Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - Historical Northeast DC-3 Routes Added

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | Historical Northeast DC-3 Routes Added

DVA2887
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Charlotte, NC

1,286 legs, 1,796.2 hours
840 legs, 1,047.8 hours online
1,268 legs, 1,774.2 hours ACARS
31 legs, 49.6 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.5 hours

Posted onPost created on July 30 2016 11:43 ET by Andrew Vane

Courtesy of DC-6 CP Jim Daigneau, I've added new DC-3 routes which were started in 1942 by Northeast Airlines to ferry troops and supplies across the Atlantic. These flights start at NEH 2600 and upwards. Props (pun intended) so those of you daring enough to fly these in a propliner! Thanks so much to Jim for providing these flights. It just took me a while to implement them.

These routes were flown until the war ended in 1945. with the addition of these routes are some new airports which I know you'll all enjoy flying into. Be aware of the short runways and lack of visual approach lights. I would also recommend flying these now while its summer. smile

Be sure to update your ACARS by typing in .update in the chat box.

For more info on these routes, read "Delta: An Airline and its Aircraft" by REG Davies or Reginald Cleveland's "Air Transport at War". Many of the real world pioneers who explored and created these routes risked life and limb and aircraft to establish them. cool

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West Monroe, LA

1,808 legs, 2,793.5 hours
1,716 legs, 2,499.9 hours online
1,755 legs, 2,711.3 hours ACARS
1 legs dispatched, 1.9 hours

Posted onPost created on July 30 2016 12:29 ET by Ronnie Jacola

How cool is that?! Thanks Jim and Drew!

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Daytona Beach, FL

3,271 legs, 11,709.7 hours
2,885 legs, 10,250.1 hours online
3,142 legs, 11,149.0 hours ACARS
326 legs, 874.1 hours event
274 legs dispatched, 316.5 hours

Posted onPost created on July 30 2016 13:22 ET by Soonho Lee

Sweeeeeettt! Thank you Jim D! This means I can now cross the Atlantic with P31s biggrin

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Kamloops, BC Canada

1,060 legs, 5,399.0 hours
87 legs, 356.0 hours online
1,059 legs, 5,397.6 hours ACARS
15 legs, 48.6 hours event
3,528 legs, 15,773.5 hours total
15 legs dispatched, 24.4 hours

Posted onPost created on July 30 2016 13:50 ET by Bill Gardiner

Gonna have some fun with this. Thanks!

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Cripple Creek, CO

10,839 legs, 31,484.7 hours
10,329 legs, 30,211.1 hours online
10,731 legs, 31,141.6 hours ACARS
1,535 legs, 4,172.7 hours event
0 legs dispatched, 2.3 hours

Posted onPost created on July 30 2016 14:18 ET by Jim Rose

Awesome!

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DVA5643
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Hampton, GA USA

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5 legs, 3.8 hours online
1,907 legs, 2,878.2 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on July 30 2016 15:30 ET by Jim Daigneau

I'm looking forward to the challenge too. If you fly with real wx, be sure you check BGBW. If you can't get in, there's likely no where to go.

Jim Daigneau (DVA5643)

Posted onPost created on July 30 2016 15:41 ET by Andrew Vane

ha ha ha "if you get in".

Andrew Vane (DVA2887)

Posted onPost created on July 30 2016 17:48 ET by Bill Gardiner

That was Bluie One in the old RCAF days. My dad was in 427 Squadron in the 50's. He and 8 or so other RCAF pilots-and they were like 20 years old and had 8 hours jet time-picked up brand new F-86's at the plant in Montreal to ferry them to Europe. They were to be based at 3 Wing in Zweibrucken. On the Goose Bay Bluie One leg the weather changed when they were past the point of no return so had to keep going. The squadron leader was at Bluie One waiting when it socked in and was standing outside about 10 mins past the point where they calculated they would have run out of fuel and started crying and said "OMG, I've lost them all". Then they heard a jet engine and in zero zero weather they started landing. One ran out of fuel on the runway and they had to rush out and push him off. I'm glad they made it because my dad met a Flight Control Officer and married her and I was born in Zweibrucken. There are more stories from that ferry flight, it would make a good book.

Bill Gardiner

First Officer, B747-400

Posted onPost created on July 31 2016 14:44 ET by Jim Daigneau

Great story, Bill. Heading off from Goose in a single seat, single engine jet was definitely guts ball. Some of us already know the story of "The Lost Squadron", which ultimately gave us "Glacier Girl", the P-38F which graces airshows from time to time. You can read about that adventure here: http://p38assn.org/glaciergirl/recovery.htm It was from this event that America concluded that trying to fly fighters, even twin engine ones, across the pond might not be the best idea. Bill's dad at least was not in a shooting war so a little more attention to safety and common sense was (usually) exercised.
This is also a short but comprehensive history of these routes: http://military.wikia.com/wiki/North_Atlantic_air_ferry_route_in_World_War_II
If you don't have the time to read, (I don't remember wherer I saw this)

Jim Daigneau (DVA5643)

Posted onPost created on July 31 2016 14:59 ET by Jim Daigneau

As I was saying, I don't remember where I saw this, but the military code word for Greenland was "Bluie". The USCG surveyed the east and west coasts for landing sites. Not so secretly, the west coast was Bluie West, the east coast was Bluie East, and the sites were numbered south to north. If you've ever seen Greenland, it is a breathtaking sight, but not that great a place for airplanes, at least without ski kits. So, by 1942, the only really useable runways were Bluie West 1 and 8 (Sonde Strom), and Bluie East 2 and 3. There were other spots but there basically crash landing fields, which admittedly was better than ditching which assured death. Bluie West 1 was the most critical as it was the closest to both Goose and Reykjavik. Pretty interesting history.
MSFS and P3D have better NAVAIDS that the guys had in the bad old days so your chances of getting are much better. Have fun!

Jim Daigneau (DVA5643)

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