Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | New Web Site UI

DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett 1500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Four Million Mile Club

"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA

2,313 legs, 9,317.7 hours
240 legs, 553.9 hours online
1,971 legs, 8,110.8 hours ACARS
75 legs, 196.3 hours event
2,349 legs, 9,452.6 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4 hours

Posted onPost created on November 16 2015 00:09 ET by Luke Kolin

When you log in, you may notice a new web site UI. I've spent the past week making our site significantly more mobile-friendly using a responsive layout that works better on phones, tablets as well as desktop browsers. Part of that involves a new menu bar - which has been available for several years but is now the default. It should allow significantly more screen real estate on tablets. For phones, you should see the side menu go away in place of a menu overlay that appears when you click on the page title at the top.

A significant portion of our traffic comes from mobile devices, and in order to remain prominent in Google search rankings we need to have a mobile-friendly site. This latest build should give us both while preserving much of the existing UI.

If you have errors, please refresh the page to ensure you have the latest Javascript and CSS files. If you still have problems, please fill out a Help Desk Issue.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

DVA2887
Senior Captain, A320
OLP, 737-ATP, VFRADV
E-MAIL

Joined on January 30 2006
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Tri-Jet Triumph
US Coastal Club
Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
US Mountaineer Club
Toulouse 250 Club
Online Eight Century

Charlotte, NC

1,286 legs, 1,796.2 hours
840 legs, 1,047.8 hours online
1,268 legs, 1,774.2 hours ACARS
31 legs, 49.6 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.5 hours

Posted onPost created on November 16 2015 08:38 ET by Andrew Vane

Thanks Luke! Logged in using chrome incognito to clean everything out. I'll have to try the site on my phone. Thanks for the announcement. I'll forward any related help desk issues to you. smile

DVA7171
Senior Captain, B757-200

Joined on March 14 2009
50 State Club
Event Half Century Club
Everett 250 Club
Online Quintuple Century Club
Seven Century Club
Black Pearl Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"Walk away from all your landings..."
Sebring, FL

725 legs, 1,676.2 hours
573 legs, 1,401.2 hours online
716 legs, 1,660.6 hours ACARS
56 legs, 127.6 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 16 2015 17:04 ET by Sergio Lopez

May I recommend adding the international sign for menu next to the logo that way people know there's an actual menu there. Here's what that looks:

Also, the menu seems to be cutting out between each page's link, might want to check the padding or margin on those as it might be leaving a transparent gap. Makes things a lot harder to read on mobile.

Apart from that I think everything else is great. Thanks for the update Luke.

Sergio Lopez (DVA7171)

DVA10236
Captain, B747-400

Joined on October 02 2011
Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary

LaGrange, GA

107 legs, 433.3 hours
51 legs, 144.5 hours online
105 legs, 429.8 hours ACARS
3 legs, 3.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 16 2015 17:25 ET by Jacob Buchanan

I've been wondering why for the past few years it always alternated on my computer, but I like it over all. Looks more of the age (now we just need a new 767 up top to refresh it all).

Jacob Buchanan (DVA10236)

DVA5643
Senior Captain, DC-6

Joined on February 08 2008
Piston Prop Professional
50 State Club
US Coastal Club
Globetrotter
US Mountaineer Club
Flying Colonel
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Long Beach 500 Club

"I'd rather be lucky than good"
Hampton, GA USA

1,914 legs, 2,888.2 hours
5 legs, 3.8 hours online
1,907 legs, 2,878.2 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on November 16 2015 19:01 ET by Jim Daigneau

Awesome, Luke! Thank you!

Jim Daigneau (DVA5643)

DVA12542
Captain, B757-200
OLP

Joined on February 17 2015
50 State Club
Everett Century Club
Iditarod Club
Online Century Club
Double Century Club
US Capital Club

Ashland, KY

227 legs, 505.5 hours
192 legs, 440.6 hours online
227 legs, 505.5 hours ACARS
7 legs, 15.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 17 2015 12:52 ET by Keith Greer

Hey Luke, would it be possible to have the top menu not scroll with the screen.

If you're looking a long post in the water cooler it could be a little tedious to scroll all the way back up to get out of that post. I know you can simply just hit the back button on your keyboard but thought might be nice for tablet and phone users.

Keith Greer (DVA12542)

DVA273
Assistant Chief Pilot, B777-200

Joined on September 07 2001
B757 100 Club
50 State Club
Tri-Jet Triumph
Three Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Ponce De Leon Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Everett Millennium Club

"Flying Freedom, Photography Passion"
Aurora, CO

2,144 legs, 8,670.4 hours
39 legs, 247.6 hours online
1,249 legs, 5,108.4 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.5 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 18 2015 05:58 ET by Michael Evans

Awesome!

