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DVA3577
Captain, B737-800
Joined on September 24 2006
Flint, MI
33 legs, 76.2 hours
31 legs,
73.8 hours online
22 legs,
54.9 hours ACARS
1 legs,
2.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
December 31 2009 18:14 ET by Harold Rutila
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| On VATSIM the Minneapolis ARTCC is hosting an upcoming event (Friday Night Ops featuring Farewell NWA), and on the VATUSA front page the event description mentions that the NWA ICAO callsign is being phased out. Is this true? Does anyone have information on the fleet conversion to all Delta colors, or has that already been done? I know just last month there were still many NWA-painted aircraft at DTW and DEN.
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DVA7373
Captain, B757-200
OLP
Joined on May 31 2009
"Howdy"
Southeastern United States
72 legs, 187.6 hours
32 legs,
85.4 hours online
67 legs,
153.2 hours ACARS
2 legs,
3.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
December 31 2009 18:16 ET by Nicholas Taylor
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Just because the callsign and operations are being merged doesn't mean that all planes are painted yet. It is true they are officially operating under a SOC right as I type this.
Nicholas TaylorCaptain, B757-200
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DVA5973
Captain, B757-200
Joined on May 25 2008
B757 100 Club
Million Mile Club
Everett Millennium Club
Flying Colonel
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Atlanta, GA
1,514 legs, 4,691.2 hours
1,459 legs,
4,569.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
December 31 2009 18:25 ET by Joe Coughlin
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Sounds good!
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DVA1038
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL
Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club
"Celer, Silens, Mortalis"
Summerville, SC USA
169 legs, 1,008.2 hours
56 legs,
288.5 hours online
25 legs,
221.2 hours ACARS
1 legs,
5.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
December 31 2009 18:32 ET by Kevin Cornish
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Yep, until all NWA planes are in Delta colors, the planes still in NWA colors would say, for instance, DAL342, request IFR clr. to RJAA, in Northwest colors.
Kevin CornishCaptain, B737-800
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DVA238
Senior Captain, B737-800
Joined on August 15 2001
Online Double Century Club
B757 100 Club
Millennium Club
Million Mile Club
Everett Millennium Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
"Repainters, "Get Ready""
Comer, GA
1,487 legs, 3,439.5 hours
235 legs,
435.3 hours online
1,126 legs,
2,802.7 hours ACARS
1 legs dispatched, 1.8
hours
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Posted onPost created on
December 31 2009 19:28 ET by Brittany Sventon
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I am waiting to see if I need to change the AI traffic callsigns to Delta
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DVA3577
Captain, B737-800
Joined on September 24 2006
Flint, MI
33 legs, 76.2 hours
31 legs,
73.8 hours online
22 legs,
54.9 hours ACARS
1 legs,
2.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 01 2010 04:15 ET by Harold Rutila
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Brittany Sventon wrote:
I am waiting to see if I need to change the AI traffic callsigns to Delta
Time to get on VATSIM!
Thanks for your responses!
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DVA3382
Senior Captain, B717-200
OLP, COMM
Joined on July 26 2006
Event Half Century Club
50 State Club
Globetrotter
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Kangaroo Club
Three Million Mile Club
Tri-Millennium Club
Online Seven Century Club
Everett 1500 Club
White Knuckles Club
"Go For Launch"
Houston, TX
3,454 legs, 9,127.1 hours
720 legs,
1,205.6 hours online
3,392 legs,
8,967.9 hours ACARS
61 legs,
145.0 hours event
0 legs dispatched, 6.1
hours
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Posted onPost created on
January 01 2010 10:10 ET by Ryan Daugherty
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They are still operating with the NWA callsign.... Just heard it this morning and FA looks like they're still filing with NWA.
