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Ok, my turn - any comments for this rig specs? |
DVA3931
Senior Captain, L-1011-100
OLP, COMM
Joined on January 19 2007
50 State Club
Tri-Jet Triumph
Million Mile Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Flying Colonel
Globetrotter
Burbank 500 Club
Eurocap Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"De oppresso liber"
Surry, ME
1,882 legs, 3,806.7 hours
478 legs,
767.8 hours online
1,107 legs,
1,674.5 hours ACARS
55 legs,
114.8 hours event
195 legs dispatched, 134.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
May 06 2013 19:21 ET by Andrew Kaufmann
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CASE: Enermax Hoplite ST Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Hot-swap HDD Dock & Front Panel USB3.0 (Black Color)
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3820 Quad-Core 3.60 GHz 10MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified)
CS_FAN: Maximum 120MM Color Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+15] (Green Color [+0])
FA_HDD: Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System [+21] (1 x System)
FAN: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer [+10] (BLACK COLOR)
FREEBIE_CU: FREE 500GB External Hard Drive with Intel® Core™ i7 or Intel® Core™ i5 based PCs [+0]
HDD: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
HDD2: 500GB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200 RPM HDD [+91] (Single Drive)
IEEE_CARD: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
MEMORY: 32GB (8GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Quad Channel Memory [+179] (Corsair or Major Brand)
MOTHERBOARD: (3-Way SLI/CrossFireX Support) ASUS P9X79 LE Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX w/ Remote GO!, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3 Gen3 PCIe X16, 2 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI
POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+275] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
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DVA8752
Captain, B767-300
Joined on January 01 2010
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
Sedalia, CO
338 legs, 1,236.8 hours
31 legs,
181.3 hours online
37 legs,
232.7 hours ACARS
2 legs,
8.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 06 2013 19:56 ET by Brandon Howell
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That's a lot of memory. You don't need more than 8-16 GB. Would also change the CPU to an i5.
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DVA3196
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP, COMM
Joined on June 03 2006
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club
"pitchpowertrim.com"
Anderson, MO
619 legs, 1,093.4 hours
292 legs,
503.1 hours online
580 legs,
1,026.5 hours ACARS
89 legs,
191.0 hours event
236 legs dispatched, 110.1
hours
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Posted onPost created on
May 06 2013 20:24 ET by Michael Brown
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Only two built in USB 2.0 ports?? .... blahhh ...
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DVA1416
Captain, B747-400
Joined on December 06 2003
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Quad-Jet Quartermaster
Everett 500 Club
Million Mile Club
Yellow Bird Club
Millennium Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
"Keep the blue side up!"
Rotterdam, Zuid-Holland Netherlands
1,013 legs, 2,904.3 hours
43 legs,
103.4 hours online
936 legs,
2,617.7 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 02:19 ET by Luc Maaskant
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I agree with Brandon. The 3820 is a CPU created for people who want to run 3 or 4 GPU's, but don't have the money for a 1000$ CPU. It is actually slower than a i7 3770K. As FSX can't take any advantage from hyperthreading, the high end i5 is still the best FSX cpu. Why not invest that money on a SSD?
Luc MaaskantCaptain, B747-400
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DVA10131
Captain, MD-11
E-MAIL
Joined on August 29 2011
50 State Club
Century Club
Online Century Club
"If it's not Boeing, I'm not going"
Charleston, SC USA
136 legs, 473.3 hours
123 legs,
428.0 hours online
130 legs,
451.7 hours ACARS
11 legs,
38.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 02:30 ET by Robbie Johnson
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A terrible choice for flight sim. First of all I would recommend building yourself, you could save a lot of money and end up with a much more balanced system. An i5-3570k is more than enough for gaming or flight sim, with anything in the i7 range only really needing to be used for heavily multithreaded processes. You would be better off with a different cooler; either an H100i, Kraken x60, or Swiftech H220 if you insist of watercooling, otherwise I would just throw a Hyper 212 Evo in and call it a day. 8GB of RAM is more than enough, you will never use anything close to 32GB. There is no real point in having 2 HDD's, I would swap out the 500gb for an SSD. Finally, multiple GPU's actually decreases performance in FSX (as for other games, google 'microstuttering'). A single 660ti would be more than enough for FSX but for gaming you could go with a 670 or 680 and still come out cheaper than 2x 660ti's. I would be more than happy to help you build it yourself, just give me your budget and uses outside of flight sim and I'll throw a parts list together for you.
