Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - transfer to air france virtual

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | transfer to air france virtual - a thank to DVA for the experience

DVA10030
Captain, B727-200
OLP

Joined on August 04 2011
50 State Club
Online Double Century Club
Triple Century Club

"Inertial Navigation System Fan "
Milano, Lombardia Italia

323 legs, 812.4 hours
229 legs, 553.7 hours online
308 legs, 767.2 hours ACARS
27 legs, 52.7 hours event
1,410 legs, 2,961.0 hours total

Posted onPost created on May 30 2012 20:34 ET by Luca Di Biase

hi there fellow pilots,
i've requested to be transfered to air france virtual, so i would like to thanks deltava pilots for the great pleasure that i had flying in such glorious airlines full of very skilled fellow pilots.
A special appreciament to the great 727 roster, the best roster at dva, and expecially to the big Chief Gideon Sober.
Another special thank is for mr Sid Dudley, that has been always very helpuf and friendly with me.
See u in the skies under the french flag Sirs!

Luca Di Biase (DVA10030)

DVA7752
First Officer, B747-400
OLP

Joined on August 21 2009
50 State Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
Online Double Century Club
Toulouse Century Club
Quatercentenary Club

"Turbulence just makes you have to go worse..."
Parker, CO USA

411 legs, 942.0 hours
246 legs, 564.4 hours online
389 legs, 904.0 hours ACARS
17 legs, 27.3 hours event

Posted onPost created on May 30 2012 23:56 ET by Greg Stark

Luca, you're not leaving us big guy. You can still fly with us anytime and keep in touch via the WC.

Greg Stark (DVA7752)

DVA9515
First Officer, B777-200

Joined on February 24 2011
Everett Century Club
DVA Two-Year Anniversary
Triple Century Club

Midwestern United States

370 legs, 1,124.9 hours
351 legs, 1,047.1 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on August 24 2012 12:17 ET by Aiden O'Nions

I don't mean to revive a particularly old thread, but how do you go about switching from DVA to AFVA? And what are the benefits/cons?

Aiden O'Nions (DVA9515)

DVA8752
Captain, B767-300

Joined on January 01 2010
50 State Club
Triple Century Club

Sedalia, CO

338 legs, 1,236.8 hours
31 legs, 181.3 hours online
37 legs, 232.7 hours ACARS
2 legs, 8.4 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 24 2012 12:49 ET by Brandon Howell

Aiden O'Nions wrote:

I don't mean to revive a particularly old thread, but how do you go about switching from DVA to AFVA? And what are the benefits/cons?

Email Terry or make a help desk issue.

Brandon Howell (DVA8752)

DVA1038
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL

Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club

"Celer, Silens, Mortalis"
Summerville, SC USA

169 legs, 1,008.2 hours
56 legs, 288.5 hours online
25 legs, 221.2 hours ACARS
1 legs, 5.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 24 2012 12:52 ET by Kevin Cornish

Different route and equipment. More European flying at AFVA than at DVA. Little more Africa flying too. Your shorter routes at AFVA are in Europe verses the shorter routes here are in the US. DVA has more Asian Routes.

Kevin Cornish

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on August 24 2012 13:05 ET by Aiden O'Nions

Thanks guys, I think I'll switch over.

Aiden O'Nions (DVA9515)

DVA8060
First Officer, B737-800

Joined on December 06 2009
B757 100 Club
Online Double Century Club
Everett 250 Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary

Swindon, UK

347 legs, 998.9 hours
280 legs, 861.5 hours online
343 legs, 986.8 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on August 27 2012 04:08 ET by Jamie Moss

But u can just fly all the AFVA routes under DVA cant u

Jamie Moss

First Officer, B737-800

DVA6167
Senior Captain, B737-800

Joined on July 19 2008
Online Century Club
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
Tin Dispatcher
Millennium Club
Two Million Mile Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Madison, WI USA

1,182 legs, 4,649.7 hours
163 legs, 522.6 hours online
1,169 legs, 4,579.1 hours ACARS
2 legs, 4.0 hours event
1,225 legs, 4,810.0 hours total
343 legs dispatched, 224.0 hours

Posted onPost created on August 27 2012 10:11 ET by Bryan Klawiter

Each division has a bigger emphasis in each area. If you belong to DVA, you do not have access to every flight that AFVA does and the same is true if you belong to AFVA.

