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Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | PC Support | The Leveld 767 and the QW 757 vs others
DVA9655
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP

Joined on January 01 2011
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Golden State Club
Two Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Double Century Club
Millennium Club

"DAL9655, you are cleared for takeoff"
New York, NY

1,007 legs, 5,454.7 hours
242 legs, 882.9 hours online
807 legs, 4,513.8 hours ACARS
12 legs, 40.6 hours event
Posted onPost created on October 02 2011 21:26 ET by Remy Mermelstein
hey guys,

so i was thinking about buying the QW757 and the Leveld 767. Before i buy them i want to know what is the difference between the CLS and Captain sim versions. If anybody can help me decide that would be great! i have looked at the websites and they look almost the same, but i vear to the QW and Captain Sim and CLS.


thanks!

~remy



DVA8752
Captain, B767-300

Joined on January 01 2010
50 State Club
Triple Century Club

Sedalia, CO

338 legs, 1,236.8 hours
31 legs, 181.3 hours online
37 legs, 232.7 hours ACARS
2 legs, 8.4 hours event
Posted onPost created on October 02 2011 22:46 ET by Brandon Howell
The Level-D was designed with input by RW 767 captains and F/Os, while it's my understanding that the CS was not. You'll find the majority of payware 767 users here are using the Level-D. Some may decry the VC switches not all being modeled in 3D, but I hardly noticed it after a few flights.

CS products also impact your FPS much harder than the Level-D and QW do as well.



DVA9655
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP

Joined on January 01 2011
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Golden State Club
Two Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Double Century Club
Millennium Club

"DAL9655, you are cleared for takeoff"
New York, NY

1,007 legs, 5,454.7 hours
242 legs, 882.9 hours online
807 legs, 4,513.8 hours ACARS
12 legs, 40.6 hours event
Posted onPost created on October 02 2011 23:02 ET by Remy Mermelstein
Ok, thanks Brandon.



DVA10130
Captain, B737-800

Joined on September 02 2011

West Valley City, UT USA

81 legs, 132.0 hours
79 legs, 129.6 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on October 02 2011 23:46 ET by Todd Marks
I would stay away from the CLS, as the systems modeling isn't complete. The Captain Sim is nice, because you can get the -200 model too. It is a bit heavier on frames compared to the LevelD, however. As far as the QualityWings 757 is concerned it's a very great aircraft. Again, the systems aren't fully modeled (but way more so than the CLS); but the model looks great and the soundpack is astonishing! I love to crank up my speakers when I have her out. The Captain Sim 757 is very similar to the 767: very well modeled, looks great, but heavy on frames.


DVA9677
Captain, B737-800
OLP

Joined on April 11 2011
50 State Club
Online Double Century Club
Quincentenary Club

"American 1482, your APU is leaking baggage."
Kissimmee, FL USA

543 legs, 735.9 hours
247 legs, 299.2 hours online
538 legs, 725.6 hours ACARS
2 legs, 2.8 hours event
Posted onPost created on October 03 2011 05:55 ET by John Anderson
I haven't tried other 67s, but I tried several 57s. Have you looked at the PSS 757?
The three things I noticed different from the Level-D 767 and the PSS 757 was; The VHF Radio is not modeled in the PSS 757; There is no one button Grnd Service in the PSS; The First Officer doesn't handle your flaps and gear in the PSS.

Aside from those, I could sit down in the PSS and swear that Level-D had modeled it.
(of course, this comes from one who almost exclusively flies with 2D panel)



DVA7343
Captain, B777-200
OLP

Joined on May 16 2009
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Triple Century Club

"It's not a job but an adventure "
Lugoff, SC USA

368 legs, 798.4 hours
39 legs, 73.8 hours online
358 legs, 777.7 hours ACARS
1 legs, 2.9 hours event
Posted onPost created on October 03 2011 06:30 ET by John Morris
Remy I have to go with Todd on this. I have the LDS767 the QW757 and the CS757 and from what I have observed is that the CS model is a bit heavy of FPS even with the system I have. Flying in FS9 with all my settings as high as I can get pushing 70+ FPS the CS bird I can only get close to 40 FPS

John Morris

Captain, B777-200
DVA10130
Captain, B737-800

Joined on September 02 2011

West Valley City, UT USA

81 legs, 132.0 hours
79 legs, 129.6 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on October 03 2011 17:24 ET by Todd Marks
John Anderson wrote:

I haven't tried other 67s, but I tried several 57s. Have you looked at the PSS 757?
The three things I noticed different from the Level-D 767 and the PSS 757 was; The VHF Radio is not modeled in the PSS 757; There is no one button Grnd Service in the PSS; The First Officer doesn't handle your flaps and gear in the PSS.