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DVA3931
Senior Captain, L-1011-100
OLP, COMM
Joined on January 19 2007
50 State Club
Tri-Jet Triumph
Million Mile Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Flying Colonel
Globetrotter
Burbank 500 Club
Eurocap Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"De oppresso liber"
Surry, ME
1,882 legs, 3,806.7 hours
478 legs,
767.8 hours online
1,107 legs,
1,674.5 hours ACARS
55 legs,
114.8 hours event
195 legs dispatched, 134.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 08:37 ET by Andrew Kaufmann
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Robbie - check your email...thanks much.
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DVA10131
Captain, MD-11
E-MAIL
Joined on August 29 2011
50 State Club
Century Club
Online Century Club
"If it's not Boeing, I'm not going"
Charleston, SC USA
136 legs, 473.3 hours
123 legs,
428.0 hours online
130 legs,
451.7 hours ACARS
11 legs,
38.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 12:33 ET by Robbie Johnson
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I replied to your e-mail with info on choices for all of the parts, but here is what I came up with in case anyone else is interested:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($5.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($82.13 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($489.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.94 @ Outlet PC)
Other: 8 Pin Extension ($5.99)
Total: $1807.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-07 12:31 EDT-0400)
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DVA2230
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on March 28 2005
Globetrotter
Everett 1500 Club
Online Fifteen Century
Bi-Millennium Club
Eight Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
"Come Fly with me!....."
Álvaro Obregón, D.f. México
2,331 legs, 17,045.4 hours
1,778 legs,
12,845.3 hours online
1,390 legs,
10,107.6 hours ACARS
1 legs,
11.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 14:16 ET by Isidoro Attie
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Im also thinking of building a new system, taking into consideration Robbie's last post. A question though, Youre suggesting two HDs, one 3TB and a SSD. The purpose for this is to have the sim installed in the HD and the OS on the SSD? Or with one HD would be just fine?
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AFV744
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP
Joined on April 27 2012
Diplomatic Mission
Globetrotter Extraordinaire
50 State Club
The Penguins Of Madagascar
Online Five Hundred Club
Event Century Club
Double Millenium Club
Historic Quadricentenary Club
Five Million Mile Club
Wellington, NS Canada
2,468 legs, 10,374.5 hours
752 legs,
1,426.3 hours online
2,468 legs,
10,374.5 hours ACARS
238 legs,
466.0 hours event
3,528 legs, 15,773.5 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 14:28 ET by Bill Gardiner
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Much better to have the sim installed on its own drive. I have it installed on an SSD, which doesn't improve FPS but drastically improves load times and I'm convinced (and so are many others) that it loads scenery fast enough that it contributes to less stutters.
Bill GardinerSenior Captain, B747-400
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DVA2230
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on March 28 2005
Globetrotter
Everett 1500 Club
Online Fifteen Century
Bi-Millennium Club
Eight Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
"Come Fly with me!....."
Álvaro Obregón, D.f. México
2,331 legs, 17,045.4 hours
1,778 legs,
12,845.3 hours online
1,390 legs,
10,107.6 hours ACARS
1 legs,
11.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 14:38 ET by Isidoro Attie
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Doesnt having the OS and the Sim in different drives affect stability? with OC machines? And Im thinking, a 256GB SSD is enough for FSX and all its add ons? Even if almost having it full?
Greatly appreciated!
