Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - Charter Flights (Process and Limitations?)

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | Charter Flights (Process and Limitations?)

DVA10032
Captain, B777-200

Joined on July 31 2011
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Warwick, RI

84 legs, 188.8 hours
82 legs, 184.2 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on August 04 2014 08:48 ET by Greg Germanowski

Hello,

I've done some Water Cooler searches, as well as scoured the Pilots' Manual, but I can't seem to find any good references to how charter operations work here at DVA. As a new 767 first officer, I'm keen to fly some charter flights which Delta actually operates with their 767's. I see from some forum posts that a charter request is made via the help desk, but I'm curious - Are appropriately flown charters acceptable towards advancement to captain?

The NFL is starting to spin up operations for the 2014-2015 season, and Delta 767's happens to be the charter of choice for the New England Patriots. Not only that but they fly to and from my next door airport, PVD, where the largest normal visitor are the FedEx and UPS 757s. While Foxboro is equidistant between PVD and BOS, Providence is one heck of a lot easier to get the 4 or 5 coach busses with their escorts in and out of.

For the fun of it, I've attached a picture of yesterday's Delta Flight 8868 departure, a 767-300 leaving PVD bound for Richmond, VA carrying the team for joint preseason practices with the Washington Redskins this week.

Thanks for any insights you can provide!
-Greg

DVA8512
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Posted onPost created on August 04 2014 09:18 ET by Elise Van De Putte

There is a guide on charter flights in one of the FLY! magazines. Basically, you request through the help desk but you have to have a good reason. If I remember correctly, sports charters were not one of the reasons but someone can correct me on that. When you request, list route, aircraft type, routing, and reason.

Elise Van De Putte (DVA8512)

DVA10032
Captain, B777-200

Joined on July 31 2011
DVA Five-Year Anniversary

Warwick, RI

84 legs, 188.8 hours
82 legs, 184.2 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on August 04 2014 10:14 ET by Greg Germanowski

Thanks Elise,

After opening a bunch of the Fly! publications, I found some info on it in the December 2010 edition. It doesn't really give any restrictions to the reasons. In fact, it seems to encourage flights between oddball airport pairs based on the example provided, and no reason seemed needed for the request.

I guess the main part of my question was how to request one, and if DVA would count charter ops towards promotion. I'd be pleased if DVA allowed properly flown charter flights to be counted towards captains advancement on a given airframe. At the same time it is easy to understand how opting to fly an occasional flight route on a personal whim or even a real-world Delta charter might fall outside the bounds of regular operations but one never knows.

Just curious,
-Greg

Posted onPost created on August 04 2014 10:56 ET by Elise Van De Putte

As long as they meet the set standards for promotion, the flights will count.

Elise Van De Putte (DVA8512)

DVA10032
Captain, B777-200

Joined on July 31 2011
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Warwick, RI

84 legs, 188.8 hours
82 legs, 184.2 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on August 04 2014 11:14 ET by Greg Germanowski

Thanks for the additional info, Elise! I appreciate it.

DVA1379
Senior Captain, B747-400
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Posted onPost created on August 05 2014 10:19 ET by Kyle Weber

It would be nice, in the future, to have this policy standardized. Eliminate the confusion, interpretations, and guess-work.

Kyle Weber (DVA1379)

DVA4165
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Posted onPost created on August 06 2014 00:50 ET by Don Baker

This is the guidelines for Charter Flts... Request via the Help Desk.. No, we do not do Sports charters..

Pre-approved charter flights are unique exceptions to our flight policies.
The concept of charter flight was created to meet rare exceptional situations. Our business is built around the model of Delta Air Line's passenger business. We require the following information in order to consider a Pre-Approved charter flight.
1. ICAO code for Departure Airport and Arrival Airport. (note: airports should be commercial fields not private or military)
2. Equipment Type to be used.
3. Purpose or reason for requesting a pre-approved charter flight.
If approved, we require that the flights be flown using ACARS (online or offline). The flights count in your overall totals but do not qualify for promotion.
The flights will be pre-approved and appear in your logbook. They are valid for 14 days.

Don Baker (DVA4165)

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Posted onPost created on August 24 2014 16:46 ET by Kendall Mann

Would "Only Need One More Airport To Complete The Globtrotter" be approved? :-)

Scott

Don Baker wrote:

This is the guidelines for Charter Flts... Request via the Help Desk.. No, we do not do Sports charters..

Pre-approved charter flights are unique exceptions to our flight policies.
The concept of charter flight was created to meet rare exceptional situations. Our business is built around the model of Delta Air Line's passenger business. We require the following information in order to consider a Pre-Approved charter flight.
1. ICAO code for Departure Airport and Arrival Airport. (note: airports should be commercial fields not private or military)
2. Equipment Type to be used.
3. Purpose or reason for requesting a pre-approved charter flight.
If approved, we require that the flights be flown using ACARS (online or offline). The flights count in your overall totals but do not qualify for promotion.
The flights will be pre-approved and appear in your logbook. They are valid for 14 days.

Kendall Mann

Senior Captain, B747-400

DVA11591
Senior Captain, B757-200
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Posted onPost created on August 24 2014 22:07 ET by Soonho Lee

Sadly, charter flights will not be approved for purpose of gaining the achievements. There are actually more countries that you can visit than what the achievement requires.

Soonho Lee (DVA11591)

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Posted onPost created on August 26 2014 01:03 ET by Scott Simmons

The December 2010 issue of Delta Fly has the article on charter flights

Scott Simmons (DVA8088)

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