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Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | DVA Schedules and Level D 767
DVA1641
Captain, B777-200

Joined on March 22 2004
Everett Century Club
Globetrotter
Double Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"NATCA - FAA Controller"
Hartford, CT

292 legs, 1,319.5 hours
66 legs, 235.0 hours online
222 legs, 1,105.0 hours ACARS
5 legs, 35.2 hours event
Posted onPost created on September 16 2012 22:55 ET by Rob Hernandez
Hey everyone,

For those Level D 767 drivers out there, let me pick your brains for a bit...

Since DAL flies both standard and winglet 767-300s, do any of you differentiate between the two? In other words; do you use your standard flight model for short-medium haul flight and the winglet model for your long haul flights? I have been exclusively flying with the winglet version (especially since most of my flights have been long haul).

What do you guys and gals say?

Rob Hernandez

Captain, B777-200
DVA9720
Captain, A320

Joined on April 11 2011
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Toulouse 250 Club
Quatercentenary Club
Online Century Club

Atlanta, GA

481 legs, 1,702.5 hours
107 legs, 280.5 hours online
481 legs, 1,702.5 hours ACARS
3 legs, 5.2 hours event
Posted onPost created on September 16 2012 23:39 ET by Jerel Wedge
I have been using the winglet model on all flights. However When I used to fly the 757 I would fly the winglet model on long hauls exclusively

Jerel Wedge

Captain, A320
DVA1008
Senior Captain, B757-200

Joined on December 14 2002
B757 100 Club
Everett 250 Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club
Online Six Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"Fly 'till the map turns blue"
Kokomo, IN

633 legs, 1,731.3 hours
613 legs, 1,689.9 hours online
212 legs, 792.3 hours ACARS
35 legs, 77.7 hours event
Posted onPost created on September 17 2012 00:00 ET by Matt Young
No WLs on the short hauls, and WL on the long hauls, kind of been on a 777 bender lately.

Matt Young

Senior Captain, B757-200
DVA8060
First Officer, B737-800

Joined on December 06 2009
B757 100 Club
Online Double Century Club
Everett 250 Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary

Swindon, UK

347 legs, 998.9 hours
280 legs, 861.5 hours online
343 legs, 986.8 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on September 17 2012 04:30 ET by Jamie Moss
I tend to use winglets for international flights and non wl when flying domestic routes

Jamie Moss

First Officer, B737-800
DVA2887
Senior Captain, A320
OLP, 737-ATP, VFRADV
E-MAIL

Joined on January 30 2006
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Tri-Jet Triumph
US Coastal Club
Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
US Mountaineer Club
Toulouse 250 Club
Online Eight Century

Charlotte, NC

1,287 legs, 1,796.9 hours
841 legs, 1,048.5 hours online
1,269 legs, 1,774.9 hours ACARS
31 legs, 49.6 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.5 hours
Posted onPost created on September 17 2012 08:34 ET by Andrew Vane
I dont' fly the 757 that much but when I do its winglets. I like the look. There is a 727 model with winglets but I'm more old school on that Boeing.


DVA1641
Captain, B777-200

Joined on March 22 2004
Everett Century Club
Globetrotter
Double Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"NATCA - FAA Controller"
Hartford, CT

292 legs, 1,319.5 hours
66 legs, 235.0 hours online
222 legs, 1,105.0 hours ACARS
5 legs, 35.2 hours event
Posted onPost created on September 18 2012 22:43 ET by Rob Hernandez
Tks for the replies everyone. Looks like I'll be downloading a sepreate non winglet 76 for my short/medium haul flight.

Rob Hernandez

Captain, B777-200
DVA8752
Captain, B767-300

Joined on January 01 2010
50 State Club
Triple Century Club

Sedalia, CO

338 legs, 1,236.8 hours
31 legs, 181.3 hours online
37 legs, 232.7 hours ACARS
2 legs, 8.4 hours event
Posted onPost created on September 18 2012 23:22 ET by Brandon Howell
Rob Hernandez wrote:

Tks for the replies everyone. Looks like I'll be downloading a sepreate non winglet 76 for my short/medium haul flight.


confused The standard Level-D model does not have winglets. I'm confused as to why you think you need to download anything else.



DVA938
Senior Captain, MD-88

Joined on November 03 2002
Million Mile Club
Online Seven Century Club
50 State Club
Bi-Millennium Club

Dunwoody, GA USA

2,132 legs, 4,949.7 hours
1,197 legs, 2,739.0 hours online
1,301 legs, 3,486.7 hours ACARS
16 legs, 39.5 hours event
Posted onPost created on September 19 2012 05:53 ET by Jared Angstadt
Rob Hernandez wrote:

Hey everyone,

For those Level D 767 drivers out there, let me pick your brains for a bit...

Since DAL flies both standard and winglet 767-300s, do any of you differentiate between the two? In other words; do you use your standard flight model for short-medium haul flight and the winglet model for your long haul flights? I have been exclusively flying with the winglet version (especially since most of my flights have been long haul).

What do you guys and gals say?


The real differeance is the ZFW is higher on the winglet version

Jared Angstadt

Senior Captain, MD-88
DVA1641
Captain, B777-200

Joined on March 22 2004
Everett Century Club
Globetrotter
Double Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"NATCA - FAA Controller"
Hartford, CT

292 legs, 1,319.5 hours
66 legs, 235.0 hours online
222 legs, 1,105.0 hours ACARS
5 legs, 35.2 hours event
Posted onPost created on September 19 2012 11:33 ET by Rob Hernandez
Brandon Howell wrote:

Rob Hernandez wrote:

Tks for the replies everyone. Looks like I'll be downloading a sepreate non winglet 76 for my short/medium haul flight.


confused The standard Level-D model does not have winglets. I'm confused as to why you think you need to download anything else.


A DAL repaint I meant...

Rob Hernandez

Captain, B777-200
DVA5162
Captain, B767-300

Joined on October 15 2007
DVA Five-Year Anniversary

"We live and die by the ADI"
Wexford Ireland

89 legs, 447.4 hours
86 legs, 438.8 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on September 20 2012 12:35 ET by James Webster
As I use Project magenta merged with the LDS for my sim I only use the standard version as I don't have fuel burn and performance data for the WL version. i would be interested in getting hold of some weights for all DAL 767s. For example at BA they have one type. 767-336. But there are three weight variations in relation to ZFW were by the ZFW is artificially lower on two variations to keep Nav and Landing charges down on certain sectors. Does DAL have a similar system given the size of the 767 fleet specifically on the 300s?

James

James Webster

Captain, B767-300
DVA9571
Senior Captain, B767-300

Joined on March 10 2011
Everett 500 Club
Online Quintuple Century Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
Six Century Club

Miami, FL USA

612 legs, 2,333.0 hours
590 legs, 2,242.9 hours online
602 legs, 2,307.3 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on September 25 2012 19:51 ET by Bob Klemm
I use the non-winglet version for shorter/domestic flights, and the winglet version for long haul. I also try to do a more "scientific" study and use airliners.net or JetPhotos.net to search for Delta 767s at a particular international airport, and see if there are recent photos that will show which models they're using. I know that the 757s are basically hit or miss though - seems to be wl one day and non-w/l the next.

Bob Klemm

Senior Captain, B767-300


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