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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 30 2010 16:20 ET by Jordan Seymour
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I spent about an hour flying from RIC to JFK using a CRJ-200. I lined up with the runway about 200 feet in the air with an airspeed of about 50 knots. I hit the runway and then it said that I crashed and it showed my wheels inside the ground - litteraly inside the ground. The only way that would happen would be if I was going 100+ knots. So, I basically wasted an hour flying to JFK for nothing. Anyone know why this happened? Maybe it was my landing...
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DVA7956
Captain, A320
OLP
Joined on November 05 2009
50 State Club
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
Everett 250 Club
Quatercentenary Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"Swing on a star"
Manassas, VA USA
478 legs, 905.6 hours
259 legs,
494.7 hours online
473 legs,
893.0 hours ACARS
70 legs,
123.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 30 2010 17:02 ET by Scott Bradley
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Some people say a landing is a controled crash. How about we take the crash part out the equations. There are realism settings in FSX where you can turn off collisions. This way your plane will just bounce back into the air. 
Scott BradleyCaptain, A320
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DVA1933
Senior Captain, B727-200
Joined on September 19 2004
Triple Century Club
Monterrey, NL Mexico
357 legs, 860.4 hours
72 legs,
132.3 hours online
255 legs,
668.3 hours ACARS
1 legs,
1.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 30 2010 17:02 ET by David Eugenio Gomez
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Well, the approach speed of a CRJ200 is around 120 knots... 50 is too low, as is 100 
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 30 2010 17:05 ET by Jordan Seymour
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Well, I'd like to use scott's idea and remove crashed altogether. Will it still do the splashes or will it remove those too? Lol, I could just drive across the waterway that is between Manhattan and the rest of NY and drive onto the runway like a hover craft =D
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DVA7956
Captain, A320
OLP
Joined on November 05 2009
50 State Club
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
Everett 250 Club
Quatercentenary Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"Swing on a star"
Manassas, VA USA
478 legs, 905.6 hours
259 legs,
494.7 hours online
473 legs,
893.0 hours ACARS
70 legs,
123.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 30 2010 17:18 ET by Scott Bradley
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LOL - ACARS may not recognize hover craft, so not sure it solves your problem. At least you wheels won't get stuck in the ground.
Scott BradleyCaptain, A320
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 30 2010 17:24 ET by Jordan Seymour
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Lol, I could land without any gear at all.
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DVA4031
Captain, B757-200
Joined on January 20 2007
50 State Club
B757 100 Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Million Mile Club
Millennium Club
Port Orchard, WA
1,186 legs, 3,343.2 hours
1,177 legs,
3,327.8 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 30 2010 17:33 ET by Quinlan Cao
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David Eugenio Gomez wrote:
Well, the approach speed of a CRJ200 is around 120 knots... 50 is too low, as is 100 :)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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DVA5929
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP
Joined on May 10 2008
Million Mile Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Everett 500 Club
Globetrotter
Six Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"It's buried under a big W!"
TX USA
651 legs, 3,806.1 hours
472 legs,
2,922.9 hours online
565 legs,
3,319.5 hours ACARS
8 legs,
18.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 30 2010 18:14 ET by Nicholas Carpenter
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Quinlan Cao wrote:
David Eugenio Gomez wrote:
Well, the approach speed of a CRJ200 is around 120 knots... 50 is too low, as is 100 :)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+2
Nicholas CarpenterSenior Captain, B747-400
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 31 2010 00:56 ET by Jordan Seymour
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Well, I crashed the same plane on my approach to CVG in a similar timeframe, only I had crashes off that time. I had my speed set to 120 and I crashed the same way I did the first time. Anyone care to tell me why there's 4 hours of my life out the toilet because of crashed that were caused by false physics?
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DVA2701
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP
Joined on November 21 2005
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Nine Century
Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Denver, CO
1,041 legs, 3,309.1 hours
997 legs,
3,153.7 hours online
1,020 legs,
3,263.5 hours ACARS
21 legs,
38.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 31 2010 01:15 ET by Dean Shultz
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False physics? I am 99.9999% sure it is pilot error. Are you helping yourself by flying the localizer and glideslope down to the runway?
