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Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | PC Support | New Video Card
DVA7633
Assistant Chief Pilot, B737-800
OLP
DISPATCHER

Joined on August 07 2009
B757 100 Club
Event Half Century Club
Everett 500 Club
Million Mile Club
Millennium Club
Online Nine Century
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"When the clouds roll in, I roll out."
Minneapolis, MN USA

1,183 legs, 3,139.3 hours
939 legs, 2,593.2 hours online
1,137 legs, 3,016.6 hours ACARS
80 legs, 171.1 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.8 hours
Posted onPost created on March 06 2010 18:14 ET by Luke Hubers
Hi guys, this may be kinda a ramble of questions but bare with me.

I was thinking of getting a new video card for my computer (my current video card is a 128mb, yikes) and I was hoping to update it to a newer video card. Does anyone have any recomendations of really good video cards that work well with FSX or FS2004. I would like something that would bump up my FPS and make my FS look MUCH BETTER than it is now. The most I would really be willing to spend it $200. Any help would be great. Thanks

(I was looking at this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/eVGA-GeForce-8800GTX-8800-GTX-768MB-DDR3-PCI-E-Card_W0QQitemZ320493318730QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards?hash=item4a9ee3f24a What do you think?



DVA2318
Captain, B777-200
OLP
E-MAIL

Joined on May 01 2005
Online Century Club
Double Century Club

Detroit, MI

201 legs, 637.0 hours
177 legs, 600.7 hours online
191 legs, 622.5 hours ACARS
41 legs, 98.6 hours event
216 legs, 721.7 hours total
Posted onPost created on March 06 2010 18:26 ET by Brandon Cruz
8800GTX? Your kidding me? That is soooo 2006.

You are much better off with this:

9800GTX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339&cm_re=9800-_-14-130-339-_-Product

or this:
GTX 260
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130433

Don't forget you also need a decent CPU otherwise a fast GPU would be useless for FS.
DVA7633
Assistant Chief Pilot, B737-800
OLP
DISPATCHER

Joined on August 07 2009
B757 100 Club
Event Half Century Club
Everett 500 Club
Million Mile Club
Millennium Club
Online Nine Century
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"When the clouds roll in, I roll out."
Minneapolis, MN USA

1,183 legs, 3,139.3 hours
939 legs, 2,593.2 hours online
1,137 legs, 3,016.6 hours ACARS
80 legs, 171.1 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.8 hours
Posted onPost created on March 06 2010 18:35 ET by Luke Hubers
I have a 2.21 GHZ AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad-Core Processor, would that be to slow?


DVA2318
Captain, B777-200
OLP
E-MAIL

Joined on May 01 2005
Online Century Club
Double Century Club

Detroit, MI

201 legs, 637.0 hours
177 legs, 600.7 hours online
191 legs, 622.5 hours ACARS
41 legs, 98.6 hours event
216 legs, 721.7 hours total
Posted onPost created on March 06 2010 21:28 ET by Brandon Cruz
Luke Jones wrote:

I have a 2.21 GHZ AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad-Core Processor, would that be to slow?


I really don't know. What frame rate are you getting on the average? For comparison, I have a GTX 260 and an athlon x2 3800+ at 2.70ghz running at 7 fps new york; 23 fps cruise FL350 using a PMDG MD-11. I heard if i just upgrade to a quad intel i7 I can double my frame rate.
DVA4295
Captain, B767-300

Joined on April 05 2007
Online Century Club
Double Century Club

Stratford, CT USA

212 legs, 397.9 hours
194 legs, 368.4 hours online
190 legs, 356.7 hours ACARS
3 legs, 6.7 hours event
19 legs dispatched, 10.0 hours
Posted onPost created on March 06 2010 21:31 ET by John Alusik
An increase in you FPS is going to depend also on your CPU. You may be getting a great GPU but if you CPU can't keep up then a good GPU won't do much.