RD
Ryan DaughertySenior Captain, B717-200
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DVA2370
Senior Captain, B737-800
OLP, COMM, VFRADV
Joined on May 26 2005
Online Triple Century Club
Commuter Conquest
Six Century Club
Stage 1 Prop Triple Century Club
50 State Club
US Coastal Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Flagler Beach, FL USA
675 legs, 726.8 hours
319 legs,
311.4 hours online
179 legs,
146.1 hours ACARS
1 legs,
1.6 hours event
0 legs dispatched, 4.0
hours
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Posted onPost created on
January 01 2010 11:05 ET by Scott Clarke
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Did ya pass your IFR checkride? 
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DVA8060
First Officer, B737-800
Joined on December 06 2009
B757 100 Club
Online Double Century Club
Everett 250 Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Swindon, UK
347 legs, 998.9 hours
280 legs,
861.5 hours online
343 legs,
986.8 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
January 01 2010 17:05 ET by Jamie Moss
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The thing is all the flights in the DVA schedule are still showing NW, so do we simply replace the NW with DAL and keep the same flight number?
Jamie MossFirst Officer, B737-800
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DVA1038
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL
Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club
"Celer, Silens, Mortalis"
Summerville, SC USA
169 legs, 1,008.2 hours
56 legs,
288.5 hours online
25 legs,
221.2 hours ACARS
1 legs,
5.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 01 2010 23:16 ET by Kevin Cornish
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Until we here diferently from Sr. Staff, I'd continue to use the NWA callsign in ACARS if you are flying a NWA route. I'd go w/ whatever the schedule has listed.
Kevin CornishCaptain, B737-800
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DVA4290
Senior Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on April 04 2007
50 State Club
Online Triple Century Club
Quincentenary Club
"Lightning coming out of that one"
Houston, TX USA
502 legs, 829.4 hours
340 legs,
575.5 hours online
421 legs,
683.7 hours ACARS
41 legs,
81.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 02 2010 13:01 ET by Andrew Lynn
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Kevin Cornish wrote:
Yep, until all NWA planes are in Delta colors, the planes still in NWA colors would say, for instance, DAL342, request IFR clr. to RJAA, in Northwest colors.
Although the single callsign date has not been officially set yet, there won't be a need to do that once they go to one callsign because of the single SOC.
The reason why they did the NWXXX in DL colors was to avoid confusion with the controllers looking out the window for a NW a/c operating under a DL callsign (still technically two separate companies) with the single SOC, it wouldn't matter anymore. The controllers know all NW and DL a/c have the DL callsign (US and AWE a/c flew under Cactus).
Andrew LynnSenior Captain, CRJ-200
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DVA7373
Captain, B757-200
OLP
Joined on May 31 2009
"Howdy"
Southeastern United States
72 legs, 187.6 hours
32 legs,
85.4 hours online
67 legs,
153.2 hours ACARS
2 legs,
3.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 02 2010 15:43 ET by Nicholas Taylor
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Yeah it's basically the same thing now as US and American West. They both are called Cactus, but different paints. Now Northwest and Delta are called Delta, but NW has a different paint on some planes.
Nicholas TaylorCaptain, B757-200
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DVA6622
Captain, B767-300
E-MAIL
Joined on November 09 2008
Everett Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Vandalia, OH USA
365 legs, 635.8 hours
347 legs,
610.0 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
January 03 2010 07:00 ET by Daniel Betts
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Andrew Lynn wrote:
Kevin Cornish wrote:
Yep, until all NWA planes are in Delta colors, the planes still in NWA colors would say, for instance, DAL342, request IFR clr. to RJAA, in Northwest colors.
Although the single callsign date has not been officially set yet, there won't be a need to do that once they go to one callsign because of the single SOC.
The reason why they did the NWXXX in DL colors was to avoid confusion with the controllers looking out the window for a NW a/c operating under a DL callsign (still technically two separate companies) with the single SOC, it wouldn't matter anymore. The controllers know all NW and DL a/c have the DL callsign (US and AWE a/c flew under Cactus).
The callsign will probably merge January 31, 2010 since that is when the reservations computers will merge and the Northwest name will cease to exist.
