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DVA10441
Captain, B767-300
OLP

Joined on January 08 2012
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Contagem, Minas Gerais Brazil

55 legs, 140.8 hours
25 legs, 91.2 hours online
53 legs, 137.3 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on January 27 2014 17:19 ET by Samuel Cunha

Hi guys,I would really apreciate some help.I am planning to buy this pc via CybertronPC website,and I would lie to know if it will handle Fsx with medium specs

AMD Athlon II X2 255 3.10GHz Dual-Core AM3 OEM Processor
Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 AM3 CVDO X16 4D3 M32 GL R MATX Motherboard
4GB DDR3-1600 PC3-12800 Memory
1TB SATA3 7200RPM 64MB Cache
DVD±RW DL 24x SATA Black Optical Drive
GeForce GT610 1GD3 X16 DVI VGA HDMI
InWin 450W ATX12v PSU
10/100/1000 Gigabit Network Onboard

Thanks

Samuel Cunha

Captain, B767-300

DVA10131
Captain, MD-11
E-MAIL

Joined on August 29 2011
50 State Club
Century Club
Online Century Club

"If it's not Boeing, I'm not going"
Charleston, SC USA

136 legs, 473.3 hours
123 legs, 428.0 hours online
130 legs, 451.7 hours ACARS
11 legs, 38.5 hours event

Posted onPost created on January 27 2014 19:20 ET by Robbie Johnson

I wouldn't recommend that for FSX. For FSX build you really want to go Intel when you can for the superior single threaded performance and on the higher end builds the ability to overclock. I would recommend 8GB of RAM to give the OS and other programs enough RAM to operate without interfering with FSX. For the GPU I would recommend at least a 550ti or higher; preferably a 760.

Another thing to note, you will want to make sure get a copy of Windows 7; Win 8 doesn't work well with FS.

I would strongly recommend that you either build it yourself or have someone build it for you; you will save quite a bit of money and get better performance compared to buying something pre-built.

Robbie Johnson (DVA10131)

Posted onPost created on January 27 2014 20:13 ET by Samuel Cunha

thank you for the informations Robbie.The problem is that I have a small budget,and this pc is only 388 dollars...But i will see want I can do to uptade it according to what you said

Samuel Cunha

Captain, B767-300

DVA10851
Captain, A320

Joined on June 15 2010
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New Haven, CT

510 legs, 2,120.8 hours
2 legs, 3.2 hours online
508 legs, 2,113.7 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on February 22 2014 02:10 ET by Jose Bazil

well my question is i am thinking getting the AMD A10 7850K 4.0 GHz Black Edition Boxed processor and i am going all out on this rig but i read somewhere that amd does not play too nice with fsx any suggestions would be nice... and recommendations

Jose Bazil

Captain, A320

DVA11901
Captain, B767-300

Joined on January 05 2014
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"My name is Roger Murdock. I'm the co-pilot."
Saint Paul, MN

310 legs, 483.5 hours
236 legs, 378.2 hours online
307 legs, 477.0 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.3 hours event

Posted onPost created on February 22 2014 16:51 ET by Thomas Katsampes

Nothing wrong with amd... I run a dual core 2.2 ghz with 560ti card and get 30+ fps average, 60+ peak. I have 4g RAM. Only change I would make is get an ssd if possible.

Thomas Katsampes (DVA11901)

DVA9545
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP, 737-ATP

Joined on March 03 2011
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"YUPIIIII"
Goiás Brazil

2,495 legs, 5,044.8 hours
2,324 legs, 4,766.4 hours online
2,487 legs, 5,015.2 hours ACARS
271 legs, 683.8 hours event

Posted onPost created on February 22 2014 19:59 ET by Thiago Braga

Guys, AMD CPUs are horrible. Intels CPU are way better.

Thiago Braga (DVA9545)

DVA3520
First Officer, B747-400

Joined on September 07 2006
Double Century Club

"Feelin' good is good enough!"
Riverside, CA

280 legs, 834.6 hours
120 legs, 384.6 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on February 22 2014 22:12 ET by Bryan Lee

Thiago Braga wrote:

Guys, AMD CPUs are horrible. Intels CPU are way better.

This is just pure fanboyism, the higher end AMD chips are just fine and are cheaper than the competing Intel chips. It all depends what you are doing, for gaming and FSX an Intel i5 series chip is what you want if you are on a budget.