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DVA3931
Senior Captain, L-1011-100
OLP, COMM
Joined on January 19 2007
50 State Club
Tri-Jet Triumph
Million Mile Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Flying Colonel
Globetrotter
Burbank 500 Club
Eurocap Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"De oppresso liber"
Surry, ME
1,882 legs, 3,806.7 hours
478 legs,
767.8 hours online
1,107 legs,
1,674.5 hours ACARS
55 legs,
114.8 hours event
195 legs dispatched, 134.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 14:46 ET by Andrew Kaufmann
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I currently have FSX on it's own drive and like Bill said - loading is much faster
Robbie - thanks much
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AFV744
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP
Joined on April 27 2012
Diplomatic Mission
Globetrotter Extraordinaire
50 State Club
The Penguins Of Madagascar
Online Five Hundred Club
Event Century Club
Double Millenium Club
Historic Quadricentenary Club
Five Million Mile Club
Wellington, NS Canada
2,468 legs, 10,374.5 hours
752 legs,
1,426.3 hours online
2,468 legs,
10,374.5 hours ACARS
238 legs,
466.0 hours event
3,528 legs, 15,773.5 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 14:52 ET by Bill Gardiner
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nothing but positive effects on stability. I have a 256GB SSD for FSX and have 65GB free. But I have all my mesh and some photo scenery on it too. I'm thinking of moving those to a different drive at some point. But I have a lot of stuff. And having an SSD almost full is not the same as a regular drive. You don't have to defrag it and when nearly full it still operates at optimum speed. I forget when it slows down but it's something like 90%. You might want to double check that. And if you have lots of RAM you don't need a swap file. There are differing opinions on this but I've had mine off for a year and no problems. That way I can get by with a 64gb SSD for my OS. But If I was to do it again I'd get a slightly bigger OS SSD.
Bill GardinerSenior Captain, B747-400
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DVA9545
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP, 737-ATP
Joined on March 03 2011
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Quad-Jet Quartermaster
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Toulouse 500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Online Twenty Century
"YUPIIIII"
Goiás Brazil
2,496 legs, 5,046.5 hours
2,325 legs,
4,768.1 hours online
2,488 legs,
5,016.9 hours ACARS
271 legs,
683.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 15:28 ET by Thiago Braga
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Robbie,
He can go with EVGA Ge Force GTX680 with 4GB at amazon for the same amount.
Nice config though
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AFV744
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP
Joined on April 27 2012
Diplomatic Mission
Globetrotter Extraordinaire
50 State Club
The Penguins Of Madagascar
Online Five Hundred Club
Event Century Club
Double Millenium Club
Historic Quadricentenary Club
Five Million Mile Club
Wellington, NS Canada
2,468 legs, 10,374.5 hours
752 legs,
1,426.3 hours online
2,468 legs,
10,374.5 hours ACARS
238 legs,
466.0 hours event
3,528 legs, 15,773.5 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 15:49 ET by Bill Gardiner
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Nice system!
Bill GardinerSenior Captain, B747-400
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DVA10131
Captain, MD-11
E-MAIL
Joined on August 29 2011
50 State Club
Century Club
Online Century Club
"If it's not Boeing, I'm not going"
Charleston, SC USA
136 legs, 473.3 hours
123 legs,
428.0 hours online
130 legs,
451.7 hours ACARS
11 legs,
38.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 17:36 ET by Robbie Johnson
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Isidoro Attie wrote:
Im also thinking of building a new system, taking into consideration Robbie's last post. A question though, Youre suggesting two HDs, one 3TB and a SSD. The purpose for this is to have the sim installed in the HD and the OS on the SSD? Or with one HD would be just fine?
Sort of; The OS, FSX, and frequently used programs would be on the SSD while the HDD would be for storing other files. On a budget you could also use a smaller SSD as a cache for the larger HDD and get SSD performance on your most frequently used files without having to shell out $200+ on a larger SSD or moving things between drives all the time.
Thiago Braga wrote:
Robbie,
He can go with EVGA Ge Force GTX680 with 4GB at amazon for the same amount.
