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Is anybody running FS9 on an Nvidia GTX 10 Series card?? |
DVA4788
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Posted onPost created on
July 23 2017 23:33 ET by Jon Michael Prenovost
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I'm just wondering, because I've read a couple of posts from different sites claiming that the GTX 10 Series card can't run FS9 due to textures being too old... So anybody here at DVA running FS9 on a 10 series successfully??
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DVA4788
Chief Pilot, L-1011-100
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220 legs,
398.1 hours online
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Posted onPost created on
July 26 2017 02:35 ET by Jon Michael Prenovost
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With nobody responding to my post for a couple of days now, it got me wondering...if perhaps most folks thought this thread and it's question were perhaps a joke?? I mean seriously, who runs FS9 on the latest Nvidia 10 Series Pascal driven graphics cards?? As of last night, well...I now do!! I purchased an EVGA GTX 1080Ti, and I can honestly say calling this card a BEAST doesn't even begin to do it justice!! Why might you ask would I run FS9 on this much card?? Because the purpose of the card was to future proof me for Prepared 3D v4 64 Bit version and beyond for a while. However, having said that, I've got a MAJOR investment in FS9, to the tune of some $3,500+ in software addons & payware over the past 11 years. I still fly it, and will do so for as long as I can keep it running and maintained. I just wanted to make sure that with the introduction of an Nvidia 10 series Pascal card I wasn't sealing the fate on my FS9 empire...
And just a footnote... Yes, as everybody knows, back in the day, FS9 and, to a large degree, FSX were both more software intensive than GPU intensive... Well folks I'm here to tell you, that isn't completely true, With this GTX-1080Ti, in just two nights, I've seen crystal clear proof that a power house GPU can & does make a huge impact on both FS9 & FSX... I'm seeing things, and doing things with both of them I've never seen before, and we are not just talking about improved frame rates, were are talking about other critical performance issues... I'll give you a prime example, prior to this card, anytime and with any other card, using FSX on multiple monitors, if I opened up an additional window, then undocked it, and pushed it off on another screen, my frame rates would split in half, then each additional undocked window, would divide the frame rates in half yet again... Not very usable in multiple monitor setups... Not with this card, ZERO change in frame rates!! My config files are STOCK for both, no tweaking of any kind required to get there... GTX-1080Ti, a Jedi Master in the graphics world, a total freak of nature!!
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DVA12650
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Posted onPost created on
July 26 2017 08:11 ET by Noah Weber
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The thought of anyone running FS9 on that card makes me sad. Actually, it's the thought of NOT running P3Dv4 with it. I understand the investment you've made in FS9 but you might as well start your transition sooner rather than later. I have a feeling it will take you about 5 seconds after you start P3D on that system before you'll wonder why you waited so long. A 1080Ti!? You could get consistent 60 FPS with max graphics and some heavy add-ons. If that card by itself wasn't worth more than my entire current computer I would've bought one weeks ago.
Just my two cents!
-Noah
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DVA2887
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Posted onPost created on
July 26 2017 10:26 ET by Andrew Vane
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Sounds like you are the first successful test case Jon! More power to you! If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Sean Zarealla here I believe runs FS9 and loves it. Its extremely stable. I had a touch choice to move to FSX SE but I'm set now for quite a while. Best wishes with your awesome setup!
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DVA11021
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Posted onPost created on
July 26 2017 10:33 ET by Sean Zarella
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I run fs9 with a ton of add ons, and using the cs757 graphics heavy, with custom gauges, with a r9 390 8gb, I think that the fs9 not working with 10 cards has to do with a KB update to fs9 causing it not to boot,
go to your system update and show more updates and find kb3086255 thats the culprit most likely
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DVA2887
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1,283 legs, 1,792.7 hours
837 legs,
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Posted onPost created on
July 26 2017 13:56 ET by Andrew Vane
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That is a killer video card Sean!
