Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - Which Graphics card is better

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | PC Support | Which Graphics card is better

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Posted onPost created on January 10 2012 11:27 ET by Josh Burr

Which card is faster?:
3GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GT 545 [DVI, HDMI, VGA],
or,
1.5GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 [2 DVI, HDMI, VGA adpt]

Thanks!

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Posted onPost created on January 10 2012 11:38 ET by Thiago Braga

I would go for 1.5GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 580 for 2 Monitors.

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Posted onPost created on January 10 2012 11:41 ET by Josh Burr

Well I already have two hooked up and workign fine, one in VGA, and one in DMI. But which has the faster performance?

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Posted onPost created on January 10 2012 12:07 ET by Steve Brayford

See here for a direct comparison between the two cards you mentioned. GTX 580 blows it out of the water!

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+545

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Posted onPost created on January 10 2012 12:26 ET by Josh Burr

Thanks Steve! I may be updating very soon!

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Posted onPost created on January 10 2012 15:03 ET by James Hepburn

The GTX 580 for sure... impressive performance specs if u do the research.

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Posted onPost created on January 10 2012 16:06 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

If cost is an issue use two Evga 560Tis its a little cheaper then a 580. About the same performance in the end from what I have been reading in some cases the 580 was faster others the duel 560 tis were.

Posted onPost created on January 10 2012 17:01 ET by Steve Brayford

Whatever you go for Josh ... just make sure you have sufficient power supply and cooling - especially if you consider an SLI configuration ... otherwise your investment may be in vain!

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Posted onPost created on January 10 2012 18:12 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

I agree make sure you have enough power and cooling. I suggest at least not playing in a warm room, I am lucky enough to play in our basement when it snows I sit at only like 25 degrees rofl its so cold down here when its just sitting on air and a cheap case.

Posted onPost created on January 10 2012 18:50 ET by Josh Burr

I have enought cooling, and I think enough power. Right now I have the 3GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GT 545 [DVI, HDMI, VGA], but I want to upgrade to the 3GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 [2 DVI, HDMI, VGA adpt]. So I have enough cooling, but is 300W power enough, and if not, how do I upgrade my power suply? Thanks!

Again, everthing is totaly fine, and temp never increases in my room with the 3GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GT 545 [DVI, HDMI, VGA].

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Posted onPost created on January 10 2012 18:53 ET by Josh Burr

I just heard from my friend who works fro nvidia that a new 600 series is coming out later next year...any thoughts? ideas? should I wait? etc,

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Posted onPost created on January 10 2012 18:55 ET by Josh Burr

By the way, my other specs are Intel core i7-2600 CPU@3.40GHZ w/ 16GB RAM

Not sure about the board, if that matters....

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Posted onPost created on January 10 2012 20:11 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

You will need at least 650-850W total for any graphics card update i am %100 sure. I am using a AMD 8120 with a GTX 560 and i am pushing it on 650W.

The board will matter you need to know if you can sli if you plan on that route, or if you even have a pci x16 slot for the GTX 580 if you go with that. Also waiting a year for something that will pry cost around $900 anyways is pry not worth it.

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Posted onPost created on January 15 2012 23:10 ET by David Garrison

FSX does NOT recognize multi-GPU setups.. go with one card if it's for FSX. Are you kidding me? 580 no brainer over the 545. 300w PSU won't cut it.. you're using a weak PSU and have way too much RAM, 16GB is useless.

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Posted onPost created on January 16 2012 12:05 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

David Garrison wrote:

FSX does NOT recognize multi-GPU setups.. go with one card if it's for FSX. Are you kidding me? 580 no brainer over the 545. 300w PSU won't cut it.. you're using a weak PSU and have way too much RAM, 16GB is useless.

Does not matter if he has to much ram lol maybe if he was just now building the system. But you are right from everything I have seen duel GPUs won't do anything more. But if you plan on playing other games the option is always there not everyone just plays FSX, or may want to go play another game later on.

Posted onPost created on January 16 2012 12:43 ET by Thiago Braga

Josh Burr wrote:

Well I already have two hooked up and workign fine, one in VGA, and one in DMI. But which has the faster performance?

DMI always. Or even better with HDMI cable.
Definitely you will need to buy a new power supply. At least 650W.

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Posted onPost created on January 16 2012 13:04 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

Thiago Braga wrote:

Josh Burr wrote:

Well I already have two hooked up and workign fine, one in VGA, and one in DMI. But which has the faster performance?

DMI always. Or even better with HDMI cable.
Definitely you will need to buy a new power supply. At least 650W.

