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DVA6983
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Posted onPost created on May 28 2010 16:10 ET by Dale Westlund

Hey all.. I was just wondering if a move from my core 2 duo 6600 to a quad core would enhance my performance all that much? And will it work with my current nVIDIA mo/bo?

Dale Westlund (DVA6983)

DVA2541
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Posted onPost created on May 30 2010 02:00 ET by John Swisher

FSX YES FS9 NO

John Swisher

Captain, B737-800

DVA5919
Captain, MD-11

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Posted onPost created on May 30 2010 13:48 ET by Jack Vogel

John didn't answer the critical part, will it work with your motherboard, and without telling
us what it is that would be rather difficult smile

But that's ok, its YOUR hardware, get out your
manual and check, or if you can't find the manual google the info.

It might help but I doubt it would help that much to just add a couple cores onto the same
hardware, so same speed bus, same amount of memory, same video. I would save my money
for an upgrade that's worth doing.

Jack Vogel

Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on May 30 2010 18:22 ET by Dale Westlund

Hey Jack. Nice to be back and nice to talk to you again. My mother board is an nForce 680i SLI and I'm using a GForce 8800GTX video card and 4GB of RAM on windows 7 32 bit OS.. Don't know if this is enough info. Another question for you too. Do you know if there's a way to make windows 7 recognize more than 2.75GB of RAM? I used the 3GB switch on my XP 32 bit but have'nt been able to find anything on doing that with 7.. Thanks.

Dale Westlund (DVA6983)

DVA7702
Captain, B747-400

Joined on August 25 2009

"If it ain't Boeing, I'm not going!"
Scandinavia

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Posted onPost created on May 30 2010 20:30 ET by Tommy Hansen

Just a move from 2 cores to 4 will not show on your FPS.
It is and will be for now at least, the CPU speed... that determines you performance in FS.
I made a test once, I had both my E8600 and Q9400 and at 3.8 gHz in the same machine.(not a the same time of course)
I experienced little or no difference. +/- 0-3 Fps and maybe a slight less stutter on Quad in FSX. No change in FS9.
Then again, with my E8600 at 4.5 I gained 10-12 FPS both in FSX and FS9,due to the higher speed.
The advantage with Quad vs Dual is better multi task performance and performance in programs that fully support multi cores.
I of course did this test with exact same parameters,route,airport,addons,weather etc.

Tommy Hansen (DVA7702)

DVA8532
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Joined on April 19 2010

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Posted onPost created on May 31 2010 03:57 ET by Aaron Taylor

I moved to an i7 system at the start of the year, and so far its great for FSX, smooth as silk. However as the others said its probably worth saving for something that will give more, as a dual core at the same speed as quad won't make much difference. As for the memory, the only option I know of is to swap to 64bit, and since you have 4 gigs of RAM that shouldn't be a problem.

Aaron Taylor

First Officer, B747-400

DVA7899
Captain, B737-800

Joined on October 29 2009
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Posted onPost created on May 31 2010 11:08 ET by Skylar Macminn

You need to differentiate between the i7 and a Core2Quad. An i7 is a TRUE quad core, whereas the Core2Quad is simply TWO Core2Duos slapped together, so effectively you are using 2 cores. If your loads get high enough, then the first two talk to the other two and tell it to use the 2nd core2duo. This causes things to slow down, and doesn't tell your games that you have *as much* CPU than you really do. The i7 is a true quad core (4 separate cores apposed to two core2duos) so it splits data, and runs more efficiently.

Skylar Macminn (DVA7899)

Posted onPost created on June 01 2010 05:48 ET by Dale Westlund

Ok thanks guys.. My intel 6600 duo core is only 2.40GHz. Maybe a new CPU at 3.0GHz would be a help. Can't afford to do a complete rebuild right now. Just spent 1400.00 two years ago on the tower I have now so that will have to wait a while.

Dale Westlund (DVA6983)

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Posted onPost created on June 01 2010 14:49 ET by Luke Kolin

Skylar Macminn wrote:

You need to differentiate between the i7 and a Core2Quad. An i7 is a TRUE quad core, whereas the Core2Quad is simply TWO Core2Duos slapped together, so effectively you are using 2 cores.

Not at all. You have four cores. How they're packaged on the die is really irrelevant.

If your loads get high enough, then the first two talk to the other two and tell it to use the 2nd core2duo. This causes things to slow down, and doesn't tell your games that you have *as much* CPU than you really do..

Completely incorrect. How many cores get used on the Q series chips is entirely a function of the Windows scheduler and the underlying program architecture, not anything on the CPU itself. Perhaps you're confusing this with the TurboBoost feature on the i5 and i7?

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

DVA4295
Captain, B767-300

Joined on April 05 2007
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Stratford, CT USA

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Posted onPost created on June 01 2010 18:40 ET by John Alusik

I have 2 things to add here, from what I see in a quick 1 minute look at newegg, if you want to upgrade to a quad core, you can only get a core 2 quad since an i7 is a completely different socket, which would require a new motherboard to upgrade to an i7.
Second take a look at this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-core-i5-phenom-ii,2620-7.html

There's an interesting note regarding the table, it is likely you will only see a noticeable difference if you new cpu is 2 levels above the previous. I upgrade from an AMD 5600 to a Phenom II 955, which is 4 levels higher, and i do see a pretty decent difference.

John Alusik

Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on June 01 2010 19:02 ET by Tommy Hansen

I will say your best bang for buck to upgrade your system would be an E8500: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036

Tommy Hansen (DVA7702)

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