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 31 2010 01:24 ET by Jordan Seymour
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Erm... no?
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DVA2701
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP
Joined on November 21 2005
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Nine Century
Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Denver, CO
1,041 legs, 3,309.1 hours
997 legs,
3,153.7 hours online
1,020 legs,
3,263.5 hours ACARS
21 legs,
38.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 31 2010 01:50 ET by Dean Shultz
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Don't start on the CRJ. Go through the microsoft lessons that teach you how to fly before you try and log a flight. You're just setting yourself up for failure and it may lead you to quit before even scratching the surface of this hobby.
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DVA7498
Senior Captain, B737-800
OLP
E-MAIL
Joined on July 05 2009
Quatercentenary Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
"ETOPS " Engines Turn Or Passengers Swim""
Loganville, GA USA
421 legs, 1,597.8 hours
401 legs,
1,552.0 hours online
416 legs,
1,583.7 hours ACARS
39 legs,
123.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 03:22 ET by Gerhardt Poku
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Jordan Seymour wrote:
Erm... no?
Not to be a nuisance but I took a peep at your log book your landing rates are quite hard and I mean real hard. Now think about it if a real CRJ landed at those rates do you think the plane will be fully intact on the runway. I also agree with Dean its not Fs just start small and work your way up theres nothing wrong with a little practice.
Gerhardt PokuSenior Captain, B737-800
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DVA4265
Captain, B777-200
OLP
Joined on March 18 2007
Online Triple Century Club
Quatercentenary Club
"WE BE DELTA, Flossin n' Flyin "
Phoenix, AZ USA
430 legs, 2,188.7 hours
398 legs,
2,061.4 hours online
388 legs,
2,045.8 hours ACARS
5 legs,
33.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 06:02 ET by Trevir Maidel
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False Physics ? are you a wizard ?
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DVA3050
Captain, A330-300
Joined on April 13 2006
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
"go fast or go home"
Boston, MA USA
306 legs, 893.4 hours
264 legs,
785.7 hours online
274 legs,
793.3 hours ACARS
28 legs,
70.7 hours event
842 legs, 2,782.9 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 08:26 ET by Michael Schlabowske
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Also just looked at your two pirep.... your averaging 3.4 FPS!!! now wonder you cant land, your landings would improve if you could actually have a smooth flying sim. Id say practice might not do you any good if your getting frames like that. ive been doing this for a long while and if my FPS drop below 13-15 FPS even I have a hard time landing smoothly. Increase your FPS and my guess is youll have a little better results. Also FSX is a FPS hog, you might want to go back to FS( and get better FPS 3.5 FPS, no wonder your having issues......But Im also +1 on the recomendation that you go through the in game training. Those landings you have so far arent landings but crashes. Good luck 
Michael SchlabowskeCaptain, A330-300
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 11:03 ET by Jordan Seymour
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How do you increase FPS?
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DVA7498
Senior Captain, B737-800
OLP
E-MAIL
Joined on July 05 2009
Quatercentenary Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
"ETOPS " Engines Turn Or Passengers Swim""
Loganville, GA USA
421 legs, 1,597.8 hours
401 legs,
1,552.0 hours online
416 legs,
1,583.7 hours ACARS
39 legs,
123.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 11:23 ET by Gerhardt Poku
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Better computer basically. Or you can lower settings like traffic, autogen, etc
Gerhardt PokuSenior Captain, B737-800
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 11:23 ET by Jordan Seymour
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Erm... ok, I'll see what I can do with the settings.
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 11:31 ET by Jordan Seymour
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Ok, I lowered graphics and traffic and I'm about to leave for Nashville from Cincinnati. Lets hope it fixed the problem.
