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DVA9677
Captain, B737-800
OLP

Joined on April 11 2011
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"American 1482, your APU is leaking baggage."
Kissimmee, FL USA

543 legs, 735.9 hours
247 legs, 299.2 hours online
538 legs, 725.6 hours ACARS
2 legs, 2.8 hours event

Posted onPost created on July 02 2011 15:11 ET by John Anderson

A couple of nights ago, while flying my PMDG 73G, I had a failure in pressurization system.
After going through abnorman procedures checklist, I was able to resolve the problem, but if not, the next step would have been to decend to or below 10,000, then of course the next obvious step would have been to land.

Would that have been counted as two cycles?

John Anderson (DVA9677)

DVA3196
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP, COMM

Joined on June 03 2006
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"pitchpowertrim.com"
Anderson, MO

619 legs, 1,093.4 hours
292 legs, 503.1 hours online
580 legs, 1,026.5 hours ACARS
89 legs, 191.0 hours event
236 legs dispatched, 110.1 hours

Posted onPost created on July 02 2011 16:15 ET by Michael Brown

http://www.deltava.org/notams.do

DVA NOTAM 33

From time to time, flights may divert due to mechanical or weather problems. Diversions need to be made at least halfway through the flight to airports served by Delta Virtual Airlines or its codeshare partners. If landing at the alternate airport results in an invalid flight leg, this leg will be held. You should continue from the alternate airport to the original intended destination. When completed both legs can be reviewed for approval.

NOTE: Delta Virtual Airlines will not approve flights when the Departing and Arriving airports are the same. If you have a reason to return to the departing airport, the flight will not be approved.

Approval of any diversions is within the discretion of the Vice-President of Operations, and Delta Virtual may reject any diversion as seen fit.

George Lewis
VP of Operations

Michael Brown (DVA3196)

Posted onPost created on July 02 2011 16:23 ET by John Anderson

I've seen this, and as much as I hate to say it, it seems grey to me.

If approved, this would count as two cycles?

I'm not looking to start having constant emergencies, but I suddenly realized just how quickly a situation could result in a diversion.

Thanks Michael.

John Anderson (DVA9677)

DVA3943
Senior Captain, B737-800

Joined on January 22 2007
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""Brakes released- cleared to push""
North Kingstown, RI USA

1,379 legs, 1,845.6 hours
1,277 legs, 1,632.7 hours online
1,266 legs, 1,659.7 hours ACARS
30 legs, 54.0 hours event
9 legs dispatched, 6.8 hours

Posted onPost created on July 02 2011 16:43 ET by Trevor Woolley

Please also remember, as the NOTAM states, Ultimately the approval is at the discretion of DVA Staff.

That doesn't mean that every time you have this happen you cant file the report. These reports serve as great learning tools in your log book.

Trevor Woolley (DVA3943)

DVA5929
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP

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TX USA

651 legs, 3,806.1 hours
472 legs, 2,922.9 hours online
565 legs, 3,319.5 hours ACARS
8 legs, 18.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on July 02 2011 21:34 ET by Nicholas Carpenter

The two flights would count as two legs if that is what you are asking.

Nicholas Carpenter

Senior Captain, B747-400

Posted onPost created on July 02 2011 23:09 ET by John Anderson

Thanks, Nicholas. That was my question.

John Anderson (DVA9677)

DVA7709
Captain, B757-200

Joined on August 29 2009
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Southeastern United States

452 legs, 908.6 hours
415 legs, 843.4 hours online
451 legs, 907.6 hours ACARS
25 legs, 53.3 hours event

Posted onPost created on July 19 2011 04:02 ET by Jose Hernandez

You Know I don't like how you can't have an takeoff alternate as they do this in the real world just for the purpose of returning to the field if something happens at takeoff and the landing is below mins at the dep field. That is why I don't like this NOTAM because its saying you can only have an emergency half way through your flight, when you never know when they will come. That's just my 4 cents about this NOTAM

Jose Hernandez

Captain, B757-200

Posted onPost created on July 19 2011 13:41 ET by Nicholas Carpenter

Jose, you can still file the PIREP and it will be reviewed on a case by case basis by the ops department. The choice to approve or reject is up to them.