Bryan Klawiter

Senior Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on August 28 2012 14:30 ET by Jamie Moss

oh ok Bryan, so I like to fly the KLM routes these days as they have a fair number of 747 real life flights(17 show up in DVA) would there be more then for AFVA

Jamie Moss

First Officer, B737-800

Posted onPost created on August 28 2012 16:46 ET by Bryan Klawiter

I am not sure of the exact numbers for each airframe and airline, but yes, that would be correct.

Bryan Klawiter

Senior Captain, B737-800

DVA8576
Captain, MD-11

Joined on April 26 2010
50 State Club
Century Club

Frankfurt am Main, Hessen DE

121 legs, 190.2 hours
121 legs, 190.2 hours ACARS
239 legs, 400.9 hours total

Posted onPost created on August 30 2012 06:24 ET by Holger Ende

A transfer might be interesting for me, too!

But I've got a few more questions before I request a transfer:

1. Are my ratings transferred as well? Which means: Am I allowed to use the same aircraft that I'm currently allowed to within DVA?
2. What about my logbook - is it transferred as well or do I loose all of my recent flights?
3. What about the language? Is it french (which might be a big showstopper for me ;-))?
4. And is it possible to see the flightplans before actually being transferred? This would be very helpful for my decision.

I'm not shure, whom to ask. But in the past the water cooler always has been very helpful for me...

Holger Ende

Captain, MD-11

DVA10028
Captain, DC-6
OLP

Joined on August 03 2011
50 State Club
Globetrotter
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
US Mountaineer Club
US Coastal Club
Commuter Conquest
Everett 500 Club
Flying Colonel
Million Mile Club
Online Fifteen Century

"Accidentally headed down the path less traveled"
Anchorage, AK

1,720 legs, 3,281.1 hours
1,524 legs, 2,866.7 hours online
1,715 legs, 3,276.9 hours ACARS
16 legs, 27.6 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 30 2012 09:59 ET by Chase Parker

Holger Ende wrote:

A transfer might be interesting for me, too!

But I've got a few more questions before I request a transfer:

1. Are my ratings transferred as well? Which means: Am I allowed to use the same aircraft that I'm currently allowed to within DVA?
2. What about my logbook - is it transferred as well or do I loose all of my recent flights?
3. What about the language? Is it french (which might be a big showstopper for me ;-))?
4. And is it possible to see the flightplans before actually being transferred? This would be very helpful for my decision.

I'm not shure, whom to ask. But in the past the water cooler always has been very helpful for me...

1. You do get to keep your ratings
2. You get a clean logbook
3. I believe the site is in English

I do not know the answer to 4.
hope this helped

Chase Parker (DVA10028)

DVA2018
Chief Pilot, ERJ-170
OLP, 737-ATP

Joined on November 23 2004
B757 100 Club
50 State Club
Globetrotter
DVA Fleet Master
US Mountaineer Club
US Coastal Club
Everett Tri-Millennium Club
Eight Millennium Club
Ten Million Miles and Beyond
Online Thirty Century
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

Ralston, NE

12,027 legs, 27,063.8 hours
3,951 legs, 7,571.5 hours online
10,785 legs, 22,470.2 hours ACARS
4 legs, 10.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on September 01 2012 14:52 ET by Matthew Whitaker

I was thinking of hopping across the pond for awhile as I really enjoy flying the codeshares and since AF/KLM have more codeshare partners there it opens up more oppurtunities and places to explore. But it would be nice if my flights would transfer over as well. But if they don't, well I guess i will just enjoy the codeshares available. Bummer though......

Matthew Whitaker

Chief Pilot, ERJ-170

Posted onPost created on September 01 2012 15:01 ET by Brandon Howell

Matthew Whitaker wrote:

I was thinking of hopping across the pond for awhile as I really enjoy flying the codeshares and since AF/KLM have more codeshare partners there it opens up more oppurtunities and places to explore. But it would be nice if my flights would transfer over as well. But if they don't, well I guess i will just enjoy the codeshares available. Bummer though......

