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Posted onPost created on December 25 2014 09:42 ET by Domenick Rapone

First of all Happy Holidays to everyone. This is my problem, I got a Nvidia GT610 for Christmas and when I attepmed to install it I ran into a problem. I have no PCI slots to put the card into. Is there any way that I could buy PCI slots or is there a different way to install the card. Thanks and happy holidays.

Domenick Rapone (DVA11699)

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Posted onPost created on December 25 2014 10:40 ET by Sean Zarella

your going to need to get another Mother board that has PCI express 2.0 slots, problem is swapping your motherboard you wont be able to load windows, you will have to reinstall windows like i did, but i purchased an additional SSD drive to put windows and FS9 on.

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Posted onPost created on December 25 2014 11:32 ET by Russell Homan

first question though is that a DELL? the reason I ask is that Dell use proprietary plugs to go from the power supply(PSU) to the motherboard (in other words a dell power supply can only be used with a dell motherboard).Second question is what wattage is the power supply. Once you start adding peripherals things can get dicey for stock PSU's . Check out this website to see if your PSU will handle your graphics card ( http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp ) At this point looking at your rig I would say that since you are going to have to get a new motherboard. I would go with a new processor, ram and PSU. I know that money doesn't grow on trees and buying/ building a new PC can be expensive but it might be an unavoidable option if you want to use the graphics card. While the GT610 is a good card I don't think building a pc around it is a wise investment. However, if you are looking to upgrade, you at least have a graphics card. If you are ready to make the upgrade jump I would not go to a box store or online. Look local, I would start looking around and ASKING QUESTIONS at local PC shops. Not box stores but local ones, local shops want the business and know, if you are not satisfied you will not come back. Where as box stores try to move product and will sell you anything. Local shops usually hire certified entry level College graduates who are more than happy to talk computers with someone, and 9 times out of 10 are not pushing for a sale. They are educated in computers and don't have just all around electronics knowledge. Tell them what you want the PC to do. What is its main use, peripherals etc. Don't be shy to tell them. Don't say a gaming rig either, be specific. If you want to play FSX maxed out (more CPU than graphics card) then tell them, if you want to play COD at max (graphics card higher priority) and fsx / fs9 are lower priority then tell them that. f you are set upon trying to upgrade just your motherboard and CPU then bring in your tower they can look and see if the pieces parts are compatible. Just so you know I am not blowing smoke up your bum I am compTIA A+, network+, Security + certified and have seen this many times, where someone gets a peripheral and all of a sudden they wonder why they need a whole new computer to make it work. Don't be bummed out, if Flight sim is working okay for you then this might be something you save up for.

Russell Homan

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Posted onPost created on December 25 2014 13:10 ET by Domenick Rapone

Ok thanks Sean and Russell. Sean is there any motherboards that are fairly cheap that you would recommend. By that I mean under 100 dollars. I got an SSD. For Christmas as well so that's taken care of. Russ no it's not Dell its HP. According to the website I ordered it from (Costco) it was 90 Watts. I got this computer 4 months ago, the specs are i3 core at 2.8GHz 4GB RAM Intel Intergrated Graphics 500GB hard drive and 500GB External Drive. This is all the specs it gives me but I was looking at this motherboard http://m.tigerdirect.com/products/7794152 What are your thoughts on this. Thanks

Domenick Rapone (DVA11699)

Posted onPost created on December 25 2014 13:15 ET by Domenick Rapone

Russell I also went to that website and put in my current and would be (with the GT610) setup. Without the card it was 160W which confused me because I should only have 90W but it runs fine. With the GT610 it was 183W. I don't know if I missed something but I'm pretty sure I got it all.

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Posted onPost created on December 25 2014 17:13 ET by Thiago Braga

Sean Zarella wrote:

your going to need to get another Mother board that has PCI express 2.0 slots, problem is swapping your motherboard you wont be able to load windows, you will have to reinstall windows like i did, but i purchased an additional SSD drive to put windows and FS9 on.

+1
Dell PCs.... banghead

Posted onPost created on December 26 2014 09:00 ET by Sean Zarella

ok for i3 core chipset. visit NEWEGG.com look up by your chipset and make sure you have, your going to need to get a 600w + p/s with 2 pcie power connectors for the vid card, and your MB good brands are ASUS, MSI GIGABYTE.

also is that a full atx case and not a micro? will your card fit?

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Posted onPost created on December 26 2014 09:53 ET by Norm Hare

Russell Homan wrote:

first question though is that a DELL? the reason I ask is that Dell use proprietary plugs to go from the power supply(PSU) to the motherboard (in other words a dell power supply can only be used with a dell motherboard)..

This is at least the second time I've read this on this forum. I've been dealing with Dell desktops professionally since 2004 and still own one today. I have replaced Dell power supplies with replacements over the years from time to time. I've never seen a proprietary plug on any of them
that I recall. The one problem I did run into was fitment into the case. If using a third party PS, you have to look at the cutouts in the back to make sure the PS orients properly. They may use slightly different connectors on some of the mini-chassis, but again, I have not seen this.

Norm Hare (DVA3419)

Posted onPost created on December 26 2014 11:34 ET by Domenick Rapone

Sean I don't know the case brand but I have taken measurements and the card will fit. Do you have any recommendations on boards I should get? Thanks

Domenick Rapone (DVA11699)

Posted onPost created on December 26 2014 12:16 ET by Russell Homan

Domenick Rapone wrote:

Russell I also went to that website and put in my current and would be (with the GT610) setup. Without the card it was 160W which confused me because I should only have 90W but it runs fine. With the GT610 it was 183W. I don't know if I missed something but I'm pretty sure I got it all.

I think they try to be conservitive in their estimates to prevent being sued. It makes sense that with the card it is 23 more watts because that is what Nvidia says it pulls

Norm Hare wrote:

Russell Homan wrote:

first question though is that a DELL? the reason I ask is that Dell use proprietary plugs to go from the power supply(PSU) to the motherboard (in other words a dell power supply can only be used with a dell motherboard)..

This is at least the second time I've read this on this forum. I've been dealing with Dell desktops professionally since 2004 and still own one today. I have replaced Dell power supplies with replacements over the years from time to time. I've never seen a proprietary plug on any of them
that I recall. The one problem I did run into was fitment into the case. If using a third party PS, you have to look at the cutouts in the back to make sure the PS orients properly. They may use slightly different connectors on some of the mini-chassis, but again, I have not seen this.

yep they started doing this in 2003 starting with the Dell Inspiron they have been clipping out redundant ground wires off PSU's, its missing the 5v, and 5v standby. Its now 12v standby, as welll as placing power regulators on your motherboard so you cant plug in more than two laptop sized harddrives. They claim that it is more reliable. They do however use non proprietary parts on their XPS machines. and some older dimensions but any of the mini-towers still do.

if your pinout differs from the two in this diagram it is proprietary

http://powersupply88.com/atx-power-supply-pinout.html

Russell Homan

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Posted onPost created on December 26 2014 16:12 ET by John Noe

You may be best advised to either build an whole new computer using your video card or sending the card back. Changing a motherboard as you mention will simple not give you a good outcome. A computer such as yours was designed to be used pretty much as built with no add-on capabilty.

John Noe

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