Samuel, you need an intel i5 with a good motherboard and cooling solution so you can overclock, 8 gigs of ram and a dedicated video card. The 270x series graphics card should be fine for you. This may be a bit over budget and if so i suggest you wait until you can get these components at the least. This system will also allow you to play other games at higher settings as well, not just FSX. Do some research, Google is your friend, do NOT just buy the first prebuilt PC you see for cheap, you WILL regret it.

Bryan Lee

First Officer, B747-400

Posted onPost created on February 22 2014 23:08 ET by Thiago Braga

Bryan Lee wrote:

Thiago Braga wrote:

Guys, AMD CPUs are horrible. Intels CPU are way better.

This is just pure fanboyism, the higher end AMD chips are just fine and are cheaper than the competing Intel chips. It all depends what you are doing, for gaming and FSX an Intel i5 series chip is what you want if you are on a budget.

Samuel, you need an intel i5 with a good motherboard and cooling solution so you can overclock, 8 gigs of ram and a dedicated video card. The 270x series graphics card should be fine for you. This may be a bit over budget and if so i suggest you wait until you can get these components at the least. This system will also allow you to play other games at higher settings as well, not just FSX. Do some research, Google is your friend, do NOT just buy the first prebuilt PC you see for cheap, you WILL regret it.

Bryan,
for myself point of view and experience with AMD, I felt much differences between and also, I couldn`t O/C when I need it. But. Yes amds are good for o.c.but intel cpus have better architecture
Intel has launched 22nm cpus but amd has still date launched 32nm only
Amd is still wrkin on 28nm

Intel cpus are less power consuming than the amds

Intel has hyperthreading technology which enables logical cores but amd dont have such
Intel cpus single core performance is significantly more than amd cpus

If look right, you can get goos deals for Intel CPUs; you`ll can find great deals for Intels as I did with my i7 3770K for USD250.00 (The best one out there). I also have Intel i7 2600K and I could overclocked to 4.5ghz with no problems in my other PC.

Just my point of view!

Thiago Braga (DVA9545)

DVA10434
First Officer, B737-800
OLP

Joined on January 01 2012
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"Jet Noise Rocks!"
Virginia Beach, VA USA

199 legs, 614.0 hours
152 legs, 483.5 hours online
192 legs, 592.3 hours ACARS
3 legs, 9.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on February 22 2014 23:20 ET by James Mclees

Samuel, medium settings, yes. You do need something like a GTX 550 GPU or close to it for that set-up so no bottlenecks either way. I do agree that the intels are better, but the OP has a budget and asked about mid settings. When that budget frees up somewhat, get an intel, even if it's not top of the line. The instructions per cycle are about 50% higher than AMD gen for gen. FSX is CPU bound mainly on one core so you want the fastest IPC you can afford. I had an AMD FX-8350 and liked it, but I was crushed by IVY Bridge. Now I'm building an i7 4820 rig. In your budget "range", you may be able to build a i5 2500 rig, same 550 or 560ti and not spend much more.

James Mclees

First Officer, B737-800

Posted onPost created on February 23 2014 00:36 ET by Robbie Johnson

@Thiago

AMD chips hold their own depending on what you want to do with them. They aren't as good for FSX as an Intel chip is, but for gaming and heavily threaded applications a 8350 or a FX6300 can be just as good as a 4670.

The power consumption differences are negligible, it comes out to something like $15/year for normal use.

Hyperthreading doesn't help FSX or the vast majority of games currently on the market. That said, AMD's 'octa-core' CPUs are actually 4 cores with a split cache; it's basicly hyperthreading.

On a side note, don't waste your money on an i7. The hyperthreading won't help you, and that's the only major difference between an i7 and a i5.