Nicholas Carpenter

Senior Captain, B747-400

DVA4025
First Officer, B747-400

Joined on September 09 2005
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Orlando, FL USA

174 legs, 455.9 hours
71 legs, 139.7 hours online
140 legs, 396.7 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on March 24 2012 09:12 ET by Stephen Panzl

We should add the 1 2 3 rule to the notams for alternets. 1 hour before and after eta 2000 foot ceilings and 3 mile vis. That or less you need an alternate. At least that's how it is in the really world. Now I not a commercial pilot yet (but I am just ab to take my instrument written) but commercial SOPs might be a lot stricter then the FAA and I also know that a commercial carrier can't shot an instrument approach if the weather is already reporting under mins. That's my 2 cents
Thanks Stephen

DVA7922
Senior Captain, MD-88
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"Student Pilot: "Um, Your controls.""
Dallas, GA USA

384 legs, 1,292.5 hours
128 legs, 221.9 hours online
382 legs, 1,281.7 hours ACARS
18 legs, 40.6 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 24 2012 09:24 ET by Charles Carter

Stephen Panzl wrote:

We should add the 1 2 3 rule to the notams for alternets. 1 hour before and after eta 2000 foot ceilings and 3 mile vis. That or less you need an alternate. At least that's how it is in the really world. Now I not a commercial pilot yet (but I am just ab to take my instrument written) but commercial SOPs might be a lot stricter then the FAA and I also know that a commercial carrier can't shot an instrument approach if the weather is already reporting under mins. That's my 2 cents
Thanks Stephen

I've done some flying at another organization online that has a LOT of rules for the filing of flights. They check the equipment suffixes, are beyond demanding on the route filed, alternate requirements, etc. While it may be more realistic, and that organization does allow flights of all kinds (GA, airlines, military), it honestly never really enhanced my experience. I deal with all of those rules at work, it's tedious. What I do in the sim world should be focused on enjoyment. If you want to impose those rules on yourself, there is absolutely nothing stopping you. I personally do include alternates, as well as possible holding, and contingency into my fuel planning as you never know what might happen in VATSIM, espicially during an event. I just don't support the idea of it becoming DVA requirement. There is no guarantee that new requirements would fit your concept as there are different rules throughout the world governing the same topics. Also, it would drastically increase the time it takes to verify each flight.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

John - What was the pressurization problem? Did you actually depressurize?

Charles Carter

Senior Captain, MD-88

Posted onPost created on March 24 2012 09:27 ET by John Anderson

No, there was no actual depreussurization, but the auto valves apparently had an elect problem. Cycling to manual then back to auto took care of the problem.

John Anderson (DVA9677)

Posted onPost created on March 24 2012 09:30 ET by Charles Carter

Nice

Charles Carter

Senior Captain, MD-88

DVA8088
Chief Pilot, B737-800
OLP, 737-ATP

Joined on December 11 2009
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Corona, CA

7,274 legs, 15,062.4 hours
6,861 legs, 13,624.8 hours online
7,213 legs, 14,893.9 hours ACARS
372 legs, 926.8 hours event

Posted onPost created on April 03 2012 16:03 ET by Scott Simmons

Next time just remember to close the cabin door (that ACARS conveniently opens for you) after your previous flight. LOL!

Scott Simmons (DVA8088)

DVA238
Senior Captain, B737-800

Joined on August 15 2001
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Comer, GA

1,485 legs, 3,437.6 hours
235 legs, 435.3 hours online
1,124 legs, 2,800.8 hours ACARS
1 legs dispatched, 1.8 hours

Posted onPost created on April 03 2012 20:12 ET by Brittany Sventon

I don't like ACARS opening the door, until the jetway pulls up to the gate.

Brittany Sventon (DVA238)

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