Michael Evans

Assistant Chief Pilot, B777-200

DVA10705
First Officer, B747-400
OLP

Joined on April 27 2012
Two Million Mile Club
Everett 500 Club
Millennium Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary

Kamloops, BC Canada

1,060 legs, 5,399.0 hours
87 legs, 356.0 hours online
1,059 legs, 5,397.6 hours ACARS
15 legs, 48.6 hours event
3,528 legs, 15,773.5 hours total
15 legs dispatched, 24.4 hours

Posted onPost created on November 18 2015 17:59 ET by Bill Gardiner

Thanks Luke!

Bill Gardiner

First Officer, B747-400

DVA7130
Senior Captain, B727-200
OLP

Joined on March 23 2009
50 State Club
Everett 250 Club
Events Century Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
Eight Century Club
Online Eight Century

"Hudson, we have a problem"
Tyrone, GA USA

846 legs, 1,482.4 hours
814 legs, 1,429.8 hours online
818 legs, 1,443.2 hours ACARS
178 legs, 322.6 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 20 2015 11:24 ET by Ryan Morse

So, how do I enable the option to fix it back to the way it was?

This is a desktop simulation site, we have computers. I do not think I have ever been on this site on mobile, and this is now completely broken for me on my computer.

I just want the sidebar back as a option. I personally can't stand the top bar. It is inefficient and most of the dropdown boxes do not work causing endless frustration.

How do I set it back to the proper desktop site? (as an aside I HATE websites becoming more "mobile friendly" IE broken to real browsers. I've seen way too many sites become unusable because of "upgrades".

Thank you.

Ryan Morse (DVA7130)

Posted onPost created on November 20 2015 12:11 ET by Sergio Lopez

What desktop browser are you using Ryan?

Sergio Lopez (DVA7171)

Posted onPost created on November 21 2015 00:22 ET by Luke Kolin

Ryan Morse wrote:

So, how do I enable the option to fix it back to the way it was?

You can do so in your profile - right beside the color scheme.

It is inefficient and most of the dropdown boxes do not work causing endless frustration.

If you're having problems I'd be curious to know what browser you are using. It should work on a modern browser - Safari, Firefox, Chrome or a modern I.E.

How do I set it back to the proper desktop site?

The interesting thing to me is that the side bar site is actually the mobile version of the site. Tablets and desktops get the top bar. However, if you are encountering problems I am interested in fixing them.

Cheers

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on November 21 2015 22:39 ET by Ryan Morse

Luke Kolin wrote:

If you're having problems I'd be curious to know what browser you are using. It should work on a modern browser - Safari, Firefox, Chrome or a modern I.E.

Cheers

Thank you very much for the revert option! kiss

IE10 is my browser.

The drop boxes just wouldn't stay put. I could scroll down one to pilot center, but below that no matter how carefully the drop-down would disappear making it difficult to reach most of the site. I had to Google specific pages to reach them.

Ryan Morse (DVA7130)

Posted onPost created on November 21 2015 22:53 ET by Sergio Lopez

Ryan Morse wrote:

Luke Kolin wrote:

If you're having problems I'd be curious to know what browser you are using. It should work on a modern browser - Safari, Firefox, Chrome or a modern I.E.

Cheers

Thank you very much for the revert option!

IE10 is my browser.

The drop boxes just wouldn't stay put. I could scroll down one to pilot center, but below that no matter how carefully the drop-down would disappear making it difficult to reach most of the site. I had to Google specific pages to reach them.

From experience in coding websites, IE is a webdesigner's worst nightmare. It always requires twice to work to make 1 browser (IE) compatible. I would recomend moving away from it in the future. You know it's bad when even Microsoft stops improving it.

Sergio Lopez (DVA7171)

Posted onPost created on November 22 2015 11:10 ET by Luke Kolin

Ryan Morse wrote:

Thank you very much for the revert option!

Well, I'm glad you're happy. biggrin

IE10 is my browser.

I'll do some additional testing to ensure it's functional in IE10. While Chrome is >50% of our user traffic, I try and support browsers that have over a 10% traffic share. That means Chrome, Firefox, IE and Safari. As a practical matter, IE10 probably shouldn't be covered since IE in general is 13% of our traffic and IE10 is just under 5% of that 13% - the majority of our IE traffic is IE11.

