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DVA9943
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Posted onPost created on September 03 2011 18:49 ET by Cody Cossette

Hi guys,
I am buying my first true gaming computer...I know its nothing special but just wanted some opionions on this computer and if it would play fsx fairly decent bout 20-25+ fps. Thanks for all the help smile

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1102736&sku=SYX-1107
Some quick specs:
Intel® Second Generation Core™ i7 2600 3.4GHZ Processor
8GB DDR3 Memory
Intel® HD Graphics 2000
1 TB Harddrive
Realtek alc887 audio

Cody Cossette (DVA9943)

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Posted onPost created on September 03 2011 22:43 ET by David Garrison

That's a terrible computer for the price, man. The 2600 is not even a K version, and it has no graphics card.

David Garrison

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Posted onPost created on September 03 2011 22:51 ET by Randy Donnelly

David Garrison wrote:

That's a terrible computer for the price, man. The 2600 is not even a K version, and it has no graphics card.

Man Sany roard Fan boys! Add a Nvidia 470 video card and you would have a very nice FSX computer for around 899.00. I've built many,many computers for myself and others!

Randy Donnelly

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DVA8574
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Posted onPost created on September 03 2011 23:41 ET by David Garrison

900 for a computer that cant be overclocked.. he'll get less than 15fps in intensive aircraft and scenery.

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Posted onPost created on September 04 2011 00:34 ET by Moiz Shakeel

That Looks like a great computer, though the only problem there is that there is no video card but I guess you could get one later on. Though you could save some money and build a computer but if you don't want to then go a website like ncix.com or such where you select the parts and they build it for you. All in all I think fsx will fly on that machine and you will be getting 20+ frames and about the overclocking well that doesn't matter since really you have a top of the line CPU and overclocking would reduce the life spam of that so your set. biggrin

And like I said later on you could get a graphics card, te new nvidea cards are coming out soon so you could wait for those.

Moiz Shakeel (DVA8777)

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Posted onPost created on September 04 2011 02:04 ET by David Garrison

overclocking doesn't reduce lifespan by much.. we're talking about maybe 8+ years on a default clock.. down to 6 years when overclocked.. by then it's already time to upgrade again. I would advise against this particular computer.

David Garrison

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on September 04 2011 12:16 ET by Cody Cossette

Hi guys and thanks for all the help! I am very uniteligent when it comes to computer parts...what does a graphics card do to enhance the preformance. Thanks in advance.

Cody Cossette (DVA9943)

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"I5 2500K - 560GTX - 8GB Ripjaw"
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Posted onPost created on September 04 2011 14:36 ET by Alan Barber

Cody - a graphics card is entirely dedicated to the production of your screen image, the graphics option on the PC you are looking at is 'hard wired' to the motherboard and as such will put a bit of a drain on resources. A dedicated card will generally have faster processing power plus more and faster graphics memory. Flight Sim does not tend to perform as well with on-board graphics.

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on September 04 2011 15:23 ET by Cody Cossette

Alan thanks for the explanation! This is very foreign to me. So to make sure im understanding this right I should buy another graphics card? If so which one do you reccomend. Thanks for your patience!

Cody Cossette (DVA9943)

Posted onPost created on September 04 2011 15:29 ET by Alan Barber

Cody - I'll have a look at the machine you are looking at and see if I can make any suggestions, is $700 your total budget? I use an i5 2600k which I overclocked slightly together with an Nvidia 560 Graphics card - I get more than acceptable performance with FSX with detail turned up pretty much to the max. My Pireps say I am averaging around 30fps.

Edit - do you already have an Operating system install disk? or are you looking for something with W7 installed?

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on September 04 2011 15:50 ET by Cody Cossette

I could do about 800 andi dont have a copy of windows. Thanks!

Cody Cossette (DVA9943)

Posted onPost created on September 04 2011 15:52 ET by Alan Barber

Cody - IMHO this is better vlaue for money http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229266

and if your budget can stretch to it this is even better http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Mega_Special_II/

Bear in mind that I am in the UK so my knowledge of US retailers is somewhat limited - hopefully someone else can chime in with some thoughts.

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on September 04 2011 17:47 ET by Cody Cossette

Alan,
Thanks for all the help!! It was greatly appreciated! Also thanks for taking the time to look up those computers!
Thanks again for everything, It was very helpful!

Cody Cossette (DVA9943)

Posted onPost created on September 04 2011 18:18 ET by Alan Barber

Not a problem Cody - Do a bit of research if you like the Cyberpower PC - it does have some indifferent reviews on NewEgg. Do you know anyone that could help put a pc together for you - NewEgg have some good combo deals on components also. Come back to me if you need anything further.

