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DVA2086
Senior Captain, B767-300
E-MAIL

Joined on January 12 2005
Online Double Century Club
Six Century Club
50 State Club

Sharpsburg, GA USA

643 legs, 1,866.3 hours
505 legs, 1,417.9 hours online
418 legs, 1,380.2 hours ACARS
63 legs, 196.8 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 16 2012 10:28 ET by Chris Williams

As a programmer I have access to Windows 8 through my MSDN account. While I'm always the first to install new things, I'm hesitant to install Windows 8. I would like to hear from those who have installed the final version of the OS and if you've experienced any issues with FS X.

Chris Williams

Senior Captain, B767-300

DVA455
Senior Captain, MD-88

Joined on April 29 2002
Century Club

"Aquatone"
Shelbyville, IN

132 legs, 255.8 hours
79 legs, 158.6 hours online
29 legs, 52.9 hours ACARS
2 legs, 3.8 hours event
276 legs, 632.7 hours total
23 legs dispatched, 11.3 hours

Posted onPost created on August 16 2012 11:18 ET by Ryan Watkins

I haven't tried FSX with it, but I also got the RTM version via MSDN. All I can say (in my opinion) is stick with 7. RTM is slightly more stable than the beta, but nothing of real value added. Of course I also don't believe in flying the "A" model of anything! Perhaps after a few SPs it will be worth looking into again but I'd say as ME was to XP, and Vista to 7, so is 8 to what will eventually be a decent OS. Everything is being focused on the cloud these days.

if (WindowsVersion == NEW)
do
{
increaseSystemRequirements * 8;
while (addingNothingUseful(pos))
pos++;
}

Ryan Watkins (DVA455)

Posted onPost created on August 16 2012 11:26 ET by Chris Williams

Thanks! I'm just going to install Visual Studio 2012 then and hold off on the OS upgrade.

Chris Williams

Senior Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on August 16 2012 11:34 ET by Ryan Watkins

Let me know what you think of VS12. I still use 10. Send me an email if you get a chance, it's in my profile. What sort of projects you working on?

Ryan Watkins (DVA455)

DVA3931
Senior Captain, L-1011-100
OLP, COMM

Joined on January 19 2007
50 State Club
Tri-Jet Triumph
Million Mile Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Flying Colonel
Globetrotter
Burbank 500 Club
Eurocap Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"De oppresso liber"
Surry, ME

1,882 legs, 3,806.7 hours
478 legs, 767.8 hours online
1,107 legs, 1,674.5 hours ACARS
55 legs, 114.8 hours event
195 legs dispatched, 134.4 hours

Posted onPost created on August 16 2012 14:47 ET by Andrew Kaufmann

Microsoft history:

Windows 2 - Good
Windows NT - ok
Windows 95 - good/buggy
Windows 98 - ok
Windows 2000 - buggy
Windows XP - Good
Windows Vista - Bad/Buggy
Windows 7 - Good

My guess is that W8 will be ok - but lots of bugs and issues - and in about a year they will have something new that will take the bugs from 8, fix them, enhance and have a stable system for a couple 2-3 years before the next buggy one comes out

Andrew Kaufmann (DVA3931)

DVA5974
Captain, B777-200

Joined on May 27 2008
50 State Club
Triple Century Club

Basking Ridge, NJ USA

324 legs, 1,326.6 hours
319 legs, 1,305.4 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on August 17 2012 11:09 ET by Nikolay Klimchuk

I've installed Windows 8 from MSDN yesterday. Did not have a chance to try FSX yet. However issue with dual boot is not fixed.
Every time I go into Windows 8 and then back into Windows 7 I get chkdsk problems on just about every drive.
It's happening because of the fast startup "feature" in Windows 8
Problem/solution described here: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Windows-8-Release-Preview/Windows-8-build-8400-gt-chkdsk-on-boot-up/td-p/1628479

Nikolay Klimchuk (DVA5974)

Posted onPost created on August 17 2012 11:12 ET by Ryan Watkins

XP was pretty good, well still is. Most companies are still using it along with Server 03. It took 3 service packs to get all the little quarks worked out though. Official support for XP will end next year. I like MS OS's but they seem to release stuff too early, just like Vista. Had they waited until they had a fully stable platform and just released 7 everything would have been fine. I think a lot of people were initially turned off from 7 because of the problems Vista had. Either way, at least it's not 3.11 with coax! I still have scars from splicing that stuff.

Ryan Watkins (DVA455)

Posted onPost created on August 17 2012 11:56 ET by Chris Williams

Ryan, I'm a web developer. I use ASP.NET MVC/SQL Server on a daily basis. I installed VS12 last night along side VS10. So far no issues. It was a quick process. I just have to get used to the new look.

Nikolay, keep us updated. I'd be interested in hearing more. I'll probably install Win 8 in a VM. I have 16GB of RAM so I should be fine.

