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Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | PC Support | This is very sad... MOD Edit Language
DVA8562
Captain, B747-400

Joined on April 30 2010
50 State Club
Double Century Club

"...and I was gonna learn to fly. HC"
Prescott Valley, AZ

230 legs, 449.5 hours
229 legs, 448.1 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on August 15 2010 00:54 ET by Robert Delorenzo
For me anyway...my computer is on the fritz...the dedicated drive with all my FS installations has "given up the ghost"...for good...so I may not be able to continue my FS career for quite a while...if ever...so I will be asking for a leave of absence...I will miss the DVA community greatly...

frown frown frown frown


P.S. You were right Nicholas...the Queen is not one to triffle with...or cheated on...evidentially... rofl

You take care now...Nicholas... smile

Robert Delorenzo

Captain, B747-400
DVA7620
First Officer, B777-200
OLP

Joined on July 21 2009

"Dream"
NJ USA

66 legs, 105.0 hours
55 legs, 89.5 hours online
63 legs, 99.1 hours ACARS
16 legs, 31.4 hours event
Posted onPost created on August 15 2010 03:37 ET by Neil Sarna
Robert I'll miss u..... But u can still be on the site while not flying. Ur active as long as u log in..... Hope u get ur computer diced or a new one soon


DVA7956
Captain, A320
OLP

Joined on November 05 2009
50 State Club
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
Everett 250 Club
Quatercentenary Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary

"Swing on a star"
Manassas, VA USA

478 legs, 905.6 hours
259 legs, 494.7 hours online
473 legs, 893.0 hours ACARS
70 legs, 123.9 hours event
Posted onPost created on August 15 2010 07:55 ET by Scott Bradley
Unacceptable. Appologize to the Queen - make whatever deals you need to, make it right. Get bonus money from the parents of the kids you teach. Tell the parents you want a computer or you'll tell their kids that pi - 2.14; and for the advanced placement kids, you'll tell'em them the Universe may not be closed. Leave of Absence - denied. eek

Scott Bradley

Captain, A320
DVA8622
First Officer, B777-200

Joined on April 14 2010
Century Club

"We're off, like a heard of turtles."
Commack, NY USA

189 legs, 783.0 hours
182 legs, 751.4 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on August 15 2010 09:37 ET by Ethan Olshever
Well, Bye! No, just kidding. I'm going to miss you Robert!

Ethan Olshever

First Officer, B777-200
DVA8308
Captain, B747-400

Joined on February 12 2010
Century Club
50 State Club

Eastern Canada

180 legs, 481.5 hours
18 legs, 44.0 hours online
172 legs, 440.6 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.5 hours event
Posted onPost created on August 15 2010 09:49 ET by Kevin Chauvin
My uncle who is an IT tech told me that if you put a harddrive in the freezer for a while and then run it again, it might work for a short time. Worth a shot.
DVA7899
Captain, B737-800

Joined on October 29 2009
Online Double Century Club
Long Beach Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary

"PMDG or go home :)"
Springfield, MO USA

304 legs, 743.8 hours
283 legs, 682.2 hours online
303 legs, 740.0 hours ACARS
30 legs, 47.9 hours event
Posted onPost created on August 15 2010 11:01 ET by Skylar Macminn
Kevin Chauvin wrote:

My uncle who is an IT tech told me that if you put a harddrive in the freezer for a while and then run it again, it might work for a short time. Worth a shot.


I've heard this one as well. Stick it in for ~30 minutes, you get at the most ~10 minutes to pull data off of it.



DVA5929
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP

Joined on May 10 2008
Million Mile Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Everett 500 Club
Globetrotter
Six Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary

"It's buried under a big W!"
TX USA

651 legs, 3,806.1 hours
472 legs, 2,922.9 hours online
565 legs, 3,319.5 hours ACARS
8 legs, 18.9 hours event
Posted onPost created on August 15 2010 11:58 ET by Nicholas Carpenter
frown frown frown

I'm so sorry to hear that Robert. I hope you will eventually make it back into the air (I'm sure you will find a way). In the mean time I hope to see you around the site at least, what would we do without your very individualised sense of humor? rolleyes

I will keep your 747's APU running until you get back so she won't be to cold and dark upon your return. wink

Keep the blue side Bob!

Nicholas

Nicholas Carpenter

Senior Captain, B747-400
DVA6586
First Officer, B767-300

Joined on November 03 2008
Century Club

"I am serious & don't call me Shirley"
Southeastern United States

165 legs, 390.6 hours
160 legs, 379.2 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on August 16 2010 08:51 ET by Mike Holmes
Kevin Chauvin wrote:

My uncle who is an IT tech told me that if you put a harddrive in the freezer for a while and then run it again, it might work for a short time. Worth a shot.