Nice config though
The only EVGA 680 4GB I saw on Amazon was ~$70 more. In his case it may be somewhat beneficial to his build to spend the extra money, but I doubt he would see much of a difference for the extra money unless he was using NVidia Surround. That said if I overlooked the one you are talking about would you mind posting a link so I can have a look? Thanks!
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DVA9545
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP, 737-ATP
Joined on March 03 2011
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Quad-Jet Quartermaster
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Toulouse 500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Online Twenty Century
"YUPIIIII"
Goiás Brazil
2,496 legs, 5,046.5 hours
2,325 legs,
4,768.1 hours online
2,488 legs,
5,016.9 hours ACARS
271 legs,
683.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 17:59 ET by Thiago Braga
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Robbie;
I went here: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=gtx+680+4gb&sprefix=gtx+680+%2Caps%2C237
I was looking into this one: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-DisplayPort-Graphics-04G-P4-3687-KR/dp/B0083YF55U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367963328&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx+680+4gb (with USD20.00 rebate) total USD528.06.
I actually looking to buy this one for USD466.00 used: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0083YF55U/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=1367963328&sr=8-1 (But a few more I`ll get new for USD528.00.
Of course if you just running FS you don`t not even close to 2GB.
I heard that the best Video Card for FS is this one: GTX 660Ti 2GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130809&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL050713&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL050713-_-EMC-050713-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsVideoCards-_-14130809-L0D
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DVA9545
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP, 737-ATP
Joined on March 03 2011
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Quad-Jet Quartermaster
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Toulouse 500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Online Twenty Century
"YUPIIIII"
Goiás Brazil
2,496 legs, 5,046.5 hours
2,325 legs,
4,768.1 hours online
2,488 legs,
5,016.9 hours ACARS
271 legs,
683.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 18:00 ET by Thiago Braga
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There is also a Discount on that GTX 660 Ti for USD28.60 using this code: EMCXRXN25
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DVA10131
Captain, MD-11
E-MAIL
Joined on August 29 2011
50 State Club
Century Club
Online Century Club
"If it's not Boeing, I'm not going"
Charleston, SC USA
136 legs, 473.3 hours
123 legs,
428.0 hours online
130 legs,
451.7 hours ACARS
11 legs,
38.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 18:14 ET by Robbie Johnson
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Thanks Thiago, I think I will have him stick with the 2GB; The main reason I chose that one was for the non-reference cooling. The FTW is still tempting though since they typically have binned GPUs. As for sticking with the 680 over the 660Ti he mentioned he does video editing and if he uses any software that takes advantage of CUDA he will see a significant performance increase in the 680 over the 660Ti.
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DVA9545
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP, 737-ATP
Joined on March 03 2011
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Quad-Jet Quartermaster
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Toulouse 500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Online Twenty Century
"YUPIIIII"
Goiás Brazil
2,496 legs, 5,046.5 hours
2,325 legs,
4,768.1 hours online
2,488 legs,
5,016.9 hours ACARS
271 legs,
683.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 18:37 ET by Thiago Braga
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Robbie,
Good to know. I`m just waiting the prices of the GTX680 to go down so I can purchase. Looking for less than USD400.00s
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DVA10131
Captain, MD-11
E-MAIL
Joined on August 29 2011
50 State Club
Century Club
Online Century Club
"If it's not Boeing, I'm not going"
Charleston, SC USA
136 legs, 473.3 hours
123 legs,
428.0 hours online
130 legs,
451.7 hours ACARS
11 legs,
38.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 18:46 ET by Robbie Johnson
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Probably won't happen anytime soon, a good 580 is still more than $400.
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DVA7729
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP
Joined on September 09 2009
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
Online Triple Century Club
Globetrotter
"Roar like GE-90s!"