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DVA8562
Captain, B747-400
Joined on April 30 2010
50 State Club
Double Century Club
"...and I was gonna learn to fly. HC"
Prescott Valley, AZ
230 legs, 449.5 hours
229 legs,
448.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 11:36 ET by Robert Delorenzo
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Jordan Seymour wrote:
How do you increase FPS?
Uninstall FSX...and Install FS 2004 Century of Flight (fs9)...just kidding...kinda'...
I've also took a peek at you log book...and your "flight plans" speak volumes...
Jordan...may I ask how long you have been attempting to flightsim?...It seems to me that you are somewhat of a novice...my advice to you is to "hit the books"...hard...on aviation in general and more specifically...the FSX manual...technically FS is a game...but it really does require ALOT of study to "play" it...especially in regards to flying for a VA...Also, the manual will make suggestions on how to improve your FSX performance...
However...it just may be that your PC does not have the power to run FSX smoothly...what are your system's specs?
Robert DelorenzoCaptain, B747-400
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 11:39 ET by Jordan Seymour
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Erm... I'm not sure what they are, I'll have to go look.
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 11:43 ET by Jordan Seymour
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Erm... I'm not sure how to find out what they are...
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DVA8562
Captain, B747-400
Joined on April 30 2010
50 State Club
Double Century Club
"...and I was gonna learn to fly. HC"
Prescott Valley, AZ
230 legs, 449.5 hours
229 legs,
448.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 11:48 ET by Robert Delorenzo
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Jordan Seymour wrote:
Erm... I'm not sure how to find out what they are...
My OS is XP so for me it's...start menu/control panel/performance and maintenance/system/general...
Robert DelorenzoCaptain, B747-400
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 13:25 ET by Jordan Seymour
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I changed the settings on FSX and my landings are getting better.
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DVA3382
Senior Captain, B717-200
OLP, COMM
Joined on July 26 2006
Event Half Century Club
50 State Club
Globetrotter
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Kangaroo Club
Three Million Mile Club
Tri-Millennium Club
Online Seven Century Club
Everett 1500 Club
White Knuckles Club
"Go For Launch"
Houston, TX
3,439 legs, 9,084.9 hours
720 legs,
1,205.6 hours online
3,377 legs,
8,925.7 hours ACARS
61 legs,
145.0 hours event
0 legs dispatched, 6.1
hours
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 15:02 ET by Ryan Daugherty
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It's not the game causing you to crash... I believe it to be operator error. Keep you speed well above 120 and you shouldn't crash.
RD
Ryan DaughertySenior Captain, B717-200
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DVA7128
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL
Joined on March 27 2009
50 State Club
Everett 250 Club
Piranha Club
Quatercentenary Club
Online Double Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"Up, up, and away!!!"
West Palm Beach, FL USA
466 legs, 1,233.4 hours
258 legs,
727.1 hours online
462 legs,
1,228.0 hours ACARS
21 legs,
50.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 16 2010 16:24 ET by Alberto Franco
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| Practice..practice and more practice..trust me, im only 17 with NO real life flying experience, nothing, i started flightsimming since i was 12, at first i couldnt even line up to the runway, now i can land, i dont have beautiful landings but the keep improving. so just practice, and raise ur FPS
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DVA8946
Captain, CRJ-200
E-MAIL
Joined on August 19 2010
"Fly to Live, Live to Fly!"
Sefton UK
33 legs, 28.8 hours
4 legs,
6.8 hours online
17 legs,
12.0 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 04 2010 07:10 ET by Iain Henry
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Jordan, One word... STALL
Iain HenryCaptain, CRJ-200
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DVA7520
Captain, B737-800
Joined on July 10 2009
50 State Club
Six Century Club
Online Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Southeastern United States
703 legs, 784.3 hours
100 legs,
105.6 hours online
702 legs,
783.3 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 04 2010 08:25 ET by Paul Faria
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Jordan, Let me echo all the advise you have gotten so far. Knowledge and practice will make you a good pilot. Here is a technique I use anytime I fly a new aircraft that I am unfamiliar with. When on final, (5-10 miles out from your favorite airport) save the flight. You can then at anytime go to that saved flight and practice your landings. So instead of investing multiple hours to discover that you don't know how to land, you can practive the landings and approaches over and over until you get it down. You will not have ACARS to measure your vertical speed (decent rate) but most aircraft have a guage that will give you a semi accurate indication of your decent rate that you can use to determine how well you are doing.