However, if it's a simple conditional CSS expression to change the spacing between the menu options (which I think is the problem - IE<11 doesn't trigger hover when hovering over the margins/padding) it shouldn't be hard for me to roll out. If it's not that easy, I'll just change the server-side rendering rules to disable the side menu for IE10.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on November 29 2015 21:37 ET by Jacob Buchanan

Hi Luke,

I like to finally have the solid choice down, however I think I may have an issue with the site on my phone. It's a el cheapo android LG smartphone, but fairly new and complex. Anyways, on Chrome after signing in, there's no top menu bar like there is on a desktop display.

Someone did mention here somewhere I might have to hit the menu button, but I don't recall seeing such available anywhere...

Jacob Buchanan (DVA10236)

Posted onPost created on November 29 2015 22:30 ET by Sergio Lopez

Jacob Buchanan wrote:

Hi Luke,

I like to finally have the solid choice down, however I think I may have an issue with the site on my phone. It's a el cheapo android LG smartphone, but fairly new and complex. Anyways, on Chrome after signing in, there's no top menu bar like there is on a desktop display.

Someone did mention here somewhere I might have to hit the menu button, but I don't recall seeing such available anywhere...

Click on the logo and the menu shall appear.

Sergio Lopez (DVA7171)

Posted onPost created on November 29 2015 22:40 ET by Jacob Buchanan

Yup, that's it.

I think I'd like it to not be so transparent however, might be hard for some to read.

Jacob Buchanan (DVA10236)

DVA11943
Captain, B767-300
OLP

Joined on January 10 2014
50 State Club
Piston Prop Professional
US Coastal Club
Online Double Century Club
Event Half Century Club
Stage 1 Turboprop Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary

Cocoa Beach, FL

326 legs, 560.0 hours
264 legs, 472.6 hours online
311 legs, 536.4 hours ACARS
56 legs, 102.5 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 30 2015 09:42 ET by Albert Thomas

Thanks Luke. The following is furnished for your information. Small problems. Just upgraded my cell phone to Sprint's Galaxy S6. Using the Sprint default browser it warns me that the site is unsafe because it doesn't have a security certificate. After I connect anyway, the site's home page loads, but there are no additional pages. The links inside the page work, but there is no way to get to the sign in function or any other page. When I log in with Google, I don't get the security warning, but same problem with signing in and getting to other pages.

This is not a 911 - normally have other computers available. Don't know if this problem is unique to the Sprint Galaxy 6 or if others have the same problem. but thought you would want to know.

Thanks again,

Al

Albert Thomas (DVA11943)

Posted onPost created on November 30 2015 10:43 ET by Jacob Buchanan

Albert, did you click on the logo?

Jacob Buchanan (DVA10236)

Posted onPost created on November 30 2015 13:09 ET by Luke Kolin

Albert Thomas wrote:

Using the Sprint default browser it warns me that the site is unsafe because it doesn't have a security certificate.

Are you hitting the site via HTTPS?

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

DVA11021
Captain, B757-200
OLP

Joined on September 13 2012
B757 100 Club
Everett 250 Club
Triple Century Club
Online Triple Century Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary

Milford, NH

375 legs, 620.5 hours
365 legs, 604.5 hours online
374 legs, 618.9 hours ACARS
21 legs, 51.4 hours event

Posted onPost created on November 30 2015 13:13 ET by Sean Zarella

that happens to me too but i just hit accept and thats just typing in deltava.org into the search

Sean Zarella (DVA11021)

Posted onPost created on November 30 2015 13:13 ET by Jacob Buchanan

Same thing happens on the Blue Angels website...

Jacob Buchanan (DVA10236)

Posted onPost created on November 30 2015 16:33 ET by Sergio Lopez

Sean Zarella wrote:

that happens to me too but i just hit accept and thats just typing in deltava.org into the search

Might not be defaulting to the https one. Check the full url up top, what does it read?

Sergio Lopez (DVA7171)

Posted onPost created on November 30 2015 16:34 ET by Sean Zarella

http://www.deltava.org let me see when it happens again and ill check the link. keep in mind only happens on my galaxy s4

edit ok if i manually go to HTTPS:// then it gives me the cert page, so This is why ill keep in mind to go to Http:// instead thanks

Sean Zarella (DVA11021)

Posted onPost created on December 01 2015 14:10 ET by Albert Thomas

Luke: The page on my cell phone does not show an Emblem However, following your advice, I clicked on the Airline Name and got the menu. All is well.
Thanks

Albert Thomas (DVA11943)

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