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Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | PC Support | Trojan horses
AFV274
Captain, B747-400

Joined on November 14 2009
International Tourist

"Do you wonder?"
NZ

80 legs, 183.4 hours
8 legs, 11.3 hours online
80 legs, 183.4 hours ACARS
200 legs, 363.5 hours total
Posted onPost created on May 13 2010 01:09 ET by Phillip Brown
Hey guys, lately my anti-virus has been giving me some faring harsh stuff. It started a few days ago i've picked up a Trojan horse somehow has goten into my systeam.
Now AVG managed to put this in the "virus vault" and i've sniced removed this but now when i log into my side of the computer AVG pops saying it's picked up another Trojan horse and sometimes my normal AVG scans picks it up as well i've been removing them one by one but they keep coming, why is this? i don't have any screen shots at the moment and have no idea what my computer specs are either, all i know is the name; NEC Versa A2100. Untouched (with like Cards etc)

Thanks!

Phillip Brown

Captain, B747-400
DVA1029
Captain, A320

Joined on January 06 2003
Stage 1 Jet Century Club
Quatercentenary Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Online Quadruple Century Club

"Take a walk on the wild side"
Wettingen, Aargau Switzerland

444 legs, 1,020.8 hours
415 legs, 965.3 hours online
398 legs, 922.6 hours ACARS
1 legs, 3.1 hours event
482 legs, 1,087.3 hours total
Posted onPost created on May 13 2010 03:08 ET by Robert Vermeulen
I would advice, try a "good" virusscanner. At my humble opinion is AVG not one of them. Mayby it's an newer type horse wich AVG doesn't recognize because free scanners normally use older virusdefinitions.

My 2 C smile

Robert Vermeulen

Captain, A320
AFV289
First Officer, A330-200

Joined on May 05 2010

Aachen, Nordrhein-Westfalen DE

5 legs, 9.2 hours
5 legs, 9.2 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on May 13 2010 04:01 ET by Markus Joppich
Good free scanners have current data just like any other scanner, too.

Google for hijackthis and see whether you can find the trojan horse this way (use auto feedback for that). If you could identify the beast, google for it and see how you can remove it.

Also a try worth is downloading new/alternate anti-virus software, disconnecting from internet, deinstalling your current and installing the other.

The point behinds trojans, viruses, malware is that people want to control your computer. If it was easy to remove, it wouldn't use that much, would it?

Just coming into my mind. Maybe windows saved the trojan with its restore capability. Where is AVG finding it?

Markus Joppich

First Officer, A330-200
AFV274
Captain, B747-400

Joined on November 14 2009
International Tourist

"Do you wonder?"
NZ

80 legs, 183.4 hours
8 legs, 11.3 hours online
80 legs, 183.4 hours ACARS
200 legs, 363.5 hours total
Posted onPost created on May 13 2010 05:18 ET by Phillip Brown
AVG found the first one in a half finished song my little brother had downloaded from Limewire a few weeks ago and the 2nd is coming from somewhere i can't locate cause every time i try find where it came from it's not too be found.

As for upgrading, there just isn't the $$$$ at the moment to go back to Nortan and i'll have to go too the 2011 in 6-7 months and isn't worth $70 for it.

I know there not ment to be simple but really my computer? all they'll find is 4GB of FS add-ons and maybe a old bank satment from 4 years ago.
Thanks

Phillip Brown

Captain, B747-400
AFV289
First Officer, A330-200

Joined on May 05 2010

Aachen, Nordrhein-Westfalen DE

5 legs, 9.2 hours
5 legs, 9.2 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on May 13 2010 07:40 ET by Markus Joppich
Hi Phillip,

no one ever said anything of buying software. That's definitely not necesary.

I personally really like http://www.eset.de/download/testversionen (it's in german, but i'm sure they also got an english version). Just install the test version, and delete it after 30 days. But do not install 2 antivirus software at the same time! If you want a completely free solution, check Avira Antivir. Works like a charme on all my computers.

Even if the trojan doesn't want your bank statements or whatever, it might include a keylogger and get access to your emails, or whatever. Furthermore, it might use your computer to spread malware. You don't want to be made responsible for infecting other computers ... and thus should intervene this by getting rid of the trojan.