Aside from those, I could sit down in the PSS and swear that Level-D had modeled it.
(of course, this comes from one who almost exclusively flies with 2D panel)

The PSS model looks terrible...



DVA9655
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP

Joined on January 01 2011
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Golden State Club
Two Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Double Century Club
Millennium Club

"DAL9655, you are cleared for takeoff"
New York, NY

1,007 legs, 5,454.7 hours
242 legs, 882.9 hours online
807 legs, 4,513.8 hours ACARS
12 legs, 40.6 hours event
Posted onPost created on October 03 2011 17:29 ET by Remy Mermelstein
Ok, so I think I have made my decision, I will get the QW757 and the Leveld 767 based on what you have said here, and what I have read and heard elsewhere. Thanks so much for your input. I an working on redoing my whole computer, getting whole new addons that are pay ware, and getting new flight planning software. Basically I am starting over with my computer world.


DVA9443
Senior Captain, B767-300
OLP

Joined on January 23 2011
50 State Club
Six Century Club
Everett 500 Club

Ottawa, ON Canada

639 legs, 1,677.0 hours
80 legs, 136.3 hours online
639 legs, 1,677.0 hours ACARS
4 legs, 15.3 hours event
Posted onPost created on October 03 2011 17:40 ET by Craig McGrath
Good choice. I love Captain Sim, but the Level-D....man, what a beauty.


DVA9655
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP

Joined on January 01 2011
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Golden State Club
Two Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Double Century Club
Millennium Club

"DAL9655, you are cleared for takeoff"
New York, NY

1,007 legs, 5,454.7 hours
242 legs, 882.9 hours online
807 legs, 4,513.8 hours ACARS
12 legs, 40.6 hours event
Posted onPost created on October 03 2011 17:42 ET by Remy Mermelstein
I can't wait. And I am really happy. I recently got a nice sum of money from my grandparents to rebuild my system, get new software and add-onset. I can't wait!


DVA8752
Captain, B767-300

Joined on January 01 2010
50 State Club
Triple Century Club

Sedalia, CO

338 legs, 1,236.8 hours
31 legs, 181.3 hours online
37 legs, 232.7 hours ACARS
2 legs, 8.4 hours event
Posted onPost created on October 03 2011 18:08 ET by Brandon Howell
Email me if you want my Level-D checklists.


DVA9655
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP

Joined on January 01 2011
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Golden State Club
Two Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Double Century Club
Millennium Club

"DAL9655, you are cleared for takeoff"
New York, NY

1,007 legs, 5,454.7 hours
242 legs, 882.9 hours online
807 legs, 4,513.8 hours ACARS
12 legs, 40.6 hours event
Posted onPost created on October 03 2011 18:10 ET by Remy Mermelstein
Ok Brandon, I will, I want to study them before I get it.


DVA1170
Captain, B757-200

Joined on April 06 2003
50 State Club
Triple Century Club

Waxhaw, NC USA

341 legs, 901.6 hours
64 legs, 109.2 hours online
239 legs, 684.9 hours ACARS
5 legs, 9.8 hours event
Posted onPost created on October 04 2011 10:25 ET by Jared Steier
QW 757 is awesome...
Level D 767 is awesome...
CS 757 is OK, very heavy on system resources.
Don't ever buy a CLS product unless you haven't felt disappointment in a while and missed that feeling...

Jared Steier

Captain, B757-200
DVA9655
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP

Joined on January 01 2011
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Golden State Club
Two Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Double Century Club
Millennium Club

"DAL9655, you are cleared for takeoff"
New York, NY

1,007 legs, 5,454.7 hours
242 legs, 882.9 hours online
807 legs, 4,513.8 hours ACARS
12 legs, 40.6 hours event
Posted onPost created on October 04 2011 16:24 ET by Remy Mermelstein
Ok Jared :))


DVA9571
Senior Captain, B767-300

Joined on March 10 2011
Everett 500 Club
Online Quintuple Century Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
Six Century Club

Miami, FL USA

612 legs, 2,333.0 hours
590 legs, 2,242.9 hours online
602 legs, 2,307.3 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on October 07 2011 21:02 ET by Bob Klemm
Don't forget to download the FREE winglet upgrade for the LDS 767!

Bob Klemm

Senior Captain, B767-300
DVA9655
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP

Joined on January 01 2011
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Golden State Club
Two Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Double Century Club
Millennium Club

"DAL9655, you are cleared for takeoff"
New York, NY

1,007 legs, 5,454.7 hours
242 legs, 882.9 hours online
807 legs, 4,513.8 hours ACARS
12 legs, 40.6 hours event
Posted onPost created on October 07 2011 21:32 ET by Remy Mermelstein
i will bob





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