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Posted onPost created on February 21 2012 22:48 ET by Alexander Brinson

I've found a decent combo, just wanting to know if i could run fsx good on it, for <$750 USD.

Processor: AMD Phenom II X6 1045T 3gHz 6 Core Socket AM3 boxed Processor
Motherboard: TA990FXE socket AM3 990FX ATX AMD
RAM: XMS 8GB DDR3 1333 PC3 10666 Dual Channel Memory Kit 2x4GB
Power Supply: TR2 Series 600 Watt ATX Power Supply
Case: EVO mid tower ATX Case
Opt Drive: 22x DVD±RW Super Multi Dual Layer Burner - OEM
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Video Card: XFX ATI HD 6850 775mHz Core - 1GB GDDR5 SDRAM - 2.1 x16

I also need a wireless adapter, so if anyone would like to help with that, I have a linksys router if that helps.
Thanks, btw I'd like to run FSX and some other games aswell, and do some video editing. I also have to keep a budget so no i7 2600K and Dual gtx 580s.

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Posted onPost created on February 22 2012 06:57 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

I have two suggestions move up to a unlocked processor as the speed is important for fsx. Buy a corsair H60, and for ram I would bump up to 8gigs of corsair vengeance at 1600Mhz. Also I have always heard to go with a Nivida graphics card for fsx only use. A GTX 550Ti would be a good choice.

ram
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=40739&Sku=C13-5720
H60
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7335485&CatId=798
processor
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1239961&Sku=A79-6100
vid card
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=41125&Sku=E145-0550

clearly not requirements but really suggested to change the set up a little bit. Also if you decided to go with this processor get a am3+ mobo or see if your mobo can be upgraded.

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Posted onPost created on February 22 2012 16:46 ET by James Mclees

With medium to high settings you should be able to see 20-40 frames per second with that set-up assuming you'll be on VATSIM and be using a weather program. Not an exact science, if it's in your budget, it's a descent computer for running FSX, you may slowly start to do some minor upgrades with add-ons eating frames.

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Posted onPost created on February 24 2012 21:58 ET by Alexander Brinson

I'm also going to be making videos and other stuff for youtube and what not. I've heard that the ATI beats the GTX in most other aspects. It's also cooler, do i need a cooling system for this pc? I think that the most i can spend on a video card is about 175. I've heard having two lesser cards is as good if not better than one good one, but also the single good one is better. So im not exactly sure.

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Posted onPost created on February 26 2012 00:03 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

Everything I heard was the opposite even more so for FSX you want a Nivda card unless you plan on getting the new 7950-7970 cards which are cooler ect. Anything you heard about being cooler is the new 24nm processing method. But you are looking at around $450-600 for a card with that. FSX will only support 1 card go with a gtx 560 or gtx 550ti (560 if possible). You will want a cpu cooler, honestly any videos you make with a 6 core 3Gz phenom are going to need insane amounts of editing because what ever framerates you are getting without recording will at least be cut in half while recording. So your going from 30-50fps with mid graphics to 20-30 with addons and mid graphics to 10 while recording while spiking in the 5-7 range in bigger cities. You need an unlocked processor or a I7 if you don't plan on overclocking. I highly suggest you use the setup changes I showed you, or go with an intel such as the I5 2500k. I suggest waiting till you can afford a amd 8120, i5-2500k, I7-2600k, or my fav if your not an overclocker Core i7-3820.

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I am bored and going to build a cheap fsx computer and post.

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Here is the end result of my findings total cost $805 with $100 in rebates so $705 when you get the money.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1372438&sku=A79-4100 fx-4100 i really was going for the 8120 but thats another $100 the performance is almost double in the 8120 but a overclock on the 4100 should be ok. I was looking at intel processors instead but the mobos are like $50 more and the processor is $30 more then the 8120 so cost is a little more.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1702987&sku=S15-0568 gtx 560 you can replace with a the 6870 if you would like same price range i believe if you are stuck on a amd card still

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4362115&sku=O261-2018 700W psu plenty of room

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=670303&sku=G452-1037 am3+ mobo

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7281716&sku=TSD-500AAKX simple 500gig harddrive

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=40739&sku=C13-5720 8 gigs of ram

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=41016&sku=A702-0001 cheap case looks pretty good i have a case by the same people it works for what its for keeps my stuff cool

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7335485&sku=C13-2527 H60 cpu cooler I have it works great on the 8120 at 4.1Gz and 4.7Gz depending on what I am doing at that time

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4829307&sku=L12-1312%20OEM simple cd drive

You can save even more money by using old parts such as the Harddrive from your old computer and the cd drive...if you are using a 5200rpm hdd right now i suggest a new one but if its 7200 or a ssd take it and move it smile

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Posted onPost created on February 26 2012 01:18 ET by Kevin Williams

For encoding get an Intel with the integrated graphics. It's got a part of the processor devoted to video encoding.

