3,252.2 hours online
2,243 legs, 5,407.0 hours ACARS
4 legs, 6.0 hours event
2 legs dispatched, 19.5 hours

Posted onPost created on November 24 2009 16:55 ET by Chris Frasure

Trevor my thoughts exactly. They are huge fans of the airline and really are not selling anything or claiming anything. Wonder why they are all over them so much?

CF

DVA6626
Captain, MD-11

Joined on November 07 2008
Six Century Club
Million Mile Club

""PROFILE CLIMB""
Las Vegas, NV

753 legs, 2,288.9 hours
28 legs, 55.2 hours online
747 legs, 2,255.7 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on November 24 2009 17:02 ET by Michael Pare

flightsimming without DVA woulden't be worth it.

Michael Pare (DVA6626)

Posted onPost created on November 24 2009 17:44 ET by Kevin Cornish

Chris, one word answer: Money. widgetheads didn't pay Delta for the right to use thier logo, and so now Delta needs to make a point. Its an unfortunate side effect of buissness. If Delta doesn't go after them, and then decides to go after someone else for improperly using the Delta logo, the 2nd group could claim an unfair bias by Delta.

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on November 24 2009 20:25 ET by Chris Frasure

Hmmm, free advertising seems like really good "payment" to me.
CF

Posted onPost created on November 25 2009 08:05 ET by Ken Nesbitt

The problem with "free advertising" in this sense is that it is not regulated. We run a tight ship here and require everyone to represent DVA just like it were the real airline. With that being said, if you go around posting names and logos for someone, even if it is free, you may not be representing what Delta is all about. So, what if in their "cooler" they allow people to curse, be offensive, or do anything that is not becoming of a professional? Delta cannot regulate what their name is being associated with, therefore it is just as easy to just say no to everyone. CHEERS

Ken Nesbitt

Senior Captain, L-1011-100

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