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DVA4989
Captain, MD-11

Joined on September 14 2007
Everett Century Club
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"All of us is just as dumb as none of us..."
Auburn, NE USA

340 legs, 1,195.5 hours
14 legs, 40.2 hours online
323 legs, 1,101.2 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on June 30 2011 01:28 ET by Mick Gabelmann

Curiosity and attention to detail got me on this one - just noticed that my last few PIREPs have had passenger counts in them.
First: is this some sort of tracking?
Second: does it correspond to payload loaded on the A/C or is it random?
Third: it's pretty cool but I never saw any NOTAM about it.
Fourth: is it related to a certain airline?
I could go on, but I won't. I'm just really curious as I just filed a PIREP and went to my logbook to verify everything was correct and noticed the extra line with passengers on it.

Thanks,

-Mick-

Mick Gabelmann (DVA4989)

DVA3931
Senior Captain, L-1011-100
OLP, COMM

Joined on January 19 2007
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"De oppresso liber"
Surry, ME

1,882 legs, 3,806.7 hours
478 legs, 767.8 hours online
1,107 legs, 1,674.5 hours ACARS
55 legs, 114.8 hours event
195 legs dispatched, 134.4 hours

Posted onPost created on June 30 2011 05:49 ET by Andrew Kaufmann

I think it is based on historic data - and Luke stuck it in there...pretty nice little background add in. If I am using FSPassengers, I usually put that info in my remarks - I haven't done it lately, so I'm not sure if that would affect those numbers.

Andrew Kaufmann (DVA3931)

DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
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"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA

2,317 legs, 9,330.6 hours
240 legs, 553.9 hours online
1,975 legs, 8,123.7 hours ACARS
75 legs, 196.3 hours event
2,353 legs, 9,465.5 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4 hours

Posted onPost created on June 30 2011 10:16 ET by Luke Kolin

The passenger load is related to a few things - the seat count on the airplane, the target load factor per airline, a random distribution and a rolling sine wave of seasonal fluctuation. Right now it's not serving any purpose, but with ACARS3 that might change. Consider it "highly experimental" right now, but I want to have it in place to generate 50,000 or so passenger loads to validate my algorithm.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on June 30 2011 11:44 ET by Andrew Kaufmann

Luke - would you consider letting pilots put in their own pax loads - based on if we utilize FSPassengers?

Andrew Kaufmann (DVA3931)

DVA9678
First Officer, B737-800
OLP

Joined on April 14 2011

Western United States

32 legs, 55.9 hours
10 legs, 18.2 hours online
32 legs, 55.9 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on June 30 2011 12:35 ET by Trevor Majors

Yes I'd like to be able to enter my own passenger load as well since I fly with FSpassengers

Trevor Majors

First Officer, B737-800

Posted onPost created on June 30 2011 13:23 ET by Mick Gabelmann

Ah fantastic! That sounds like a neat little experiment. Thanks for the responses. Yeah I had just seen it, so I went back in my logbook and it really only started a few days ago so I got curious. I like the idea - good call!

Clear skies to you all.

Mick Gabelmann (DVA4989)

DVA9571
Senior Captain, B767-300

Joined on March 10 2011
Everett 500 Club
Online Quintuple Century Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
Six Century Club

Miami, FL USA

612 legs, 2,333.0 hours
590 legs, 2,242.9 hours online
602 legs, 2,307.3 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on July 01 2011 22:51 ET by Bob Klemm

I'd like to know the number of pax before the flight. Helps with weight and balance, etc.

Bob Klemm

Senior Captain, B767-300

DVA238
Senior Captain, B737-800

Joined on August 15 2001
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Comer, GA

1,485 legs, 3,437.6 hours
235 legs, 435.3 hours online
1,124 legs, 2,800.8 hours ACARS
1 legs dispatched, 1.8 hours

Posted onPost created on July 02 2011 08:34 ET by Brittany Sventon

Well, there is a tool out there, that shows the passenger loads on the r/w Delta flights. I use this and FS Passengers to load my aircraft. With the QW/PSS 757 merge, I have access to more Delta aircraft, and rotate among the fleet.

Brittany Sventon (DVA238)

Posted onPost created on July 02 2011 14:40 ET by Bob Klemm

When you select a flight and save a , using "Find a Flight", it would be a nice addition if it would give you some pax and cargo numbers for that flight. As far as I can see, you never see the number of pax until you file your report. I could make up a number, but chances are, it wouldn't match. ;-)

Bob Klemm

Senior Captain, B767-300

DVA5929
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP

Joined on May 10 2008
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"It's buried under a big W!"
TX USA

651 legs, 3,806.1 hours
472 legs, 2,922.9 hours online
565 legs, 3,319.5 hours ACARS
8 legs, 18.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on July 02 2011 21:31 ET by Nicholas Carpenter

Brittany Sventon wrote:

Well, there is a tool out there, that shows the passenger loads on the r/w Delta flights. I use this and FS Passengers to load my aircraft. With the QW/PSS 757 merge, I have access to more Delta aircraft, and rotate among the fleet.

Which tool is this? Is there one for any of our other codeshares as well?

Nicholas Carpenter

Senior Captain, B747-400

DVA7577
First Officer, B777-200
OLP

Joined on July 18 2009
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
Everett 250 Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Buffalo, NY USA

334 legs, 637.3 hours
29 legs, 47.8 hours online
332 legs, 629.7 hours ACARS
5 legs, 9.4 hours event

Posted onPost created on July 03 2011 10:14 ET by Jesse Kovacs

Nicholas Carpenter wrote:

Brittany Sventon wrote:

Well, there is a tool out there, that shows the passenger loads on the r/w Delta flights. I use this and FS Passengers to load my aircraft. With the QW/PSS 757 merge, I have access to more Delta aircraft, and rotate among the fleet.

Which tool is this? Is there one for any of our other codeshares as well?

http://flightaware.com/insight/airline_stats.rvt

It gives you the load factors for a given route.

Jesse Kovacs

First Officer, B777-200

Posted onPost created on July 03 2011 12:39 ET by Mick Gabelmann

That's a neat little tool! Very interesting set of stats.

Mick Gabelmann (DVA4989)

Posted onPost created on July 03 2011 21:43 ET by Brittany Sventon

This is the tool that I use to calculate my Fs Passengers traffic.

http://cwsi.net/seats/dl/

Brittany Sventon (DVA238)

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