For fsx, the consensus is that nVidia does better with clouds. Also FSX will do better with a better graphics card instead of 2 lesser cards in crossfire/sli (although if you play other games this probably will be reversed).

I had an AMD 1100T AMD X6 and overclocked the sucker to around 4.0 GHz, but I wasn't happy with it, so I switched to Intel. Intel is a bit pricier but I think the performance is worth it. I had an nVidia GTX 560 with the AMD and sold it that to help offset the cost of the Intel. I bought an inexpensive ATI HD 6790 to go with the Intel. I get better frame rates in the clouds with the intel than my AMD setups, and that's without overclocking the intel. The AMD wasn't bad, just not as good.

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Posted onPost created on February 26 2012 07:58 ET by Kevin Lundy

Man, i'ts going to coast me over $1000 if I keep reading this thread and clicking on the links. I don't need a new computer, I don't need a new computer, I don't need a new computer, I don't need a new computer, banghead

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Posted onPost created on February 26 2012 18:32 ET by Alexander Brinson

No OS? And if I stay with AMD, would it be better to stay with a ATI card? And also, from what reviews I've read, the FX6100 is inferior to the Phenom II X6. This PC with an OS costs roughly $650 and is the H60 required for the pc? Or is it mainly for OC'ing? If its only for OC'ing then I'll have to wait for that so more money builds up. This time I'll write the cost of each part and the dollar amount next to it in USD.

-Phenom II X6 1045T 3GHz Six Core Socket AM3 Boxed Processor $129.99
-970 Extreme3 Socket AM3+ 970 ATX AMD Motherboard $89.99
-V4 Black Edition VM30001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case $39.99 (29.99 MIR)
-TR2 Series 600 Watt ATX Power Supply $54.99 (44.99 MIR)
-XMS3 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Desktop Memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules) $49.99 (29.99 MIR)
-XFX HD6850 Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card $159.99 (129.99 MIR)
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-EVGA 01G-P3-1556-KR NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1024MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.0 x16 Video Card $134.99 (114.99 MIR)
-22x DVD±RW Super Multi Dual Layer Burner - OEM $18.99
-Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit $99.99

I'm just gonna use my 1TB HDD I already have in this pc, just going to wipe it or something, and I still NEED a network adapter for the pc. I will be doing more than just flight sim so I can't afford to put in a poor card. I realize that an Intel is more favorable, but AMD is pretty good, and for money's sake, I shall stick with it. My absolue MAX I can pay is $800. This is a budget PC, and I've been researching for weeks. I also know that nVidia is better for FSX/9 but other games might not be so good with it.

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Posted onPost created on February 29 2012 19:56 ET by Alexander Brinson

Alright, I've found another decent build to do. Costs about the same amount. Just need some help on a video card.
i5 2500K $179.99
ASUS Z68 L1155 ATX Mobo $119.99
Kingston DDR3-1600 2x4Gb Sticks $34.99
Diablotek 600W Power Supply $29.99
V3 Mid Tower Case $37.99
Deciding between a GTX 550Ti and a AMD/ATI 6850. Either 129.99 or 169.99, With Rebate its 109.99 to 139.99.
I've heard about going for the GTX 460, and all seem to be 149.99, 129.99 with rebate. So still undecided. Just going to use the DVD from my old pc for this and also my HDD, 1TB. Should work with it. So in total, the stuff other than the video card, including the OS is about 500 USD. Seems pretty good, at least for me. Maybe later in the future, I could do 2 550Tis or something. It's a pretty good card, and 600W-700W should be good for it right?

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Posted onPost created on February 29 2012 20:38 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

Get the 6850 its a pretty good card even though the computer is for fsx, the benchmark on the ATI card is much higher in this case so you will pry have a better experience. Also from what I have heard fsx will only use one graphics card so unless you are going for bf3 or something also just stick with one until you can afford a 570 or what ever the next series of cards are in a year or so.

Posted onPost created on February 29 2012 22:39 ET by Kevin Williams

Yes 600W will be just fine.

The GTX 460 (1GB version) is a step above the 550 Ti and goes head to head with the 6850. The GTX 460 will probably be a bit better for FSX.

