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Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | FSPassengers For DVA??
DVA8468
Captain, B737-800

Joined on March 31 2010

Northeastern United States

26 legs, 42.8 hours
20 legs, 34.6 hours online
26 legs, 42.8 hours ACARS
 Posted onPost created on April 15 2010 20:10 ET by Gari Mclaughlin
I was thinking about that, but it wouldn't be that hard for DVA to set up a VA for FsPassengers. And then people could fly with FSpass and upload the flights to the Web site. I mean just a thought, and not sure if there might already be one.

Gari Mclaughlin

Captain, B737-800
DVA3196
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP, COMM

Joined on June 03 2006
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club

"pitchpowertrim.com"
Anderson, MO

619 legs, 1,093.4 hours
292 legs, 503.1 hours online
580 legs, 1,026.5 hours ACARS
89 legs, 191.0 hours event
236 legs dispatched, 110.1 hours
 Posted onPost created on April 15 2010 20:35 ET by Michael Brown
You can use FSPax all you want now....you want a whole new VA just for FSPax?


DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett 1500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Four Million Mile Club

"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA

2,317 legs, 9,330.6 hours
240 legs, 553.9 hours online
1,975 legs, 8,123.7 hours ACARS
75 legs, 196.3 hours event
2,353 legs, 9,465.5 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4 hours
 Posted onPost created on April 15 2010 20:43 ET by Luke Kolin
We've considered it, but ACARS provides far more data than FSPax.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11
DVA8468
Captain, B737-800

Joined on March 31 2010

Northeastern United States

26 legs, 42.8 hours
20 legs, 34.6 hours online
26 legs, 42.8 hours ACARS
 Posted onPost created on April 15 2010 22:44 ET by Gari Mclaughlin
Well, no, I am not saying starting a whole new VA. And I am not saying use FsPass instead of the ACARS. What I am saying, is allowing us to upload our FSPass flights to DVA, and then you will have a page on the site here, with something similar to this:
http://www.fsp.hawkflyers.com/fsplistflight.php
I don't know. Then I won't have to upload all my flights to there. It isn't like it is important. Just a thought.

Gari Mclaughlin

Captain, B737-800
DVA2496
Senior Captain, B757-200
OLP

Joined on July 13 2005
B757 100 Club
50 State Club
Iron Dispatcher
Black Pearl Club
Everett Millennium Club
Globetrotter
Flying Colonel
Online Fifteen Century
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Two Million Mile Club
Event Half Century Club

"Delta Connect - Antigua to world"
Cassada Gardens, Saint John Antigua and Barbuda

1,929 legs, 6,176.8 hours
1,833 legs, 5,915.8 hours online
1,788 legs, 5,759.9 hours ACARS
76 legs, 159.2 hours event
641 legs dispatched, 253.3 hours
 Posted onPost created on April 16 2010 09:01 ET by Perez Howson
Gari,

What Luke is saying - ACARS provides more information and has more capabilities on tracking flights than FSPax...

If your FS crashes while using FSPax , when you restart you lose all your data, where as with ACARS, you restore and continue the flight rather than having to do a 14hour flight all over again..

Hope that helps

PIH


DVA5270
Senior Captain, B737-800

Joined on September 27 2007
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
Online Quintuple Century Club
Nine Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary

"p=np"
Charleston, SC USA

977 legs, 1,725.8 hours
578 legs, 894.1 hours online
931 legs, 1,647.1 hours ACARS
43 legs, 67.0 hours event
 Posted onPost created on April 16 2010 09:38 ET by Don Thomas
Gari,

Use FSPax copy and past the flight report into the comments of you ACARS report and submit it. I have a few guys who do and frankly I like reading the FSPax reports.

Don Thomas

Senior Captain, B737-800
DVA5074
Captain, MD-11

Joined on October 11 2007
Long Beach Century Club
Quatercentenary Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"9/11 Never Forget"
Attica Greece

475 legs, 813.0 hours
426 legs, 734.3 hours online
472 legs, 809.1 hours ACARS
 Posted onPost created on April 16 2010 09:40 ET by Evangelos Kagklis
Don Thomas wrote:

Gari,

Use FSPax copy and past the flight report into the comments of you ACARS report and submit it. I have a few guys who do and frankly I like reading the FSPax reports.



Hey thats good idea!

Evangelos Kagklis

Captain, MD-11
DVA2496
Senior Captain, B757-200
OLP

Joined on July 13 2005
B757 100 Club
50 State Club
Iron Dispatcher
Black Pearl Club
Everett Millennium Club
Globetrotter
Flying Colonel
Online Fifteen Century
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Two Million Mile Club
Event Half Century Club

"Delta Connect - Antigua to world"
Cassada Gardens, Saint John Antigua and Barbuda

1,929 legs, 6,176.8 hours
1,833 legs, 5,915.8 hours online
1,788 legs, 5,759.9 hours ACARS
76 legs, 159.2 hours event
641 legs dispatched, 253.3 hours
 Posted onPost created on April 16 2010 10:44 ET by Perez Howson
Don Thomas wrote:

Gari,

Use FSPax copy and past the flight report into the comments of you ACARS report and submit it. I have a few guys who do and frankly I like reading the FSPax reports.


That's exactly what I do - If i don't have to do a restore that is..