Chris Williams

Senior Captain, B767-300

DVA5974
Captain, B777-200

Joined on May 27 2008
50 State Club
Triple Century Club

Basking Ridge, NJ USA

324 legs, 1,326.6 hours
319 legs, 1,305.4 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on August 17 2012 12:23 ET by Nikolay Klimchuk

Chris, I'm .NET developer as well. Mostly on backend. Do you like gray color scheme in VS12?

Nikolay Klimchuk (DVA5974)

Posted onPost created on August 17 2012 12:23 ET by Ryan Watkins

Same for me. I never took the time to deal with MVC, though. The concept of controllers is beyond the time I have to dedicate to learning the theory. I did buy MVC Unleashed but still haven't taken the plastic off yet.

Ryan Watkins (DVA455)

DVA5974
Captain, B777-200

Joined on May 27 2008
50 State Club
Triple Century Club

Basking Ridge, NJ USA

324 legs, 1,326.6 hours
319 legs, 1,305.4 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on September 03 2012 19:05 ET by Nikolay Klimchuk

Installed FSX + SP1 + SP2 with no problems
Added GTX + UTX again without issues
Was able to install REX Essential but it does not show map and randomly crashes FSX

Nikolay Klimchuk (DVA5974)

AFV295
First Officer, B747-400

Joined on May 13 2010

"Oh look a cloud with a ski lift !"
UK

10 legs, 70.0 hours
8 legs, 58.5 hours online
10 legs, 70.0 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on October 31 2012 11:12 ET by Mark Gronan

Nikolay I think the problem is REX essentials, I too installed it into my FSX and it now randomly crashes on Windows 8

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Diagnostics
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Windows Error Reporting:
+++ WER0 +++:
Fault bucket -966537304, type 5

Event Name: BEX

Response: Not available

Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:

P1: fsx.exe

P2: 10.0.61472.0

P3: 475e17d3

P4: StackHash_2383

P5: 0.0.0.0

P6: 00000000

P7: PCH_35_FROM_ntdll+0x00041318

P8: c0000005

P9: 00000008

P10:

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System Specs
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Operating System: Windows 8 Enterprise Evaluation 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (9200.win8_gdr.120926-1855)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: GFY inc
System Model: Asus Sabertooth 990FX
BIOS: BIOS Date: 10/20/10 09:47:36 Ver: 08.00.10
Processor: AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor (8 CPUs), ~3.1GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 16332MB RAM
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560
Driver File Version: 9.18.0013.0623 (English)

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Sound Devices
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Description: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)

Mark Gronan (AFV295)

AFV651
Captain, B707-320
OLP

Joined on August 04 2011
Historic Two Fifty Club
Diplomatic Mission
50 State Club
Millenium Club
Globetrotter Extraordinaire
Online Triple Century Club

"Concorde: anything else is just SLOW"
Milan, Lombardy Italy

1,087 legs, 2,148.6 hours
304 legs, 494.6 hours online
1,087 legs, 2,148.6 hours ACARS
10 legs, 15.4 hours event
1,410 legs, 2,961.0 hours total

Posted onPost created on October 31 2012 11:24 ET by Luca Di Biase

how can u get the reports of the crashes?

Luca Di Biase (AFV651)

DVA3794
Senior Captain, A320
OLP, 737-ATP

Joined on December 03 2006
50 State Club
Globetrotter
US Coastal Club
Events Quadruple Century
US Mountaineer Club
Everett Bi-Millennium Club
Tri-Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Three Million Mile Club
Online Thirty Century

"volando libero......."
Antarctica

3,459 legs, 8,141.9 hours
3,131 legs, 7,039.5 hours online
3,251 legs, 7,332.7 hours ACARS
478 legs, 964.8 hours event
65 legs dispatched, 72.4 hours

Posted onPost created on October 31 2012 12:17 ET by Vincenzo Musumeci

Luca Di Biase wrote:

how can u get the reports of the crashes?

Start button and type Event viewer

Vincenzo Musumeci (DVA3794)

Posted onPost created on October 31 2012 13:46 ET by Luca Di Biase

Vincenzo Musumeci wrote:

Luca Di Biase wrote:

how can u get the reports of the crashes?

Start button and type Event viewer

grazie Vincenzo
smile

DVA4229
First Officer, B767-300
OLP

Joined on March 19 2007

"Sink rate. Sink Rate."
Southeastern United States

54 legs, 100.9 hours
47 legs, 87.7 hours online
53 legs, 98.4 hours ACARS
7 legs, 11.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on April 12 2014 00:40 ET by Lawrence Woodworth

That BEX crash is related to Windows 7 and 8's "Data Execution Prevention" code. DEP is Windows' watchdog to make sure poorly written or actual malicious programs aren't straying into protected memory locations (like the O/S kernel). If you keep getting BEX errors and it's flagging FSX as the culprit, you can disable DEP - but keep in mind this gets rid of memory protection.

To disable it, open a CMD prompt in administrator mode, then type the following:

bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff

Newer processors have DEP built into the hardware, so I'm unsure if this command also disables the hardware DEP. I know it disables the O/S DEP.

Lawrence Woodworth (DVA4229)

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