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Posted onPost created on January 08 2013 07:14 ET by Nikolay Klimchuk

Now LGA1150 is the future. Before that it was LGA1155 and LGA2011. Is anybody understand why they are doing it so often?

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Intel-LGA-1150-Socket-Will-Be-Compatible-with-2014-Broadwell-CPUs-Report-252467.shtml

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Posted onPost created on January 08 2013 08:11 ET by Peter Bagrationoff

Newer technology and brilliant marketing. The same reason people still buy Apple products except in the case of Intel they are truly innovative.

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Posted onPost created on January 08 2013 13:38 ET by Rahul Parkar

Probably because LGA1150 is the die shrink of the Haswell architechture, hence the socket change to accommodate the 14nm processor transistors.

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Posted onPost created on January 08 2013 22:33 ET by Caleb Williams

Same reason camera manufactures make constantly larger and larger MegaByte counts in their cameras. Marketing.

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Posted onPost created on January 09 2013 05:02 ET by Rahul Parkar

Caleb Williams wrote:

Same reason camera manufactures make constantly larger and larger MegaByte counts in their cameras. Marketing.

This is not true when it comes to processor sockets. There's a real technical reason as to why the socket type is changing with the release of new processor architecture.

You do realize that socket types must always change with the processor architecture to maximize the efficiency of the processor.

It's not a marketing scheme.

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Posted onPost created on January 09 2013 13:48 ET by Caleb Williams

Rahul Parkar wrote:

Caleb Williams wrote:

Same reason camera manufactures make constantly larger and larger MegaByte counts in their cameras. Marketing.

This is not true when it comes to processor sockets. There's a real technical reason as to why the socket type is changing with the release of new processor architecture.

You do realize that socket types must always change with the processor architecture to maximize the efficiency of the processor.

It's not a marketing scheme.

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Rahul

In the technical sense yes, but I do feel as though Intel could wait a bit and make a larger difference than 5 nanometers. (I know there other differences between them as well.

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Posted onPost created on January 09 2013 15:24 ET by Bill Gardiner

"You do realize that socket types must always change with the processor architecture to maximize the efficiency of the processor."

Not necessarily true. The 1155 socket has accommodated a whole range of cpu's, including most of the Ivy Bridge ones. It's when they change the die that they require a new socket. If it was Intel's choiice they'd keep the same socket forever because it would make motherboard manufacturing a lot easier and thus sell more cpu's. They do it because they have to, not because they want to. It is not a conspircacy.

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Posted onPost created on January 10 2013 05:46 ET by Rahul Parkar

Bill,

The changing of the die was what I was referring to, just typed it up quickly on the phone. Thanks for correcting me!

Also, Caleb, It's taken Intel roughly 6 years to hit this tick which is an 8nm change in size (Huge when you consider how small we're talking) from 22nm to 14nm in preparation for Broadwell. (Processor architecture development is done in parallel, so when work on Nehalem finished, Broadwell was most likely beginning to pick up development time.) When the processor dies shrink, the sockets change to accommodate this. Also, it's a partly to do with the Moore's law and Intel's philosophy, which is to try and double the number of transistors every 18-24 months (Seems to be increasing to 36 now). And when that happens, processors become faster, hence the lovely Ivy Bridge chips we have today in comparison to what Intel called the "core" architecture (Released as Core 2 duo etc.) We could slow that down, and not change sockets, but then we'd be stuck at Pentium levels of performance if the hypothetical situations with that panned out.

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