Mississauga, ON Canada
396 legs, 1,741.6 hours
380 legs,
1,692.7 hours online
391 legs,
1,702.2 hours ACARS
46 legs,
113.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 19:10 ET by Shahzeb Bhutto
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I agree with Robbie's suggestions. I have built my rig according to his suggested list in this thread: http://www.deltava.org/thread.do?id=0x1bf75 . With overclocking the i5 3570K to 4.4GHz, the performance in FSX is excellent! FPS is constant at 30 locked using nvidia inspector (jumps back to around 25 in heavy airports) on NGX. The settings are almost at max. It was quite surprising to see this type of performance on a rig built in a budget of about $800.
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DVA10131
Captain, MD-11
E-MAIL
Joined on August 29 2011
50 State Club
Century Club
Online Century Club
"If it's not Boeing, I'm not going"
Charleston, SC USA
136 legs, 473.3 hours
123 legs,
428.0 hours online
130 legs,
451.7 hours ACARS
11 legs,
38.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 19:34 ET by Robbie Johnson
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Thanks Shahzeb, I'm glad to hear everything is still going well!
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DVA9545
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP, 737-ATP
Joined on March 03 2011
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Quad-Jet Quartermaster
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Toulouse 500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Online Twenty Century
"YUPIIIII"
Goiás Brazil
2,496 legs, 5,046.5 hours
2,325 legs,
4,768.1 hours online
2,488 legs,
5,016.9 hours ACARS
271 legs,
683.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 07 2013 21:06 ET by Thiago Braga
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Robbie Johnson wrote:
Probably won't happen anytime soon, a good 580 is still more than $400.
Robbie, you gotta playing around with coupons and discounts. The 680`s was more than USD600.00 when came out, than came out the GTX 690 prices on GTX`s dropped.
I`m so confident that I will be purchasing the 680 for less than USD400.00.
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DVA8158
Captain, B767-300
OLP
Joined on December 31 2009
Century Club
Online Century Club
50 State Club
"Eight hours bottle to throttle."
Newnan, GA USA
197 legs, 437.5 hours
161 legs,
329.8 hours online
196 legs,
435.9 hours ACARS
5 legs,
17.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 08 2013 09:17 ET by Peter Bagrationoff
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Doing a dual GPU SLI or Crossfire setup is a waste for FSX in my opinion. Get a single GTX680 as others have suggested. I have a single GTX660TI and average about 28 to 32 FPS in the PMDG 737NGX with sliders at 75% using Opus FSX and AS2012 textures while flying online.
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AFV744
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP
Joined on April 27 2012
Diplomatic Mission
Globetrotter Extraordinaire
50 State Club
The Penguins Of Madagascar
Online Five Hundred Club
Event Century Club
Double Millenium Club
Historic Quadricentenary Club
Five Million Mile Club
Wellington, NS Canada
2,468 legs, 10,374.5 hours
752 legs,
1,426.3 hours online
2,468 legs,
10,374.5 hours ACARS
238 legs,
466.0 hours event
3,528 legs, 15,773.5 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
May 08 2013 12:48 ET by Bill Gardiner
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Yes, dual GPU's speed up most everything but can actually slow down FSX.
Bill GardinerSenior Captain, B747-400
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DVA2230
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on March 28 2005
Globetrotter
Everett 1500 Club
Online Fifteen Century
Bi-Millennium Club
Eight Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
"Come Fly with me!....."
Álvaro Obregón, D.f. México
2,331 legs, 17,045.4 hours
1,778 legs,
12,845.3 hours online
1,390 legs,
10,107.6 hours ACARS
1 legs,
11.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 09 2013 15:06 ET by Isidoro Attie
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Ok guys, for your final thoughts, this is what I can build here in mexico...
+ INTEL CORE i7 – 3770K, 3.5 GHZ ………………..
+ MB ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 ………………
+ 16 GB MEMORIA RAM DD3, 16OO MHZ ……
+ SSD A-DATA, 256 GB …………………………………
+ HD SEAGATE 2 TB, 7200 RPM …………….……..
+ GEFORCE GTX 680, 2 GB RAM …………………..
+ DVD-RW LG, 24X ………………………………………
+ WINDOWS 7 PRO, 64 BITS …………………………
+ GABINET C. MASTER TROOPER …….