None of your DVA flights disappear. They'll be transferred as 'total flights' below your name while your AFVA logbook will be clean. If you transferred back, every flight you've flown with DVA would still be there in your DVA logbook and your AFVA flights would be added to your 'total flights.'

Brandon Howell (DVA8752)

Posted onPost created on September 01 2012 15:03 ET by Bryan Klawiter

The way it actually works is you start a new AFV logbook and your DVA logbook stays idle. If you look at my information you will see that I have a total hours in addition to my other hours (dvaHours+afvHour=totalHours). That is because I transferred to AFV for awhile. So if you do ever come back, you pick up were you left off with DVA. Hope that makes sense. So you don't really start over, you are just starting new with AFV.

Bryan Klawiter

Senior Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on September 01 2012 15:04 ET by Bryan Klawiter

Yeah, what Brandon said, lol. I guess he beat me to it.

Bryan Klawiter

Senior Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on September 01 2012 15:17 ET by Matthew Whitaker

So when you look at your logbook, or look at say your flight map, it shows both your delta and your AF flights on there?

Matthew Whitaker

Chief Pilot, ERJ-170

Posted onPost created on September 01 2012 15:23 ET by Bryan Klawiter

No, you are either in one or the other. The only proof of flights that you have from your former airline is the total flights row. They are still there, you just can't see them.

Try to think of them as two separate entities.

I would email Terry with more specific questions.

Bryan Klawiter

Senior Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on September 01 2012 15:33 ET by Matthew Whitaker

thanks for the info Bryan. It would be cool if you could see both on there but I can understand the issues with that from a technical standpoint.

Matthew Whitaker

Chief Pilot, ERJ-170

Posted onPost created on September 04 2012 06:09 ET by Holger Ende

Chase Parker wrote:

Holger Ende wrote:

A transfer might be interesting for me, too!

But I've got a few more questions before I request a transfer:

1. Are my ratings transferred as well? Which means: Am I allowed to use the same aircraft that I'm currently allowed to within DVA?
2. What about my logbook - is it transferred as well or do I loose all of my recent flights?
3. What about the language? Is it french (which might be a big showstopper for me ;-))?
4. And is it possible to see the flightplans before actually being transferred? This would be very helpful for my decision.

I'm not shure, whom to ask. But in the past the water cooler always has been very helpful for me...

1. You do get to keep your ratings
2. You get a clean logbook
3. I believe the site is in English

I do not know the answer to 4.
hope this helped

Chase

After discussing some of my questions with Terry I can give you an update about this:

Your ratings will not be transferred to AFVA. Instead you will be placed into an equipment program that best matches your current stage. After that you only will be allowed to fly all the aircraft (primary and secondary) that are part of this program. For all other types you will have to achieve the ratings again - despite of your former ratings at DVA.
Since the programs of DVA and AFV do not match exactly (e.g. AFV does not have an MD-11 program, this is included in their 747 program) this step means that you might lose or gain some types compared to your former program.

Hope this helped.

Thanks to Terry who has put a lot of effort in the clarification of this issue!

Holger Ende

Captain, MD-11

DVA10720
First Officer, B777-200
OLP

Joined on May 09 2012
50 State Club
Everett Century Club
DVA Two-Year Anniversary
Double Century Club

"The wing is NOT on fire."
Boulder, CO

288 legs, 677.6 hours
74 legs, 127.4 hours online
237 legs, 505.2 hours ACARS
6 legs, 12.1 hours event

Posted onPost created on September 14 2012 18:11 ET by Jaden Rosard

hi, i have a couple questions. lets say i want to go to AFVA for a while, because of the european options, and then i want to fly american so i go back to DVA, and then i want to fly european, and so forth, can i do that, and if i can, will my ratings be perserved in both DVA and AFVA, so if i am a captain in the 737 program at DVA, and i transfer to AFVA and become a first officer in the A320 program, if i switch back to DVA will i be a captain in the 737 program? thanks for any help.

Jaden Rosard

First Officer, B777-200

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