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DVA7670
First Officer, B777-200

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Posted onPost created on January 29 2012 21:58 ET by Dustin Thames

As the title says, I'm not getting great frames (in FSX) with my new system, even after tweaking the cfg per NickN's guide. Here's my system specs:

i7-2600k, oc'd to 4.5GHz
EVGA nVidia GTX 560 ti oc'd to 1000/2000/4400
8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600

I'm loading up the posky 777 at ATL (ImagineSim KATL). I have Airline traffic at 100%, with several AI packages (though the bulk is DAL at KATL), other traffic is all less than 5%. When I get near the terminal, my frames drop to 15-20 fps. The game's not unplayable at these frames, but with my system specs, I'd expect much better. Surely the AI is not affecting my oc'd Sandy Bridge cpu that much, is it?

Dustin Thames

First Officer, B777-200

DVA9193
First Officer, B757-200

Joined on November 14 2010
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Posted onPost created on January 29 2012 22:10 ET by Joel Robinson

go here http://www.deltava.org/thread.do?id=0x1a068 and look at alans post (about the 9th one from the bottom) to help with set up. Its a starting point, then tweak upwards from there.

Joel Robinson

First Officer, B757-200

DVA5255
First Officer, A330-300

Joined on November 17 2007

Western United States

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Posted onPost created on January 29 2012 22:13 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

If you just overclocked the cpu I would stress test and get temps. I notice sometimes if i forget to turn all my fans to max while playing fsx at the 4.7Gz around 60C the computer underclocks its self till it gets colder then goes back and forth ect ect.

What cooler are you using and case ect if that is the problem?

Keep a task manager open to test if thats it also.

Posted onPost created on January 29 2012 22:18 ET by Dustin Thames

Thanks, Joel, I'm go check it out now.

Louis, I've been running RealTemp on my other monitor while I'm playing; my cpu temps don't exceed 65c and my GPU temp doesn't exceed 50c. I've got the Freezer 7 Pro (air cooling) on my CPU and the Accelero Xtreme Plus II (air cooling) on my GPU.

Dustin Thames

First Officer, B777-200

DVA9193
First Officer, B757-200

Joined on November 14 2010
50 State Club
Century Club

Western United States

144 legs, 268.9 hours
133 legs, 244.7 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on January 29 2012 22:39 ET by Joel Robinson

I put this link in another post, but it might apply to you to if your interested.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details_ss.asp?EdpNo=3298386&CatId=340

Joel Robinson

First Officer, B757-200

DVA9193
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Joined on November 14 2010
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144 legs, 268.9 hours
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Posted onPost created on January 29 2012 23:49 ET by Joel Robinson

also from the mind of Alan look at this, especially toward the bottom where it shows the FS setting sliders. This made a huge difference even flying the simulated flight that he does out of KSEA a few paragraphs down.
http://www.simforums.com/forums/setting-up-fsx-and-how-to-tune-it_topic29041.html

Joel Robinson

First Officer, B757-200

Posted onPost created on January 30 2012 07:43 ET by Dustin Thames

Thanks, Joel. I'll try the tuning flight that Nick uses out of SEA. In the past, I've typically done ATL or JFK due to the amount of scenery/AI that those two airports tend to tax my system with.

Dustin Thames

First Officer, B777-200

DVA9193
First Officer, B757-200

Joined on November 14 2010
50 State Club
Century Club

Western United States

144 legs, 268.9 hours
133 legs, 244.7 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on January 30 2012 08:42 ET by Joel Robinson

all 3 would be good/ heavy air traffic, heavy population, water, mountains, and building storms. It seems though you'll want to pick a path like he did where there is a transition between the taxed system and more "country" to see how the system make the smooth transition.

Joel Robinson

First Officer, B757-200

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Posted onPost created on January 30 2012 12:29 ET by Trevor Bair

Personally, I would (and did) drop the 2600k to the stock voltages, i.e. no overclocking and run it for at least a month to ensure stability and config. THEN overclock once you know you have it where you want it and it is performing decently... but alas. smile

I'm not sure if you're doing this, but having all sliders maxed in FSX is somewhat of a misconception and not necessary IMHO. You'll definitely want to put some thought into where the settings lay, not just wholesale max them all out - especially with AI traffic, it's going to eat up frames no matter what kind of computer you're running. 20 FPS in FSX given the level of detail, is definitely acceptable in my book. If you followed Nick Needham's setup guide, then you're probably OK in this respect.

Have you tweaked the FSX.cfg using this: http://www.venetubo.com/fsx.html ?

Trevor Bair

Senior Captain, MD-88

DVA7016
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Posted onPost created on January 30 2012 18:09 ET by Alan Barber

Dustin - what is your performance like without any AI? Also have you been getting any BSOD's?

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on January 30 2012 19:44 ET by Dustin Thames

Nope, no BSOD's. When I turn traffic completely off, I get anywhere between 35-50 fps. It's just going to come down to a trade-off between the amount of AI and the level of detail (sliders and/or cfg settings) I set everything, too.

Trevor, I've been thinking about that and may very well take the cpu back to stock for a bit. To note, though, I didn't have to change any of the voltages to get to 4.5GHz. I set the multiplier to 45x and ran prime95 or several hours with no issues.

Dustin Thames

First Officer, B777-200

Posted onPost created on January 31 2012 02:10 ET by Alan Barber

Dustin, it could be the textures that your AI are using, ideally they want to be DXT. You could try researching that a bit.

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on January 31 2012 12:42 ET by Dustin Thames

Oooh, thanks Alan, I never thought of that! I did a manual download and install of all my base packages, textures, and flight plans (yes, i know I could just go with the WOAI installer, but I wanted to do a manual install with the most updated AIG flight plans and liveries) and I'm pretty sure I went with the non-DXT textures on everything.

I know what I'm doing for the next couple of days...

Dustin Thames

First Officer, B777-200

Posted onPost created on February 11 2012 11:22 ET by Dustin Thames

Well, after quite a bit of trial and error tweaking, I've found a solution. Changing the cfg entry texturemaxload (not texture_max_load) to a value of 3 (it was 9) had a huge impact on my frames. I'm now running 100% traffic at KATL and still getting 25-35 fps. One additional tweak that added a bit of performance was setting the bufferpools entry to zero. I read that this really only works if your have >1GB of VRAM.

Dustin Thames

First Officer, B777-200

Posted onPost created on February 11 2012 12:24 ET by Alan Barber

Good to hear Dustin

Alan Barber

Senior Captain, B767-300

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