Having been a network administrator/IT Tech for more than twenty years, I can confirm this works in at least 75% of the cases. The reason is that the most common cause of hard drive failure is that the bearings start wearing out. They heat up, metal expands, and the hard drive doesn't work. From room temperature it takes only a few seconds to reach that "critical" heat phase. Now if you chill the hard drive, you're starting from a point way below room temperature, so it takes longer (about ten minutes, typically, like Skylar said) to reach the point at which it fails.

Now one thing I'd point out: I would put the drive in the refrigerator, NOT the freezer. I've found that while the cold trick works, you don't want it too cold. I've had it not work - and even make the problem worse - if the drive is too cold. I don't know why too cold is bad, I haven't read any literature on it. I do, however, have a theory: hard drives heat up quickly (fact) and if you start with a drive that's too cold the sudden temperature change can damage it. Sort of like freezing a piece of metal and then dropping it into boiling water. Not a good thing.

Hope this helps.


Mike Holmes

First Officer, B767-300
DVA5162
Captain, B767-300

Joined on October 15 2007
DVA Five-Year Anniversary

"We live and die by the ADI"
Wexford Ireland

89 legs, 447.4 hours
86 legs, 438.8 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on August 16 2010 11:39 ET by James Webster
An IT guy in work also suggested the cold approach but also suggested to leave the side of the pc open and if possible face a fan towards the drive to help keep it cool. Might buy you some time to save your data.

James

James Webster

Captain, B767-300
DVA3794
Senior Captain, A320
OLP, 737-ATP

Joined on December 03 2006
50 State Club
Globetrotter
US Coastal Club
Events Quadruple Century
US Mountaineer Club
Everett Bi-Millennium Club
Tri-Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Three Million Mile Club
Online Thirty Century

"volando libero......."
Antarctica

3,459 legs, 8,141.9 hours
3,131 legs, 7,039.5 hours online
3,251 legs, 7,332.7 hours ACARS
478 legs, 964.8 hours event
65 legs dispatched, 72.4 hours
Posted onPost created on August 16 2010 13:20 ET by Vincenzo Musumeci
Totally unacceptable Robert !

You don't give up in two second a community like ours just because your hard drive is fried.
I'm sure that somehow you can solve this problem and in the meantime still be around.
And if you really miss the flying so much (understandable) we leave 15 minutes away from each other and we can arrange a flight together.....but keep in mind that I'm the Captain !




DVA3952
Captain, MD-88

Joined on September 07 2006
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"Airbus, Mcdonnell Douglas"
Chicago, IL USA

85 legs, 161.3 hours
51 legs, 106.0 hours online
77 legs, 141.3 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on August 16 2010 14:29 ET by Alex Jevdic
Robert you can still post in the forums, my pc is currently not cooperating with FS at all and yet I'm still here. And if its just a hard-drive simply pop a new one in.


DVA8269
Captain, B747-400

Joined on January 28 2010
Million Mile Club
Six Century Club
Globetrotter

Western Canada

651 legs, 2,930.0 hours
650 legs, 2,925.7 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on August 16 2010 19:49 ET by Kent Harpham
Don't give up, Man! I've blown up two dedicated FS drives before. It takes an afternoon or less to rebuild a new one - only a couple hours to build a new one to get back on DVA and flying with the big boys! Throwing one's hands in the air in defeat is non-acceptable, Man! But that's just me - if I can't put in at least one flight per day (VFR, IFR, whatever), I go all buggy and messed up.


DVA364
Captain, A330-300

Joined on October 23 2001
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett Century Club
Double Century Club

"COWBOY UP!"
Carrollton, GA

276 legs, 507.7 hours
5 legs, 6.5 hours online
236 legs, 390.0 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on August 17 2010 12:23 ET by Ralph Templeman
Robert, you will be missed...Hurry back soon. you know that you can't stayaway for very long...you'll find a way back.

Ralph Templeman

Captain, A330-300
AFV292
Senior Captain, A380-800

Joined on March 02 2009
GVA 5 Year Anniversary
50 State Club
Diplomatic Mission
Globetrotter Extraordinaire
Flying Colonel
Two Million Mile Club
Historical Five Hundred Club
Under African Skies

"Flying steadily onwards and upwards"
ZA

1,845 legs, 5,394.9 hours
1,833 legs, 5,371.5 hours ACARS
1,908 legs, 5,542.5 hours total
3 legs dispatched, 4.5 hours
Posted onPost created on August 24 2010 15:28 ET by Mark Stead
Yes-it's not the end of the world to have your hard drive fried-I've lost some over the years-it happens-just always keep backups of important data away from your pc,not even on your external drive, just in case that fries,and keep your installation discs ,etc,handy somewhere 'cos you never know...I've lost very important data from not doing this.Anways,get a new harddrive,load your stuff, and get on the horse again!


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