Daniel BettsCaptain, B767-300
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DVA4290
Senior Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on April 04 2007
50 State Club
Online Triple Century Club
Quincentenary Club
"Lightning coming out of that one"
Houston, TX USA
502 legs, 829.4 hours
340 legs,
575.5 hours online
421 legs,
683.7 hours ACARS
41 legs,
81.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 03 2010 23:26 ET by Andrew Lynn
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Yea, Dan, that's what I was told as well, it will be towards the end of the month.
Andrew LynnSenior Captain, CRJ-200
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DVA7899
Captain, B737-800
Joined on October 29 2009
Online Double Century Club
Long Beach Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"PMDG or go home :)"
Springfield, MO USA
304 legs, 743.8 hours
283 legs,
682.2 hours online
303 legs,
740.0 hours ACARS
30 legs,
47.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 04 2010 01:01 ET by Skylar Macminn
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Nicholas Taylor wrote:
Yeah it's basically the same thing now as US and American West. They both are called Cactus, but different paints. Now Northwest and Delta are called Delta, but NW has a different paint on some planes.
A little under 20% of the original fleet are still existing in NWA colors. I'd imagine these will be painted soon
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DVA3577
Captain, B737-800
Joined on September 24 2006
Flint, MI
33 legs, 76.2 hours
31 legs,
73.8 hours online
22 legs,
54.9 hours ACARS
1 legs,
2.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 04 2010 09:23 ET by Harold Rutila
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Skylar Macminn wrote:
Nicholas Taylor wrote:
Yeah it's basically the same thing now as US and American West. They both are called Cactus, but different paints. Now Northwest and Delta are called Delta, but NW has a different paint on some planes.
A little under 20% of the original fleet are still existing in NWA colors. I'd imagine these will be painted soon
How do you know that? I was in Detroit and Denver a few weeks ago and noted that there were still a lot of NWA-painted aircraft. In fact, both times I flew I was with NWA colors.
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DVA2315
Senior Captain, MD-88
Joined on April 30 2005
Long Beach 250 Club
Six Century Club
Online Quintuple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"www.harborcounty.net"
Cypress, TX USA
674 legs, 1,380.9 hours
506 legs,
907.6 hours online
495 legs,
1,029.0 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
January 04 2010 10:44 ET by Daniel Shaw
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Skylar Macminn wrote:
A little under 20% of the original fleet are still existing in NWA colors. I'd imagine these will be painted soon
Harold Rutila wrote:
How do you know that? I was in Detroit and Denver a few weeks ago and noted that there were still a lot of NWA-painted aircraft. In fact, both times I flew I was with NWA colors.
That may be, but according to Delta's website, now that the NWA fleet has been added to the "Delta" fleet, Delta now has over 1000 aircraft. So, 20% would be about 200 aircraft still remaining in NWA colors, so it's easy to believe that you would still see a lot of them in DTW where they are all routed through as a hub.
Daniel ShawSenior Captain, MD-88
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DVA4290
Senior Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on April 04 2007
50 State Club
Online Triple Century Club
Quincentenary Club
"Lightning coming out of that one"
Houston, TX USA
502 legs, 829.4 hours
340 legs,
575.5 hours online
421 legs,
683.7 hours ACARS
41 legs,
81.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 04 2010 14:32 ET by Andrew Lynn
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You would have had an accurate count if widget heads was still up and running. There's usually a DL/NW paint thread running on airliners.net. If I can find a recent one i'll post. But 20-30% sounds about right.
Andrew LynnSenior Captain, CRJ-200
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DVA4890
Captain, B747-400
OLP
Joined on August 22 2007
Million Mile Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Millennium Club
"Jesus is my co-pilot"
McDonough, GA USA
1,022 legs, 3,005.6 hours
330 legs,
1,101.7 hours online
948 legs,
2,807.1 hours ACARS
59 legs,
156.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 04 2010 16:17 ET by Mark Fetters
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I saw a NWA EMB-170 in ATL the other day which was kind of weird but i think it was going to MEM
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DVA5523
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on January 19 2006
Southeastern United States
26 legs, 30.0 hours
22 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
January 04 2010 17:58 ET by Caleb Cross
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The call sign with become Delta when they cut the res system over.