Robbie Johnson (DVA10131)

Posted onPost created on February 23 2014 05:10 ET by Jose Bazil

Thanks this is a early Father's Day gift and the misses wants to give me a present so then I will opt for the intel with 32gb of ram and a nvidia geforce 770 then

Jose Bazil

Captain, A320

DVA11957
Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on February 02 2014
DVA One-Year Anniversary
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"Fly everything, it never hurts."
Centereach, NY

290 legs, 843.0 hours
256 legs, 779.3 hours online
276 legs, 797.1 hours ACARS
117 legs, 260.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on February 23 2014 07:28 ET by Darren Tung

Samuel Cunha wrote:

Hi guys,I would really apreciate some help.I am planning to buy this pc via CybertronPC website,and I would lie to know if it will handle Fsx with medium specs

AMD Athlon II X2 255 3.10GHz Dual-Core AM3 OEM Processor
Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 AM3 CVDO X16 4D3 M32 GL R MATX Motherboard

4GB DDR3-1600 PC3-12800 Memory
1TB SATA3 7200RPM 64MB Cache
DVD±RW DL 24x SATA Black Optical Drive
GeForce GT610 1GD3 X16 DVI VGA HDMI
InWin 450W ATX12v PSU
10/100/1000 Gigabit Network Onboard

Thanks

I own an AMD A6-4400M Laptop clocking at about 2.0 to 2.7 ghz which is windows 8, and I always run fsx under pretty high settings, getting about 20fps on average. You should have no problem with that computer.

Darren Tung

Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on February 24 2014 00:44 ET by Robbie Johnson

Jose Bazil wrote:

Thanks this is a early Father's Day gift and the misses wants to give me a present so then I will opt for the intel with 32gb of ram and a nvidia geforce 770 then

What all are you trying to do with that PC? I highly doubt you will need anything close to 32GB of RAM and the 770 is overkill if you're just flying in FSX.

Robbie Johnson (DVA10131)

Posted onPost created on February 25 2014 02:18 ET by Jose Bazil

Well I do record music and fsx that is it I have a GeForce 670 on it now I was just seeing where not to break her wallet I was going to get the amd 4.9 ghz with a new motherboard I am just confused

Jose Bazil

Captain, A320

Posted onPost created on February 25 2014 18:33 ET by Thiago Braga

Robbie Johnson wrote:

@Thiago

AMD chips hold their own depending on what you want to do with them. They aren't as good for FSX as an Intel chip is, but for gaming and heavily threaded applications a 8350 or a FX6300 can be just as good as a 4670.

The power consumption differences are negligible, it comes out to something like $15/year for normal use.

Hyperthreading doesn't help FSX or the vast majority of games currently on the market. That said, AMD's 'octa-core' CPUs are actually 4 cores with a split cache; it's basicly hyperthreading.

On a side note, don't waste your money on an i7. The hyperthreading won't help you, and that's the only major difference between an i7 and a i5.

Robbie,
I agree with you. I also have my Hyperthreading disable on my BIOS of my Intel i7 2600K. I just don`t think that AMDs CPU would hold for such power requirement by FSX. A friend of mine had to replace his FX6300 2 times already and He even touch in anything on the Processor.
And also, FSX don`t use all of the cores as i3, i5 or even a i7 holds. I also think that a good dual Processor would do just fine; As I have seen some people with great performance.

Robbie Johnson wrote:

@Robbie Johnson
Jose Bazil wrote:

Thanks this is a early Father's Day gift and the misses wants to give me a present so then I will opt for the intel with 32gb of ram and a nvidia geforce 770 then

What all are you trying to do with that PC? I highly doubt you will need anything close to 32GB of RAM and the 770 is overkill if you're just flying in FSX.

32GB definitely is a lot of RAM. I think 8GB would do. 16GB the maximum.

Samuel,
If you don`t want to spend much money (as you didn`t mention on your question), than I think with that specs you`re good on it. I just wouldn`t go for AMD CPUs.

Again, Just my thoughts!

Thiago Braga (DVA9545)

DVA11380
Senior Captain, A330-300
OLP

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2,082 legs, 4,889.8 hours
1,722 legs, 3,657.3 hours online
2,060 legs, 4,813.2 hours ACARS
172 legs, 354.7 hours event
422 legs dispatched, 311.4 hours

Posted onPost created on February 25 2014 18:49 ET by Bob Donovan

By the way - FSX is 32 bit program. You can have a billion gigs of memory and it will still only use 4gb assuming you add HIGHMEMFIX=1 to your cdg in the [GRAPHICS] section.

The program needs mega CPU power. It doesn't call the GPU as much as it does the CPU. For a FSX rig - get the most CPU possible for your money, get some stable RAM, and a mid-range video card. A SSD is a nice bonus.
I guarantee anything overclocked will need mega tweaking and workarounds for stability.

Bob Donovan (DVA11380)

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