Will this work for Overcloking? Im thinking this system should last about two years running FSX and its add ons smoothly...
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DVA10131
Captain, MD-11
E-MAIL
Joined on August 29 2011
50 State Club
Century Club
Online Century Club
"If it's not Boeing, I'm not going"
Charleston, SC USA
136 legs, 473.3 hours
123 legs,
428.0 hours online
130 legs,
451.7 hours ACARS
11 legs,
38.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 09 2013 15:43 ET by Robbie Johnson
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Isidoro Attie wrote:
Ok guys, for your final thoughts, this is what I can build here in mexico...
+ INTEL CORE i7 – 3770K, 3.5 GHZ ………………..
+ MB ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 ………………
+ 16 GB MEMORIA RAM DD3, 16OO MHZ ……
+ SSD A-DATA, 256 GB …………………………………
+ HD SEAGATE 2 TB, 7200 RPM …………….……..
+ GEFORCE GTX 680, 2 GB RAM …………………..
+ DVD-RW LG, 24X ………………………………………
+ WINDOWS 7 PRO, 64 BITS …………………………
+ GABINET C. MASTER TROOPER …….
Will this work for Overcloking? Im thinking this system should last about two years running FSX and its add ons smoothly...
You should probably make your own thread for this but you should probably change the CPU to a 3570k, 8GB of RAM is more than enough for most uses, and if you want to overclock you will need a aftermarket CPU cooler such as the Hyper 212 Evo.
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Posted onPost created on
May 09 2013 18:06 ET by Thiago Braga
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Like Robbie said; You don`t need 16 GB of RAM as 8 is enough. If you want to Overclocking, I would try the software from INTEL: Intel Extreme Tuning utility: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/desktop-boards-software-extreme-tuning-utility.html
It should do the work for you as did on mine.
By the way, I didn`t see a CPU cooler there; as its a must!
Good luck
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Posted onPost created on
May 09 2013 21:16 ET by Robbie Johnson
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I would strongly recommend doing any overclocking in the BIOS. It leads to more stable overclocks and is just as easy.
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Posted onPost created on
May 10 2013 11:42 ET by Thiago Braga
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I tried over the BIOS and I was unable to get stable.
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Posted onPost created on
May 16 2013 08:17 ET by Peter Bagrationoff
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i7 3750 is really all you need. I got the 3770k because it was a great price at the time and have hyperthreading turned off because FSX runs smoother without it. I would also recommend a liquid CPU cooler if you want to overclock and don't want a lot of noise. I got the Corsair H80 and overclocked to 4.5 Ghz in BIOS smooth as silk with max temps in the mid to upper 60's in FSX.
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Posted onPost created on
May 17 2013 12:00 ET by Isidoro Attie
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I promess, its the last question....
I just cant see any difference and Im about to buy one...
EVGA Superclocked, Signature 2 02G-P4-2687-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ...
Item #: N82E16814130797
OR
EVGA SuperClocked+ 02G-P4-2684-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814130771
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Posted onPost created on
May 17 2013 12:13 ET by Jason Boche
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Just a heads up word of warning to those out there with the Intel Core i7 3770k processor - stick with the ASUS P8Z77-V LX series or similar motherboard to support the tremendous overclock capability of the 3770k. Some prebuilt package rigs are shipping with a Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H or similar motherboard variant which doesn't support overclocking with the 3770k. IMO Gigabyte is a great MB and you'll still have a good box but you'll never be able to OC w/o the right MB.
Someone also passed along this resource to me. An outfit named Jetline Systems specializes in FS rigs. The information here is kept up to date and can help guide enthusiasts with component selection:
http://www.jetlinesystems.com/performance.php
Jason BocheAssistant Chief Pilot, B757-200
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Posted onPost created on
May 17 2013 20:23 ET by Jason Boche
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I purchased my parts this afternoon and should start assembly tonight after FNO and a final backup of my current system completes.