John Alusik

Captain, B767-300
DVA2318
Captain, B777-200
OLP
E-MAIL

Joined on May 01 2005
Online Century Club
Double Century Club

Detroit, MI

201 legs, 637.0 hours
177 legs, 600.7 hours online
191 legs, 622.5 hours ACARS
41 legs, 98.6 hours event
216 legs, 721.7 hours total
Posted onPost created on March 06 2010 21:39 ET by Brandon Cruz
John Alusik wrote:

An increase in you FPS is going to depend also on your CPU. You may be getting a great GPU but if you CPU can't keep up then a good GPU won't do much.


Yeah but if you have a bad GPU then your going to hurt too. I cannot play FS2004 on my laptop that I bought 4 months ago because of that no good Intel GMA 4500!

Also, could you tell me what video card do you have along with your FPS avg? I thought a Phenom would be acceptable for FSX.
DVA7729
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP

Joined on September 09 2009
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
Online Triple Century Club
Globetrotter

"Roar like GE-90s!"
Mississauga, ON Canada

396 legs, 1,741.6 hours
380 legs, 1,692.7 hours online
391 legs, 1,702.2 hours ACARS
46 legs, 113.8 hours event
Posted onPost created on March 06 2010 21:42 ET by Shahzeb Bhutto
For that price range, this card will be excellent buy for you.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4683604&CatId=3669

or the one Brandon suggested you.



DVA7633
Assistant Chief Pilot, B737-800
OLP
DISPATCHER

Joined on August 07 2009
B757 100 Club
Event Half Century Club
Everett 500 Club
Million Mile Club
Millennium Club
Online Nine Century
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"When the clouds roll in, I roll out."
Minneapolis, MN USA

1,183 legs, 3,139.3 hours
939 legs, 2,593.2 hours online
1,137 legs, 3,016.6 hours ACARS
80 legs, 171.1 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.8 hours
Posted onPost created on March 07 2010 13:29 ET by Luke Hubers
My current video card is:

NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430

I get around 5-10 FPS on approach with Captain Sim 757 (onle about 3-7 coming into KJFK or KLAX) flying online.
I get about 15 FPS at cruise with same aircraft.

Also, I was watching this video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQOiS4tmPhc )..... What do you think?



DVA7633
Assistant Chief Pilot, B737-800
OLP
DISPATCHER

Joined on August 07 2009
B757 100 Club
Event Half Century Club
Everett 500 Club
Million Mile Club
Millennium Club
Online Nine Century
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"When the clouds roll in, I roll out."
Minneapolis, MN USA

1,183 legs, 3,139.3 hours
939 legs, 2,593.2 hours online
1,137 legs, 3,016.6 hours ACARS
80 legs, 171.1 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.8 hours
Posted onPost created on March 08 2010 19:31 ET by Luke Hubers
So here is just to sum up all my current specs in one:

2.21 GHZ AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad-Core Processor
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430

So what would be the best replacement for the Video Card?



DVA2318
Captain, B777-200
OLP
E-MAIL

Joined on May 01 2005
Online Century Club
Double Century Club

Detroit, MI

201 legs, 637.0 hours
177 legs, 600.7 hours online
191 legs, 622.5 hours ACARS
41 legs, 98.6 hours event
216 legs, 721.7 hours total
Posted onPost created on March 08 2010 20:00 ET by Brandon Cruz
Luke Jones wrote:

So here is just to sum up all my current specs in one:

2.21 GHZ AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad-Core Processor
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430

So what would be the best replacement for the Video Card?


Yes!! You definitely definitely need a new video card.

I Suggest the following,

The

NVIDIA -
GTX 260
9800 GTX
GTS 250

or you can go with ATI if you want. The 5750 is pretty good.

If you could, you should get at least 4GB of ram too (if haven't done so)

DVA7633
Assistant Chief Pilot, B737-800
OLP
DISPATCHER

Joined on August 07 2009
B757 100 Club
Event Half Century Club
Everett 500 Club
Million Mile Club
Millennium Club
Online Nine Century
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"When the clouds roll in, I roll out."
Minneapolis, MN USA

1,183 legs, 3,139.3 hours
939 legs, 2,593.2 hours online
1,137 legs, 3,016.6 hours ACARS
80 legs, 171.1 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.8 hours
Posted onPost created on March 08 2010 20:02 ET by Luke Hubers
Ok, so the Processor is just fine (right???). lol, no need to worry about the ram, I've got 6 GB (hehe).