This for sure 650W psu for 560-570ish for a 580 i would get a 800W+ and a good cpu cooler. That will make for great overclocking fsx gets most of its fps from cpu for example my 8120 at 3.7Gz on max settings gets 5-10FPS frown

at 4Gz i get 20-30FPS which is a crazy big difference. The only problem is i need to wait to get the H80 for my computer I am still on stock cooler. If you get the h80 or h100, and then get the gtx 560 or the ati = you will receive much better frame rates for cheaper then a gtx 580 through simple overclocking. If you already have a non stock cooler get the gtx 580.

I suggest this powersupplie http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7195038&Sku=C13-2802

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Posted onPost created on January 16 2012 13:43 ET by Michael Martin

I have the 580, waiting for price to drop $50 more and I'm going to get another one and link them together. I have 800 psu and I will need it with the second gpu.

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Posted onPost created on January 16 2012 14:34 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

Michael Martin wrote:

I have the 580, waiting for price to drop $50 more and I'm going to get another one and link them together. I have 800 psu and I will need it with the second gpu.

You can fit two on a 800w PSU ? Seems like it would be pushing it really hard. Also what one do you have?

Posted onPost created on January 16 2012 14:38 ET by Thiago Braga

Michael Martin wrote:

I have the 580, waiting for price to drop $50 more and I'm going to get another one and link them together. I have 800 psu and I will need it with the second gpu.

It`s going to be a powerful machine right there. But I don`t think that FSX able to run with two Video Cards, as the FSX software is old.
But I have this one that I bought it, but never played yet waiting for the Microsoft Flight in Spring: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131446

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Posted onPost created on January 16 2012 14:44 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

Thiago Braga wrote:

Michael Martin wrote:

I have the 580, waiting for price to drop $50 more and I'm going to get another one and link them together. I have 800 psu and I will need it with the second gpu.

It`s going to be a powerful machine right there. But I don`t think that FSX able to run with two Video Cards, as the FSX software is old.
But I have this one that I bought it, but never played yet waiting for the Microsoft Flight in Spring: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131446

Flight won't be any good for simulation but graphics will pry look pretty nice ;). How does those duel vid cards treat you I use the GTX 560 and its my first build I have never used ATI cards before.

Posted onPost created on January 16 2012 14:52 ET by Thiago Braga

Louis Vanbelkum wrote:

Thiago Braga wrote:

Michael Martin wrote:

I have the 580, waiting for price to drop $50 more and I'm going to get another one and link them together. I have 800 psu and I will need it with the second gpu.

It`s going to be a powerful machine right there. But I don`t think that FSX able to run with two Video Cards, as the FSX software is old.
But I have this one that I bought it, but never played yet waiting for the Microsoft Flight in Spring: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131446

Flight won't be any good for simulation but graphics will pry look pretty nice ;). How does those duel vid cards treat you I use the GTX 560 and its my first build I have never used ATI cards before.

Like I said, I didn`t try it yet for FSX, but I use for Battlefield 3 and runs like I`m in the game. imagine crossfiring? I love ATI cards. But I use in my Sony Vaio laptop the GTX 560 and runs amazing.
By the way, I did the try out Microsoft Flight Beta with ATI vid card, Looks awsome!

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Posted onPost created on January 16 2012 14:53 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

How did you get the beta >?

Posted onPost created on January 16 2012 14:55 ET by Thiago Braga

Louis Vanbelkum wrote:

How did you get the beta >?

I had signed up: you may try to see if they are still providing the downloads: http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/#press-takes_to_skies

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Posted onPost created on January 16 2012 14:57 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

Thiago Braga wrote:

Louis Vanbelkum wrote:

How did you get the beta >?

I had signed up: you may try to see if they are still providing the downloads: http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/#press-takes_to_skies

I signed up a while ago when it first came out they did not like me I guess lol.

Posted onPost created on January 16 2012 15:06 ET by Thiago Braga

Did you first went to Microsoft Connect? https://login.live.com/login.srf?wa=wsignin1.0&wtrealm=connect.microsoft.com&wreply=https%3a%2f%2fconnect.microsoft.com%2fsite1134%2fFlightBetaSignUp%3fstoAI%3d10&wp=MBI_FED_SSL&wlcxt=microsoft%24microsoft%24microsoft

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Posted onPost created on January 16 2012 15:07 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

Yeah it says i have sent in one and it is being decided (aka never going to happen lolol) after i signed in

Posted onPost created on January 16 2012 15:12 ET by Thiago Braga

ohhh sorry to hear! Don`t worry; nothing to blow your mind yet, but good graphics.

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Posted onPost created on January 18 2012 13:20 ET by David Garrison

Louis Vanbelkum wrote:

Michael Martin wrote:

I have the 580, waiting for price to drop $50 more and I'm going to get another one and link them together. I have 800 psu and I will need it with the second gpu.

You can fit two on a 800w PSU ? Seems like it would be pushing it really hard. Also what one do you have?

even 700w can run 2 GPU's just fine. a 2500k, gtx 580/ati 6970, dvd and hard drive may use around 500w.

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