Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - Schedule Guidelines = 23.9 hour flight?

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | Schedule Guidelines = 23.9 hour flight?

DVA11253
First Officer, B757-200

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Posted onPost created on February 11 2013 05:08 ET by Ray Cleefman

Just finished DVH 260 Leg 3 (KEWR - KPWM) in a L-100, duration 1.5 hours, and when filing the report it said the flight was outside the schedule guidelines of 23.9 hours?!? Currently the route is flown by Continental w/ ERJ-135 and ERJ-145 and they can do it under an hour (though their cruise is 120 ktas greater than the L-100). While it's true that a C-130's record for the longest non-stop flight is around 36 hours (if memory serves and it hasn't been broken yet) there were 7 mid-air refuelings during that flight

While I understand this is probably a bug (I hope :)) why would our schedule even accept as valid a 23.9 hour flight leg?

Ray Cleefman (DVA11253)

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Posted onPost created on February 11 2013 09:11 ET by Jason Boche

I've seen that error with event related legs but I don't know how or why it's generated. At any rate, those pireps are still approved in my experience.

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Posted onPost created on February 12 2013 00:51 ET by Charles Carter

Ray Cleefman wrote:

Just finished DVH 260 Leg 3 (KEWR - KPWM) in a L-100, duration 1.5 hours, and when filing the report it said the flight was outside the schedule guidelines of 23.9 hours?!? Currently the route is flown by Continental w/ ERJ-135 and ERJ-145 and they can do it under an hour (though their cruise is 120 ktas greater than the L-100). While it's true that a C-130's record for the longest non-stop flight is around 36 hours (if memory serves and it hasn't been broken yet) there were 7 mid-air refuelings during that flight

While I understand this is probably a bug (I hope :)) why would our schedule even accept as valid a 23.9 hour flight leg?

I can't help much with the DVA issue, but it's been my understanding that the B2 Bomber has done longer flights. I have absolutely no way to back that up, but it's just something I heard from the type of "ultra long range" training their crews go through.

Charles Carter

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Posted onPost created on February 15 2013 00:35 ET by Ray Cleefman

There have definitely been longer flights than 36 hours by other aircraft, I was just referring to the longest flight by a C-130 type aircraft.

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Posted onPost created on February 15 2013 20:15 ET by Jonathan Leung

I have heard from multiple sources that E-4/VC-25 can stay in the air for up to 48hrs, reason is food/water and engine oil, not fuel.

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Posted onPost created on February 16 2013 07:35 ET by Charles Carter

Ray Cleefman wrote:

There have definitely been longer flights than 36 hours by other aircraft, I was just referring to the longest flight by a C-130 type aircraft.

Gotcha! :-)

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Posted onPost created on February 16 2013 20:39 ET by Alex Jevdic

Ray Cleefman wrote:

There have definitely been longer flights than 36 hours by other aircraft, I was just referring to the longest flight by a C-130 type aircraft.

2 months solid is a good record.

http://rnjennison.xanga.com/709208045/the-world-record-longest-flight-in-a-single-engine-airplane/

Alex Jevdic (DVA3952)

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