Did hijackthis find anything? AVG should at least tell you where it found the virus/trojan. Are there any log-files?

Markus Joppich

First Officer, A330-200
DVA1029
Captain, A320

Joined on January 06 2003
Stage 1 Jet Century Club
Quatercentenary Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Online Quadruple Century Club

"Take a walk on the wild side"
Wettingen, Aargau Switzerland

444 legs, 1,020.8 hours
415 legs, 965.3 hours online
398 legs, 922.6 hours ACARS
1 legs, 3.1 hours event
482 legs, 1,087.3 hours total
Posted onPost created on May 13 2010 11:47 ET by Robert Vermeulen
Markus Joppich wrote:

Good free scanners have current data just like any other scanner, too


Hi Philip

I know a guy who's working for Avira (antivir) in Germany, who says that the free scanners has older/not complete definitions available. This doesnt mean you must buy a pay-version. It only COULD mean, a difference in protection wich does not have to mean something dangerous.


Robert Vermeulen

Captain, A320
DVA1933
Senior Captain, B727-200

Joined on September 19 2004
Triple Century Club

Monterrey, NL Mexico

357 legs, 860.4 hours
72 legs, 132.3 hours online
255 legs, 668.3 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.9 hours event
Posted onPost created on May 13 2010 12:00 ET by David Eugenio Gomez
Go here:
http://www.spywareinfoforum.com/index.php

They'll help you get rid of your virus... wink



AFV289
First Officer, A330-200

Joined on May 05 2010

Aachen, Nordrhein-Westfalen DE

5 legs, 9.2 hours
5 legs, 9.2 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on May 13 2010 14:58 ET by Markus Joppich
Robert Vermeulen wrote:

Markus Joppich wrote:

Good free scanners have current data just like any other scanner, too


Hi Philip

I know a guy who's working for Avira (antivir) in Germany, who says that the free scanners has older/not complete definitions available. This doesnt mean you must buy a pay-version. It only COULD mean, a difference in protection wich does not have to mean something dangerous.


Interesting info. From what I've read everywhere it seemed as if both versions were almost identical ... interesting. Might have to think about getting NOD32 then *g*

Markus Joppich

First Officer, A330-200
DVA4965
Senior Captain, B737-800

Joined on September 07 2007
Online Quintuple Century Club
Million Mile Club
Millennium Club
Everett Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Saratoga Springs, UT USA

1,195 legs, 3,500.8 hours
566 legs, 825.5 hours online
1,174 legs, 3,437.6 hours ACARS
26 legs, 51.6 hours event
Posted onPost created on May 14 2010 00:14 ET by Alan Cluff
You may also need to delete a restore point or two if that virus condition was captured during the creation of a restore point. Google how to boot to safe mode and clean up a restore point.

Alan Cluff

Senior Captain, B737-800
AFV274
Captain, B747-400

Joined on November 14 2009
International Tourist

"Do you wonder?"
NZ

80 legs, 183.4 hours
8 legs, 11.3 hours online
80 legs, 183.4 hours ACARS
200 legs, 363.5 hours total
Posted onPost created on May 14 2010 00:59 ET by Phillip Brown
Ok, i got onto my computer just now and AVG poped up saying threat removed, i i could see where it cam from and it's saying it coming from my MSN portal.

Thats pretty bad ain't it?

Phillip Brown

Captain, B747-400
DVA4614
Captain, CRJ-200

Joined on February 25 2007
Stage 1 Jet Century Club
Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Madison Heights, MI USA

150 legs, 302.0 hours
3 legs, 4.2 hours online
135 legs, 276.1 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on May 15 2010 18:33 ET by Peter Tambornini
try downloading microsoft security essentials. It is free and i have cleaned many computers with this program! Very well worth a try just to do a scan and check for any problems!

Peter Tambornini

Captain, CRJ-200
DVA6983
Captain, B737-800

Joined on February 07 2009
Century Club

""Can't, never did anything..""
Phoenix, AZ USA

125 legs, 233.4 hours
4 legs, 7.2 hours online
125 legs, 233.4 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on May 17 2010 17:02 ET by Dale Westlund
I would also stay away from limewire.. File sharing software is very notorious for trojans, and spyware of all kinds. Just a little FYI.. Hope you get it all cleaned up.




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