Here it is:
Asus P8Z77-V LX 1155 motherboard
Intel Core i7 3770k processor, 3.5GHz stock OC to 4.5GHz
16GB Crucial DDR3 1866MHz CL9 memory
MSI (GeForce) GTX660TI 2GB video card (4 display support, looked at the 680s but frankly can't justify the price tag)
Corsair Hydro H8-I liquid cooling (already have one of these on old system, works well)
Corsair 750W CX2 power supply
Pair of 128GB Crucial SSD M4 drives (txfer over from my old system)
Seagate 3TB 7200RPM SATA drive (Megascenery armed)
LG 24X DVDRW/Blu-Ray
Corsair Vengeance C70 ATX case
Reese's Peanut Butter Cups
Jason BocheAssistant Chief Pilot, B757-200
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Posted onPost created on
May 17 2013 22:29 ET by Robbie Johnson
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Isidoro Attie wrote:
I promess, its the last question....
I just cant see any difference and Im about to buy one...
EVGA Superclocked, Signature 2 02G-P4-2687-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ...
Item #: N82E16814130797
OR
EVGA SuperClocked+ 02G-P4-2684-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814130771
The first one has a non-reference cooler and a higher factory overclock. If they are the same price I would go with that one.
Jason Boche wrote:
I purchased my parts this afternoon and should start assembly tonight after FNO and a final backup of my current system completes.
Here it is:
Asus P8Z77-V LX 1155 motherboard
Intel Core i7 3770k processor, 3.5GHz stock OC to 4.5GHz
16GB Crucial DDR3 1866MHz CL9 memory
MSI (GeForce) GTX660TI 2GB video card (4 display support, looked at the 680s but frankly can't justify the price tag)
Corsair Hydro H8-I liquid cooling (already have one of these on old system, works well)
Corsair 750W CX2 power supply
Pair of 128GB Crucial SSD M4 drives (txfer over from my old system)
Seagate 3TB 7200RPM SATA drive (Megascenery armed)
LG 24X DVDRW/Blu-Ray
Corsair Vengeance C70 ATX case
Reese's Peanut Butter Cups
Looks good; any reason you went with the 3770k over the 3570k? Also 8GB of RAM is sufficient although the extra won't hurt. You also need to be sure you got the king size peanut butter cups, they tend to be a better value :).
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Posted onPost created on
June 11 2013 13:37 ET by Isidoro Attie
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Guys, sorry to ask, but is can anyone here provide me with some kind of assistance or guide for overclocking the I7 3770k? I know its a trial and error process, but perhaps somebody has the system with these specs already running and can give me a head start as on what values to try on the BIOS?
Greatly appreciated!
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Posted onPost created on
June 11 2013 15:19 ET by Jason Boche
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Using an Asus motherboard I set the turbo over lock to 43 which gets me up to a stable 4.3GHz.
Jason BocheAssistant Chief Pilot, B757-200
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Posted onPost created on
June 11 2013 16:43 ET by Robbie Johnson
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Isidoro Attie wrote:
Guys, sorry to ask, but is can anyone here provide me with some kind of assistance or guide for overclocking the I7 3770k? I know its a trial and error process, but perhaps somebody has the system with these specs already running and can give me a head start as on what values to try on the BIOS?
Greatly appreciated!
The full process is very necessary because every chip is different. If you would like I can send (or post it here if others are interested) you an overclocking guide I wrote for another DVA member. It was specific to the 3570K and the P8Z77-LK but the process is pretty much the same for all of Ivy Bridge.
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Posted onPost created on
June 11 2013 18:51 ET by Isidoro Attie
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That would definately help Robbie, thanks! Can you email it to me?
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Posted onPost created on
June 11 2013 19:23 ET by Robbie Johnson
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It is sent.