DVA2318
Captain, B777-200
OLP
E-MAIL

Joined on May 01 2005
Online Century Club
Double Century Club

Detroit, MI

201 legs, 637.0 hours
177 legs, 600.7 hours online
191 legs, 622.5 hours ACARS
41 legs, 98.6 hours event
216 legs, 721.7 hours total
Posted onPost created on March 08 2010 20:06 ET by Brandon Cruz
Luke Jones wrote:

Ok, so the Processor is just fine (right???). lol, no need to worry about the ram, I've got 6 GB (hehe).


Not really, but you'll do better then me. Your system will SCREAM if you have an Intel i7.

Here is a great example; compare that to the 10fps i get with my pc using the same settings, area everything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur7OazI-0VA

seriously i'll sell my soul for that computer there.
DVA7633
Assistant Chief Pilot, B737-800
OLP
DISPATCHER

Joined on August 07 2009
B757 100 Club
Event Half Century Club
Everett 500 Club
Million Mile Club
Millennium Club
Online Nine Century
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"When the clouds roll in, I roll out."
Minneapolis, MN USA

1,183 legs, 3,139.3 hours
939 legs, 2,593.2 hours online
1,137 legs, 3,016.6 hours ACARS
80 legs, 171.1 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.8 hours
Posted onPost created on March 08 2010 20:12 ET by Luke Hubers
So let's say I do get a pretty good video card (much better than what I have now) and use FS2004 with REX, addon scenery for airport, and CS757. Will I be seeing more than my 5-10 FPS at major airports and will it make FS2004 look better?


DVA2318
Captain, B777-200
OLP
E-MAIL

Joined on May 01 2005
Online Century Club
Double Century Club

Detroit, MI

201 legs, 637.0 hours
177 legs, 600.7 hours online
191 legs, 622.5 hours ACARS
41 legs, 98.6 hours event
216 legs, 721.7 hours total
Posted onPost created on March 08 2010 20:20 ET by Brandon Cruz
Luke Jones wrote:

So let's say I do get a pretty good video card (much better than what I have now) and use FS2004 with REX, addon scenery for airport, and CS757. Will I be seeing more than my 5-10 FPS at major airports and will it make FS2004 look better?


FS2004? Wow I thought you meant FSX~!

Anyway I really don't know now. I get around 15-28 FPS landing at JFK with REX (FS9) SSTSIM concorde and AS6.5, never tried CS757 but I heard its a frame rate hog even with FS9! I also get around 10fps at a high altitude due to clouds. Don't know why and how but the sluttering was wayyy worse then FSX.

But as I tried FS9 on my piece of junk laptop, it's safe to say that you will get better framerates if you upgrade your video card to a 9800GTX for example even though its kinda of a overkill.
DVA7633
Assistant Chief Pilot, B737-800
OLP
DISPATCHER

Joined on August 07 2009
B757 100 Club
Event Half Century Club
Everett 500 Club
Million Mile Club
Millennium Club
Online Nine Century
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"When the clouds roll in, I roll out."
Minneapolis, MN USA

1,183 legs, 3,139.3 hours
939 legs, 2,593.2 hours online
1,137 legs, 3,016.6 hours ACARS
80 legs, 171.1 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.8 hours
Posted onPost created on March 08 2010 20:30 ET by Luke Hubers
Ok. Now here is all the specs I have. From what you're saying I believe I should upgrade the processor as well (but I don't really have the money now).

Windows Vista 64 bit
600GB Hardrive
Memory(RAM): 6.00 GB
2.21 GHZ AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad-Core Processor
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430

If anyone else could give me some help I would really appreciate it. Thanks Brandon for the help. The big question I have is what should I upgrade and what would the results be (FPS, how it looks etc.). What would it be like if I just upgraded the video card?





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