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DVA12335
Captain, B777-200
OLP

Joined on July 15 2012
Century Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary

"I don't say "Go", I say "TOGA""
New York, NY

104 legs, 188.0 hours
69 legs, 114.2 hours online
104 legs, 188.0 hours ACARS
84 legs dispatched, 86.0 hours

Posted onPost created on March 24 2016 10:38 ET by Anton O'Malley

Hello fellow pilots! I can't decide in what to do and maybe you could help :). I currently have a laptop hooked up to a monitor - that's my flight sim equipment (exc. yoke and so on). The laptop isn't bad, but it's starting to slow down. The specs of it are the following: i7-3630QM @ 2.40 GHz (quad), 8GB RAM, Nvidia GT750M 2GB (Lenovo Y500) and I have that hooked up to a Dell S2440L monitor. The FPS I get now in a 737 are MAX 19, even in default. I normally land with 10 FPS (even default). My sim is P3D v2.4. Now, I've been thinking, maybe I should upgrade my processor. I'll buy the processor and give it to someone to put in for me since I'm not good at all "inside" the computer. But I don't know what processor... Then I thought, maybe I should get a desktop, but my budget is only $1000. When I look at what others have - it's like $2000-3000. If I were to switch - what PC could you recommend? I don't need 90+ FPS, all I need is at least 20 in New York or London. So ideally - I want my FPS to be locked at 30 in a PMDG plane. Settings could be set to medium without shadows - no big deal for me. No livestreams, no recordings. So, it all comes down to - should I upgrade my processor (or something else) and to what? or should I get a desktop and if so - which one? Hope someone could help me decide smile

Anton O'Malley

Captain, B777-200

DVA11021
Captain, B757-200
OLP

Joined on September 13 2012
B757 100 Club
Everett 250 Club
Triple Century Club
Online Triple Century Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary

Milford, NH

375 legs, 620.5 hours
365 legs, 604.5 hours online
374 legs, 618.9 hours ACARS
21 legs, 51.4 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 24 2016 11:07 ET by Sean Zarella

Ok so here is my experience, I could never think to use a laptop for gaming unless its 1300+ gaming laptop but never forflight sim, just the bottleneck of cpu and gpu mobil versions.

I went from an amd cpu all my life to finaly a I7 4790K overclocked to 4.7 ghz, and havent looked back. This handles everything in the order of magnitude of 10 better than my amd fx8120 4.2 ghz.

You already have a separate display monitor so your all set with that, I have put up my basic parts picker for what I have and use, its a little over your 1000 budget setting 1260$ but you can prob get better prices on amazon ect

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DbwbNG

Sean Zarella (DVA11021)

DVA3159
Senior Captain, B737-800

Joined on February 08 2006
Flying Colonel
Stage 1 Jet 1500 Club
Million Mile Club
Events Century Club
Online Fifteen Century
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Land O' Lakes, FL

1,912 legs, 3,967.6 hours
1,647 legs, 3,470.4 hours online
1,662 legs, 3,462.7 hours ACARS
143 legs, 342.3 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 25 2016 20:25 ET by Patrick Hramika

I hope this helps. I have HP all in one and downloaded micro sim X and was ok for a short while, and after sending my new computer back to HP twice they sent me a (STICK) they use at the factory to boot new computers and finally told me it was Microsoft causing the freezing. Well I called Microsoft and they advised yes, some items have problems so get another screen and use it also. So I had one and use it for acars and atc only on the separate screen and have not had anything freeze so I suggest you make sure U don't need two screens for what U are going to do. I fly a lot and going for 1,000,000 miles I think in about 6 or so months with around 820,000 now so good luck and hope this helps......Patrick cool

Posted onPost created on March 25 2016 20:42 ET by Sean Zarella

Patrick Hramika wrote:

I hope this helps. I have HP all in one and downloaded micro sim X and was ok for a short while, and after sending my new computer back to HP twice they sent me a (STICK) they use at the factory to boot new computers and finally told me it was Microsoft causing the freezing. Well I called Microsoft and they advised yes, some items have problems so get another screen and use it also. So I had one and use it for acars and atc only on the separate screen and have not had anything freeze so I suggest you make sure U don't need two screens for what U are going to do. I fly a lot and going for 1,000,000 miles I think in about 6 or so months with around 820,000 now so good luck and hope this helps......Patrick

believe it or not its the KB updates that brakes games and causes more problems.

