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DVA10082
Captain, B777-200
OLP

Joined on August 17 2011
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"Set your compass to 'E' and get out of my airspace!"
Monroe, LA

2,430 legs, 7,971.7 hours
2,003 legs, 6,252.4 hours online
2,395 legs, 7,877.9 hours ACARS
104 legs, 243.6 hours event
366 legs dispatched, 255.4 hours

Posted onPost created on May 06 2016 10:36 ET by Josh Burr

Greetings Pilots-

A problem has risen. One that puzzles me, since my comp specs are so high (will detail later). Well, the issue is the classic Out of virtual memory error. Happens on each approach no matter the length of the flight. I disabled my ORBX, and only have add-on sceneries for my departure and arrival fields; nothing in between. I use the PMDG 747 with Active sky next. No other add-ons. Now, here's my specs:

Intel i7-4790K @ 4.00 GHz.
32.0 GB RAM
Windows 7 Professional
1100W power
Some gaming mother board
GTX 970 4GB

Well the question, of course, is why do I get these messages if I have nearly no add-ons, and a gaming computer.

Frustrated,

-Josh-

Josh Burr (DVA10082)

DVA3665
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP

Joined on October 27 2006
Online Triple Century Club
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Plantation, FL

415 legs, 1,407.3 hours
389 legs, 1,330.8 hours online
414 legs, 1,406.3 hours ACARS
5 legs, 20.8 hours event
5 legs dispatched, 10.8 hours

Posted onPost created on May 06 2016 12:42 ET by Benton Wilmes

Honestly, with FSX a "gaming computer" won't help all that much with OOMs but rather performance in general. FSX has it's limitations and it doesn't matter what your hardware is, you'll keep running into this problem as you get closer and closer to that 4GB limit on your memory. This is one reason why I made the switch to Prepar3d a while ago. It does not have a 64 bit program yet but it's latest version has solved all OOMs for me. The newest version of Prepar3d "dumps" unwanted scenery behind freeing up memory for later in the flight. For example, I can start at EGLL with Aerosofts scenery and make a trip to KSFO with Flightbeam using ORBX scenery throughout. Once I leave the London area, the memory load from EGLL will dump off instead of remaining like previous versions and FSX. It's this lack of getting rid of unused scenery (and more advanced aircraft addons) that plagues most all OOM issues.

Avsim has a whole forum dedicated to OOMs that you can check out though. But it all honesty, if you make the switch to Prepar3d, you'll be happy (if not for the hit to the bank account)...

Benton Wilmes

Senior Captain, B777-200

Posted onPost created on May 06 2016 12:45 ET by Josh Burr

That's the problem, I don't want to re-purchase everything I have just so it'll work in P3D...

Josh Burr (DVA10082)

DVA11380
Senior Captain, A330-300
OLP

Joined on March 20 2013
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"If cats could text you, they wouldn't."
Boston, MA

2,082 legs, 4,889.8 hours
1,722 legs, 3,657.3 hours online
2,060 legs, 4,813.2 hours ACARS
172 legs, 354.7 hours event
422 legs dispatched, 311.4 hours

Posted onPost created on May 06 2016 13:01 ET by Bob Donovan

One of the biggest OOM contributors I had was my LOD_RADIUS being set to 6.5. When I backed it down to 4.5, my OOM's disappeared.

Bob Donovan (DVA11380)

Posted onPost created on May 06 2016 13:06 ET by Josh Burr

Bob Donovan wrote:

One of the biggest OOM contributors I had was my LOD_RADIUS being set to 6.5. When I backed it down to 4.5, my OOM's disappeared.

What....is that...?

Josh Burr (DVA10082)

DVA11021
Captain, B757-200
OLP

Joined on September 13 2012
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Milford, NH

375 legs, 620.5 hours
365 legs, 604.5 hours online
374 legs, 618.9 hours ACARS
21 legs, 51.4 hours event

Posted onPost created on May 06 2016 18:48 ET by Sean Zarella

that is inside your FSX.cfg

Sean Zarella (DVA11021)

Posted onPost created on May 06 2016 18:50 ET by Josh Burr

Already at 4.5

Josh Burr (DVA10082)

Posted onPost created on May 06 2016 18:52 ET by Josh Burr

I guess my question is this: For those of you that switched from FSX to P3D, did you have the re-purchase all your add-ons? I know some are dual compatible, like ORBX, but PMDG isn't. did you need to re-buy PMDG or could you just work out a deal with them. Also, is the transition a difficult one, or is it quite simple to learn? thanks all.

Josh Burr (DVA10082)

Posted onPost created on May 06 2016 20:31 ET by Bob Donovan

Josh Burr wrote:

I guess my question is this: For those of you that switched from FSX to P3D, did you have the re-purchase all your add-ons? I know some are dual compatible, like ORBX, but PMDG isn't. did you need to re-buy PMDG or could you just work out a deal with them. Also, is the transition a difficult one, or is it quite simple to learn? thanks all.

Almost all my FSX add-ons worked in P3D. But... I did have to re-buy the PMDG 737 and 777 for P3D. It was painful, but it's the only way for me to escape FSX and not look back.

Bob Donovan (DVA11380)

Posted onPost created on May 06 2016 20:32 ET by Josh Burr

That's the ouch i'm trying to avoid; I made a ticket with them; we'll see what they have to say...you bought the academic version?

Josh Burr (DVA10082)

Posted onPost created on May 06 2016 20:34 ET by Bob Donovan

Yes. The academic version is the equivalent of FSX. There's a small watermark in the top right corner, but it never bothered me.
PMDG has a lot of threads in their forums explaining why legally they can't offer FSX port/pricing for P3D. I think it's a justified excuse for them to charge us more, but they pulled the plug on the debate quickly.

One thing I'd like to add. While P3D manages VAS better than FSX, it's still a 32 bit app and you will get OOM errors if you crank your settings up too high. I had to sacrifice a little detail (and FTX Vector) so I wouldn't get OOM errors with the PMDG 777. It's better than FSX, but not a miracle cure.

Bob Donovan (DVA11380)

DVA10274
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP

Joined on October 24 2011
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West Jordan, UT

623 legs, 2,427.1 hours
483 legs, 1,679.9 hours online
619 legs, 2,380.7 hours ACARS
5 legs, 12.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on May 07 2016 12:36 ET by Kris Greenough

I can agree, p3d is the way to go. However, I did not see it mentioned here, make sure you have the HIGHMEMFIX=1 in you fsx.cfg That will fix most of your problems. But then so will p3d, for a price.

Kris Greenough

Senior Captain, B777-200

DVA12989
First Officer, DC-8-61

Joined on May 18 2016
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""What does 'Land 3' mean again?""
Southeastern United States

46 legs, 127.6 hours
40 legs, 116.8 hours online
46 legs, 127.6 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on July 01 2016 19:31 ET by James Hyun

Have you tried applying the 4GB patch to it?
I mean, it's an out of memory error, and FSX is a 32-bit application (the last time I checked, anyway). Easy to see why it would throw an OOM at you.

http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php

I used to get OOMs left and right on FS9 before I used this. Works wonders.

James Hyun

First Officer, DC-8-61

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