I believe all the manuals talk about flying the aircraft onto the runway. Believe this. You cant fly these like you would a Cessna. Hope this helps. Don't give up, you will master this!!!!
Paul FariaCaptain, B737-800
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DVA5929
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP
Joined on May 10 2008
Million Mile Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Everett 500 Club
Globetrotter
Six Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"It's buried under a big W!"
TX USA
651 legs, 3,806.1 hours
472 legs,
2,922.9 hours online
565 legs,
3,319.5 hours ACARS
8 legs,
18.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 04 2010 09:20 ET by Nicholas Carpenter
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Paul, you can use ACARS to collect data, just check the "This is a practice flight box"
Nicholas CarpenterSenior Captain, B747-400
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DVA8286
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL
Joined on February 08 2010
Double Century Club
Northeastern United States
217 legs, 818.3 hours
4 legs,
15.8 hours online
216 legs,
815.7 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 08 2010 19:34 ET by Sebastian Villamil
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When I first started, I didn't even know how to set many auto-pilot commands, and didn't even know what an ILS runway is. But with practice (lots of it), and actually watching like Air Crash Investigation(amazing how crashes can teach you many things) I began to improve. I'm 14 and I'm looking to get my pilots license soon. So practice makes permanent
Sebastian VillamilCaptain, B737-800
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DVA7577
First Officer, B777-200
OLP
Joined on July 18 2009
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
Everett 250 Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Buffalo, NY USA
334 legs, 637.3 hours
29 legs,
47.8 hours online
332 legs,
629.7 hours ACARS
5 legs,
9.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 08 2010 21:07 ET by Jesse Kovacs
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Jordan Seymour wrote:
an airspeed of about 50 knots........ Anyone know why this happened?
You fell out of the sky!
Jesse KovacsFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA5212
Captain, B757-200
Joined on June 05 2007
Century Club
"Flaps? 25. Gear? Down and Locked? Coffee? Hot."
Brooklyn, NY USA
118 legs, 200.1 hours
36 legs,
72.4 hours online
116 legs,
197.2 hours ACARS
1 legs,
10.0 hours event
713 legs, 1,390.5 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
October 19 2010 17:55 ET by James Lightbody
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Jesse Kovacs wrote:
Jordan Seymour wrote:
an airspeed of about 50 knots........ Anyone know why this happened?
You fell out of the sky! :P
+1
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DVA364
Captain, A330-300
Joined on October 23 2001
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett Century Club
Double Century Club
"COWBOY UP!"
Carrollton, GA
278 legs, 510.7 hours
5 legs,
6.5 hours online
238 legs,
393.0 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
October 21 2010 11:25 ET by Ralph Templeman
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a cessna 172 stalls @55 knots cj's are a lot bigger and heavier. hope those passengers you had on board weren't hurt>? 
Ralph TemplemanCaptain, A330-300
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DVA9099
First Officer, A330-300
Joined on May 09 2010
"I believe I can fly! Oh wait, I am!"
Bremen, DE
10 legs, 31.8 hours
9 legs,
29.5 hours online
10 legs,
31.8 hours ACARS
3 legs,
11.3 hours event
17 legs, 81.1 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
October 26 2010 13:27 ET by Nikitas Makarov
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I got my knowledge off youtube! Its great and you get to see many different ways of landing a plane.
Nikitas MakarovFirst Officer, A330-300
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DVA8986
First Officer, EMB-120
Joined on August 23 2010
Northeastern United States
3 legs, 0.9 hours
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Posted onPost created on
November 28 2010 10:48 ET by Joseph Penn
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The landing crashes hapen to me to.
Joseph PennFirst Officer, EMB-120
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