PIH


DVA8468
Captain, B737-800

Joined on March 31 2010

Northeastern United States

26 legs, 42.8 hours
20 legs, 34.6 hours online
26 legs, 42.8 hours ACARS
 Posted onPost created on April 16 2010 19:40 ET by Gari Mclaughlin
Nevermind. Moderator can delete this dead thread.

Gari Mclaughlin

Captain, B737-800
DVA6534
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP

Joined on October 19 2008
50 State Club
Online Triple Century Club
Quincentenary Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Everett 250 Club

Cleveland, OH USA

576 legs, 1,329.4 hours
377 legs, 879.4 hours online
570 legs, 1,318.5 hours ACARS
36 legs, 87.6 hours event
30 legs dispatched, 40.9 hours
 Posted onPost created on April 17 2010 09:22 ET by John DeBarr
maybe you are on to something tho.. just backwards.

what if ACARS HAD FSpassengers in it? the display.. the whole if you land rough you get passenger dissatisfaction etc.. loading passengers.. generating money for DVA.. getting a salary.. rating the flight..



might be more realism than people want (not me mind you.. but some people)

hmmm..




John DeBarr

Senior Captain, B747-400
DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200

Joined on November 15 2007

Sacramento, CA USA

45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs, 9.1 hours online
43 legs, 66.5 hours ACARS
 Posted onPost created on April 20 2010 16:25 ET by Daniel Haro
I had discussed the salary part before but got turned down on the idea.

Although integrating or creating something similiar with DVA ACARS would be something... plotting
Just like in the settings, possibly the pilot could check off that realism if he didn't want it?

-Daniel

Daniel Haro

First Officer, B777-200
DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett 1500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Four Million Mile Club

"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA

2,317 legs, 9,330.6 hours
240 legs, 553.9 hours online
1,975 legs, 8,123.7 hours ACARS
75 legs, 196.3 hours event
2,353 legs, 9,465.5 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4 hours
 Posted onPost created on April 20 2010 16:32 ET by Luke Kolin
We face two challenges - the biggest one is that there's only so much of me to go around, and I'm rather busy with ACARS3 and helping Scott and Ken with some upcoming changes to the Flight Academy and our promotions policy.

The other part is more philosophical. We've always been very leery of adding quantitative measures to allow members to "compete" based on qunatitative metrics. Salary, revenue and operating expenses are the kind of quantitative measures that we've tried to stay away from, in favor of different quantitative metrics like landing rate, distance from runway threshold, that sort of thing. The experience I've had, and what higher-time pilots seem to notice, is that after a few dozen (or hundred) flights the quantitative metrics don't matter so much any more - it's more a matter of finding new challenges, new experience and fun things to renew your hobby, rather than turning X into X+Y.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11
DVA650
Senior Captain, B767-300
E-MAIL

Joined on June 28 2002
Online Double Century Club
Quatercentenary Club

"IRS NAV ONLY"
Lynchburg, VA USA

466 legs, 2,117.4 hours
301 legs, 1,436.8 hours online
163 legs, 781.4 hours ACARS
6 legs, 30.6 hours event
 Posted onPost created on April 21 2010 07:07 ET by Chuck Gehman
Luke is very correct. If you want to add your FSP "comments" I'll read them when approving your flight (if your in a 767) but I will not "grade" you on what FSP reports. Check my logbook, started doing just the same recently. Had one "horrible" flight with FSP recently all due to factors completely out of my control during a group event. The long holds, guessing at a flight length for a group flight, etc all played part. Was one of my best landings ever however! Total visual, no-ILS hand flew her in from about 3000' Also I had to make a right turn "expeditiously" at 3000' to avoid an "aluminum shower" thanks to some overloaded ATC (that caught it at about 2nm) with one of our great guys here at DVA. FSP did not notice that but did notice I was "late" and they had to "wait on the ground" for too long getting out of KATL.....hehe I did to!!


DVA7498
Senior Captain, B737-800
OLP
E-MAIL

Joined on July 05 2009
Quatercentenary Club
Online Quadruple Century Club

"ETOPS " Engines Turn Or Passengers Swim""
Loganville, GA USA

421 legs, 1,597.8 hours
401 legs, 1,552.0 hours online
416 legs, 1,583.7 hours ACARS
39 legs, 123.8 hours event
 Posted onPost created on April 21 2010 15:25 ET by Gerhardt Poku
I think he wants a flight comment system like, unstable approach, overspeed, landing too right of centerline, excessive takeoff pitch, etc. Not sure if that what he basically is asking

Gerhardt Poku

Senior Captain, B737-800
DVA5919
Captain, MD-11

Joined on May 13 2008
Everett Century Club
50 State Club
Commuter Conquest
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Quincentenary Club

"...and don't call me Shirley"
Hillsboro, OR USA

507 legs, 1,438.9 hours
4 legs, 3.7 hours online
506 legs, 1,436.4 hours ACARS
 Posted onPost created on April 25 2010 23:30 ET by Jack Vogel
I'm glad for the philosophical approach you've taken, this VA is the most balanced
one in existence that I am aware of. FSPax can be fun, but also can be a pain, I would
not impose it on any one. Also, I have been in VA's that have salary and frankly I could
never understand the point, there is never anything to do with it anyway smile The only
place where the monetary thing has made sense is Flight Sim Economy, but that's a
completely different kettle of fish.

I know it is a tightrope to walk, making it fun for people with different goals and ambitions,
Luke and others making the choices have done such a great job, I applaud you all and
wish you continued success.

Jack Vogel

Captain, MD-11

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