I have the 6790 which is just below the 6850. It's been a decent card for me but I wish it had just a tad more power in other games, but in FSX it's been just fine so the 6850 should work well for you. I like the water reflections better in FSX with the ATI, and if you buy a xfx one, it's got a lifetime warranty smile

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Posted onPost created on February 29 2012 23:02 ET by Alexander Brinson

The 550Ti is about 20-30 bucks less than the 460, and 50 less than 6850. The 550ti SLI seems to be at about the power of a 570 for about $30s less. I kinda want to stay more like the nVidia because its quiet. I know I'm goin in a circle, but I'm learning about all of this stuff still, I'm just a chicken with it's head cut off basically. wink

Posted onPost created on March 02 2012 20:41 ET by Kevin Williams

the 1GB version of the 460 is better than the 550Ti but you really won't notice that big of a difference in fsx. In other games you probably would. As long as your card is at least as good as the old 9600GT or ATI 4850 you'll be fine.

Kevin Williams

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Posted onPost created on March 03 2012 00:35 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

the 460 will use more power and create more heat though

Posted onPost created on March 04 2012 00:44 ET by Alexander Brinson

I'm still unsure about what to get, the rest is clear. Here is a list, very small list, of what I'll be trying to play.
-COD Black Ops
-MW2 (Cod 6)
-FSX/9
-WaW (Cod 5)

The Majority I will be doing is FSX and Black Ops. I want to be able to go SLI/XFire later, but if I buy one expensive card, then I'll have to save up more. If I may be wrong, the Z68 mobo allows the intel graphics to be used, which look to be better than most integrated graphics cards, and when I save up more money, maybe buy a better card. I'm gonna guess it would take about 2-3 months to get enough money for it. For me, I guess the video card will have to be settled once money comes in and I have the other parts.

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Posted onPost created on March 04 2012 02:00 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

this is a pretty decent card for $120 its not a nivida card for fsx but it is amds new manufacturing process that uses less power and is cooler plus supports crossfirex

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2056289&sku=G452-7750
or this
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2056286&CatId=7387
check the core clocks on that they are crazy fast the 2nd one is running faster then a oc 580 not that the card is even on close to the same level but still pretty cool makes me want 2

reviews seemed to be pretty good or decent its a little slower then the 6850 and 550TI but the oc version i showed should help close the gap plus with it using less power and being cooler it will be easier to crossfire

Posted onPost created on March 05 2012 14:28 ET by Alexander Brinson

So now I've narrowed it down to either an ASUS 560 (non-ti) and the XFX 6870. Both cost 170 roughly, and the thing I basicaly need to know is, which is a better company, better for overclocking, the frames/second or studdering, and if its good with creating videos with. Thanks if you can help. Also need a power supply, so if the previously posted power supply is good, I think I'll use that. In the future I'm either going to sli/xfire or get a better card. Or better sli cards.

Alexander Brinson (DVA8890)

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Posted onPost created on March 05 2012 16:07 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

go with evga over asus for the 560 unless the asus is not stock clock....
For a psu you will need to research which ones can sli or crossfire i would say 650Watt for sli 560 and 800+ for much bigger of a card to be safe

Posted onPost created on May 03 2012 20:46 ET by Alexander Brinson

Ok, very late for this now but, I have now got the pc stuff settled, kinda.
I think I'll stick with:
-i5 2500k
-MSI Z68A-G45 Motherboard, SLI/XFire Ready
-Patriot G2 Series 8GB RAM, either 1600Mhz or 1333 (don't think the i5 uses 1600mhz or my motherboard so may go with 1333)
-Thermaltake SMART Series 750W Modular Power Supply, or non modular for $20 USD less (both 80% Bronze Plus certified, and sli ready
-Commander Mid Tower ATX Computer Case
-H60 Water Cooler (only 59.99)

The one problem I still have is what Graphics Card? Right now a GTX 460 1GB is $100 a piece and a GTX 480 is $235, so will a gtx 460 SLI in FSX? I know it can but will it require a bunch of tweaks and stuff? It should be good in other games and in making videos. About a DVD Drive and HDD, just gonna use the one I am currently using, and since this is an AMD PC that I am using right now, if I vlean out all of the stuff that I wont need and put it in the new PC, can I delete all of the AMD stuff and keep Vista on here because I don't feel like spending another $100 bucks for an OS and overall Vista isn't too bad. The Case does support Liquid Cooling and since I might want to overclock and these GTX 4xx series cards are pretty hot I want to keep my pc cool.

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