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on September 04 2011 18:48 ET by Cody Cossette

I don't know anyone to help me build one. I am looking at building one from cyberpower PC. I will let you know on any further questions

Cody Cossette (DVA9943)

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 08:11 ET by Alan Barber

Okay - having looked at Cyberpower one thing you may want to look at is if getting an i5 2500k and having it pre-overclocked rather than getting an i7 might be a better approach.

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 09:34 ET by Cody Cossette

Alan how do you go about getting it pre-overclocked?

Cody Cossette (DVA9943)

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 09:36 ET by Alan Barber

Cody - on the configuration page look for "Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking"

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 09:38 ET by Cody Cossette

Okay will look for it

Cody Cossette (DVA9943)

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 09:41 ET by Cody Cossette

I was more looking at the one on new egg. Is there anyway to overclock that one?

Cody Cossette (DVA9943)

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 11:11 ET by Alan Barber

Newegg comes as is - any overclocking would be down to you - not a difficult thing to do though if you do some homework

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 11:18 ET by Alan Barber

Cody - have played with the config - what do you think of this http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1DGHRE

Overclocking 10% would be $20

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 11:24 ET by Alan Barber

This is the setup

Case: Raidmax Blade Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Side-Panel Window (Black Color)
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default case fans
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-2500K 3.30 GHz 6M Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified) [+120]
Cooling Fan: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: Standard Coolant
Motherboard: [CrossFireX] Asus P8Z68-V LX Intel Z68 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard LucidLogix Virtu and Intel Smart Response Technology & 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2x SATA-III RAID,2 3 PCIe Gen2, 2 PCIe X1 & 2 3CI (All Venom OC Certified) [+45]
Memory: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Corsair or Major Brand)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
Power Supply Upgrade: 700 Watts - XtremeGear SLI/CrossFireX Ready Power Supply
Hard Drive: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
Internal USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS

Doesn't include speakers - with a basic set of speakers and a 10% overclock it comes to $830.

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 12:21 ET by Cody Cossette

looks good I think I am gonna order it! Thanks again Alan and everyone for all your help! It is very appreciated biggrin

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 12:33 ET by Alan Barber

Before ordering Cody - I would contact cyberpower just to put a name on some of the parts - Graphics Card primarily - then just check out some reviews that they are not going to provide you with a substandard model.

Here's one for the motherboard to get you started!! http://www.anandtech.com/show/4330/asus-p8z68v-review

Edit: And the all important conclusion page for the CPU cooler http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2009/07/29/corsair-hydro-h50-cpu-cooler-review/6

And as I previously mentioned I am on the expensive side of the pond - getting that sort of spec for that money in the UK would take some effort, but check out Cyberpower, what is their aftersales like? Tech Support? You don't want to have a problem and be stuck with it!

Come back here or email me directly if you have any further questions - I'm more than happy to help.

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 13:03 ET by Alan Barber

Cody - check out some of the other re-sellers (walmart etc) you may find a bargain!

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 13:52 ET by Cody Cossette

I looked around couldn't find a better deal!

Cody Cossette (DVA9943)

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 14:59 ET by Alan Barber

As it stands, what I have spec'd out there does NOT include any overclocking, speakers or monitor, so check you are okay in that department. A small overclock is easily achievable with a bit of research, so you could save yourself some cash there. The i5 2500K overclocks very well so you shouldn't have any problems. Another thing to think about is if you can swing for an extra $60 the 560gtx is a better graphics card.

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 15:26 ET by Cody Cossette

For the specs i have i got it factory overclocked

Cody Cossette (DVA9943)

Posted onPost created on September 05 2011 21:58 ET by Cody Cossette

Alan I got the computer with the better graphics card. Thank you so much for your help!! Also thanks to everyone else who gave feedback! biggrin

Posted onPost created on September 06 2011 05:49 ET by Alan Barber

Glad to help Cody. When you get your new machine I would thoroughly recommend using this guide when setting up W7 & FSX

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

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Posted onPost created on September 06 2011 06:38 ET by Nathan Cox

I believe you forgot to post the link....

Nathan Cox (DVA9080)

Posted onPost created on September 06 2011 15:20 ET by Alan Barber

Oops! http://www.simforums.com/forums/topic34141_post198187.html#198187

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on September 06 2011 17:19 ET by Cody Cossette

Okay will do! Thanks again

Cody Cossette (DVA9943)

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