There are still a few A32S,2 A333s, 1 753 and 4 744s in NW C/S. The rest that aren't(DC-9-30/40 and the 752 5500 ships) will not see Delta paint, and will be parked by years end. They will get stickers that say "opp by Delta Air Lines, INC.". (I am talking mainline only)
DCI is slowly but surely painting there planes. 50% of the SF3 fleet wont see Delta paint as Delta will be pulling them(and we are going to end up with out SAABs all together)
So of the DAL-N carriers are starting to do Atlanta routes, CP is doing a few flights out of ATL now so is XJ. 9E is going to start running more CR2 routes out of Atlanta also come FEB.
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DVA6622
Captain, B767-300
E-MAIL
Joined on November 09 2008
Everett Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Vandalia, OH USA
365 legs, 635.8 hours
347 legs,
610.0 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
January 05 2010 09:29 ET by Daniel Betts
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I do believe that Delta will keep a couple of Saabs. Delta used to fly the ATRs into HHH but now will use the Saabs because CRJs can't land there do to the runway length (4,300 ft or 500 ft shorter than EYW).
Daniel BettsCaptain, B767-300
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DVA4069
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP
Joined on February 18 2007
Everett 250 Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Six Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"War Eagle!"
Southeastern United States
681 legs, 2,227.3 hours
478 legs,
1,098.5 hours online
607 legs,
1,936.8 hours ACARS
25 legs,
59.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 05 2010 15:41 ET by J.T. Coston
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Daniel the CRJ-700 can get into KEYW just fine. The -700 has slats.
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DVA4290
Senior Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on April 04 2007
50 State Club
Online Triple Century Club
Quincentenary Club
"Lightning coming out of that one"
Houston, TX USA
502 legs, 829.4 hours
340 legs,
575.5 hours online
421 legs,
683.7 hours ACARS
41 legs,
81.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 06 2010 02:18 ET by Andrew Lynn
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Dan,
DL has recently discontinued serve to Hilton Head (no mention of wheather it's seasonal or not). The problem with HHH is not really the runway length. The CR7 would do fine out of there; it is the NIMBYs. Strict noise rules is what prevents jet service to HHH.
As an aside, with EYW, the problem is take-offs. The CR2s don't have leading edge slats so their run is usually very long, especially when heavy and in the summer. We would send them down during the off season but not during the hottest times of the year.
Andrew LynnSenior Captain, CRJ-200
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DVA2434
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP
Joined on July 01 2005
50 State Club
Online Century Club
Million Mile Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Nine Century Club
Boston, MA
943 legs, 3,373.4 hours
193 legs,
398.7 hours online
915 legs,
3,292.9 hours ACARS
113 legs dispatched, 138.7
hours
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Posted onPost created on
January 06 2010 09:18 ET by Dylan Neidorff
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| I think Delta is also using the A330 on the ATL to HNL flight now....Under the Delta callsign and paint.
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DVA5973
Captain, B757-200
Joined on May 25 2008
B757 100 Club
Million Mile Club
Everett Millennium Club
Flying Colonel
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Atlanta, GA
1,514 legs, 4,691.2 hours
1,459 legs,
4,569.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
January 06 2010 20:40 ET by Joe Coughlin
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Dylan Neidorff wrote:
I think Delta is also using the A330 on the ATL to HNL flight now....Under the Delta callsign and paint.
Nope, they shouldn't be. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA803
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DVA5523
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on January 19 2006
Southeastern United States
26 legs, 30.0 hours
22 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
January 06 2010 23:33 ET by Caleb Cross
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Andrew Lynn wrote:
Dan,
DL has recently discontinued serve to Hilton Head (no mention of wheather it's seasonal or not). The problem with HHH is not really the runway length. The CR7 would do fine out of there; it is the NIMBYs. Strict noise rules is what prevents jet service to HHH.
As an aside, with EYW, the problem is take-offs. The CR2s don't have leading edge slats so their run is usually very long, especially when heavy and in the summer. We would send them down during the off season but not during the hottest times of the year.
It is seasonal, will be back in S10 with a SAAB.
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