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Posted onPost created on
June 11 2013 19:43 ET by Andrew Kaufmann
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Been looking and this is what I'm narrowing down to:
Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz
ASUS Sabertooth Z77 Motherboard
32GB - Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz DDR3 8GB (4x8GB)
Corsair H80i H2O CPU Cooler
Corsair AX1200i Modular Power Supply
LG 24X DVD-RW Combo
x2 EVGA Nvidia GTX 780 in SLI
Western Digital Black 1TB - 7200RPM 3.5" HDD
Western Digital Black 500GB - 7200RPM 3.5" HDD
Corsair NeutronGTX 240GB SSD
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Posted onPost created on
June 11 2013 21:19 ET by Brandon Howell
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32 GB is a lot of RAM. You don't usually need more than 16 GB.
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Posted onPost created on
June 11 2013 21:27 ET by Bill Gardiner
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SLI certainly doesn't help FSX and I've read that it can actually slow it down. That being said, looks like a rocking system!
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Posted onPost created on
June 12 2013 02:14 ET by Robbie Johnson
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Andrew Kaufmann wrote:
Been looking and this is what I'm narrowing down to:
Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz
ASUS Sabertooth Z77 Motherboard
32GB - Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz DDR3 8GB (4x8GB)
Corsair H80i H2O CPU Cooler
Corsair AX1200i Modular Power Supply
LG 24X DVD-RW Combo
x2 EVGA Nvidia GTX 780 in SLI
Western Digital Black 1TB - 7200RPM 3.5" HDD
Western Digital Black 500GB - 7200RPM 3.5" HDD
Corsair NeutronGTX 240GB SSD
Any particular reason you decided not to go with Haswell? The only reason I would be hesitant would be the overclocking procedure has changed considerably and it would appear most chips won't be able to push past 4.6, but I typically shoot for 4.5 anyways.
For cooling there are much better options. You could either save some money and grab an air cooler (which would perform better) or grab a better closed-loop liquid cooler such as the H100i, H110, or H220. None of these would compare to a custom loop though, which are very fun to put together but take some time.
The RAM is certainly overkill for FSX & gaming, but IIRC you also do video rendering so it might not be that much of a stretch. I would try to find some 1866 or 2133 though, drop down to 16GB if you need to price wise.
You definitely want to stick with a single GPU setup. Multiple GPUs actually degrade performance in FSX by a considerable amount. If you want to spend a lot on a GPU for programs that use CUDA go with a Titan; for FSX alone anything above a 660 is more than enough.
Even for a SLI setup that PSU is complete overkill. If you go with my recommendation of a single GPU you can stick with something in the 600-750w range.
Was there any particular reason for the dual HDDs? If not you pay less price/GB by going with larger capacity HDDs.
For the SSD I would go with a comparable Samsung 840 or Crucial M4; they are some of the most reliable on the market, with the 840 pro being among the best for performance.
As always feel free to contact me if you need some help.
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Posted onPost created on
June 14 2013 00:23 ET by Isidoro Attie
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Thanks everyone for your support. And sorry for taking some credit in a thread that i did not start.
Running FSX for the first time (All REX, GEX, Scenery TEch, FSGENESIS...etc...Installed) on an OCd system up to 4.4 GHrz. Its been stable (Without flying) for the past 60 hours....
Would you say Ive passed a stress test? Will see after the first flight!
Cheers everyone! and again, many thanks!!!!
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Posted onPost created on
July 28 2013 09:25 ET by Andrew Kaufmann
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CPU: INTEL CORE i7-3770 3.5 GHz QUAD CORE (@4.5)
CPU COOLER: CORSAIR H100i 77.0 CFM LIQUID CPU COOLER
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 ATX LGA1155 MOBO
MEM: PATRIOT VIPER 3 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR3-2133
STORAGE: 1 X SAMSUNG 840 (250GB SSD) AND 1 SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB 7200RPM INT HARD DRIVE
VIDEO: EVGA GeFORCE GTX 780 3GB
COLD CATHODES BY LOGISYS AND ARCTIC SILVER 5 THERMAL COMPOUND
Completely blowing my stuff out of the water - love it. Using FSX, UTX, REX, FS Altitude, and paywares - consistent 60-70 FPS with everything tuned for best visuals and performance. Pictures to follow
If you want a build - Robbie is the man.
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