Sean Zarella (DVA11021)

Posted onPost created on March 26 2016 02:46 ET by Anton O'Malley

Patrick Hramika wrote:

I hope this helps. I have HP all in one and downloaded micro sim X and was ok for a short while, and after sending my new computer back to HP twice they sent me a (STICK) they use at the factory to boot new computers and finally told me it was Microsoft causing the freezing. Well I called Microsoft and they advised yes, some items have problems so get another screen and use it also. So I had one and use it for acars and atc only on the separate screen and have not had anything freeze so I suggest you make sure U don't need two screens for what U are going to do. I fly a lot and going for 1,000,000 miles I think in about 6 or so months with around 820,000 now so good luck and hope this helps......Patrick

Correct me If I'm wrong, but I should turn off my laptop display and only use my main monitor, correct? Thanks!

Anton O'Malley

Captain, B777-200

DVA8088
Chief Pilot, B737-800
OLP, 737-ATP

Joined on December 11 2009
50 State Club
Globetrotter
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Everett Quad-Millennium Club
Events Triple Century Club
Online Sixty Century Club
Six Million Mile Club
Seven Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"Real Time & Online. The only way to fly!!"
Corona, CA

7,254 legs, 15,027.6 hours
6,841 legs, 13,590.0 hours online
7,193 legs, 14,859.1 hours ACARS
372 legs, 926.8 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 28 2016 19:55 ET by Scott Simmons

Sean,
I'm bringing up a new system with the same CPU and a similar ASUS m/b, GTX 980 Ti
How are you doing your O/C, manually or with the ASUS utility?
Maybe we should comm. via email

Scott Simmons (DVA8088)

Posted onPost created on March 28 2016 20:11 ET by Sean Zarella

i use Bios to do it manually

pretty easy for me will vary from chip to chip.

UEIF screen , go to AI tweeker page,

Synch all cores I set mine to 4.7 by putting in 47

Then for Cpu voltage, MANUAL mode and 1.264 for me, try that and use AIDA64 or prime to see if shes stable, you may need to go to 1.3 volts, depends on the chip

turn off all power saving utilities in bios and turbo options,

also make sure you have a decent cooler.

Thats it, My Cpu stays 33c idle 70c max using prime 95 and 55c when gaming,

Sean Zarella (DVA11021)

DVA11380
Senior Captain, A330-300
OLP

Joined on March 20 2013
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Million Mile Club
Iron Dispatcher
US Coastal Club
Commuter Conquest
US Mountaineer Club
Everett Millennium Club
Events Century Club
Online Fifteen Century
Bi-Millennium Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary

"If cats could text you, they wouldn't."
Boston, MA

2,082 legs, 4,889.8 hours
1,722 legs, 3,657.3 hours online
2,060 legs, 4,813.2 hours ACARS
172 legs, 354.7 hours event
422 legs dispatched, 311.4 hours

Posted onPost created on March 29 2016 11:05 ET by Bob Donovan

Anton:

First - Thanks for using a Lenovo product. My family appreciates that.
Second - Like Sean said, a desktop is the way to go where you can upgrade piece by piece of the years. Put an emphasis on the best processor and motherboard you can afford first. After that, video card and memory, cooling, SSD, then case.
Third - Keep your laptop. You might find running ACARS, EFB, Weather and other apps on a separate PC will be convenient and also keep your FS computer clean and fast.

There are some good gaming laptops out there, but laptops are very limited on upgrading, and cooling is always an issue.

My setup is i7 6700k w/ ASUS RoG Hero VIII Motherboard, 16gb DDR3200 Ram, Thermaltake Liquid Cooler, Samsung 850 Evo SSD, NVidia Geforce 970GTX.
My days of tweaking are over. I get crazy high frame rates with all settings max'd in P3D and FSX.

If you get the high-end CPU and MLB out of the way first, the rest you can add in as you wish.

Bob Donovan (DVA11380)

DVA364
Captain, A330-300

Joined on October 23 2001
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett Century Club
Double Century Club

"COWBOY UP!"
Carrollton, GA

261 legs, 480.8 hours
5 legs, 6.5 hours online
221 legs, 363.1 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on March 29 2016 14:56 ET by Ralph Templeman

i understand some of what you type in here, but you talk about tweaking this and that. I am not computer literate. can someone describe this where i , a dummy with a gaming computer. Please

Ralph Templeman

Captain, A330-300

Posted onPost created on March 29 2016 16:46 ET by Bob Donovan

Ralph Templeman wrote:

i understand some of what you type in here, but you talk about tweaking this and that. I am not computer literate. can someone describe this where i , a dummy with a gaming computer. Please

Hi Ralph. Two types of "tweaking".

1 - Flight Sim Tweaking - usually means there's settings in the software you can adjust to gain better performance
2 - Hardware Tweaking - settings in your PC to gain performance

This guy does a pretty good job explaining: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXj90GBPdc8

Bob Donovan (DVA11380)

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