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DVA11021
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Posted onPost created on
July 26 2017 14:18 ET by Sean Zarella
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yeah was the only card at the time within my budget that can do 5 displays natively 
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DVA4788
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Posted onPost created on
July 27 2017 01:33 ET by Jon Michael Prenovost
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Sean, I'm currently building a full scale sim deck at home, and it will be running a total of 10 monitors off of a single PC... 10 Monitors happens to be the max that Windows-7 can field and/or recognize... Only 2 of the 10 monitors will provide outside visuals, the other 8 will be driving the instrument panel & overhead... There are another 7 Android Tablets, utilizing Wifi based software talking to Flight Sim (aka FS9, FSX, X-Plane-11, P3D v4) which also compliments the instrument panel... To get the performance I was after, I ended up with the EVGA GTX-1080Ti, and two ASUS GTX Titan Blacks (reference card model), all in one box... Insane I know!! However, the goal...Flight Safety in the den of my house!!
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DVA11021
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Milford, NH
375 legs, 620.5 hours
365 legs,
604.5 hours online
374 legs,
618.9 hours ACARS
21 legs,
51.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 27 2017 10:38 ET by Sean Zarella
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hmmm you may want to have 2 pcs, one for instrument and handling wifi, and one for outside, using wide fs, i dont think you have enough pci express lanes for all the cards talking and using 8x slots and 4x slots for the xps.
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DVA4788
Chief Pilot, L-1011-100
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Joined on August 02 2007
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Wichita, KS
471 legs, 884.0 hours
220 legs,
398.1 hours online
459 legs,
859.5 hours ACARS
2 legs,
5.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 27 2017 23:41 ET by Jon Michael Prenovost
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Sean, I've been running 7-10 monitors off a single PC for a little over 3 years now, with no problems, using just 3 PCIe slots, (1) 16x and (2) 8x slots... Once I discovered that there is ZERO performance difference between 16x & 8x (no pun intended) it was game on!! As far as the Android tablets are concerned they aren't even linked into the video, they only exchange telemetry and settings back and forth via FSUIPC, so they aren't even tapping PCIe, they handle their own graphics locally per tablet, so almost no overhead upon the system as a whole, just numbers & data passing back & forth over WiFi... I've got the GTX-1080Ti and two GTX Titan Blacks on the same mother board fielding 10 hard wired monitors through the three of them...
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DVA11021
Captain, B757-200
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374 legs,
618.9 hours ACARS
21 legs,
51.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 28 2017 09:09 ET by Sean Zarella
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wow thats great ! now back to the origional question, Im my experience, fs9 does work off the cpu not Gpu, I know that a KB update killed fs9 boot, and win10
Also with a new iteration of win10 killing fs9 in full screen, i read this post here around a fix
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/fs9-2004-compatability-with-windows-10/72da8076-26ac-4cd0-ab5c-7c9b8782dc05
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DVA4788
Chief Pilot, L-1011-100
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Joined on August 02 2007
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"Fly it like a Samsonite Gorilla!!"
Wichita, KS
471 legs, 884.0 hours
220 legs,
398.1 hours online
459 legs,
859.5 hours ACARS
2 legs,
5.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 28 2017 15:23 ET by Jon Michael Prenovost
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Sean, I'm not running Win-10, running Win-7 Pro, with no problems... As far as CPU vs GPU, yes this is true, back in the day for FS9 the technology didn't exist, and it was coded CPU dependent... Earlier I wasn't suggesting otherwise, I was merely pointing out that I disagree with the notion that a high end card is a waste on FS9, as I've seen crystal clear proof of this... What FS9 lacks with its CPU dependency, a high end card more than makes up for in image processing & rendering prowess... Personally for myself, the best "add-on" EVER to come along for FS9 was Nvidia Inspector, with allot of patience & tweaking in Nvidia Inspector you can make FS9 flat out scream with maximum eye candy & rock solid stable frame rates, and I'm talking super stable rates...
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DVA11021
Captain, B757-200
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Joined on September 13 2012
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Milford, NH
375 legs, 620.5 hours
365 legs,
604.5 hours online
374 legs,
618.9 hours ACARS
21 legs,
51.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 29 2017 11:17 ET by Sean Zarella
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Well with my 3 x outside screens and 2 lower PFD and eicas screens all 23 1080p with eyefinity and captain sim 757, utusa. all payware airports rex, ase, ect getting 47 -60 fps/ with sliders 1 notch from max.
4790k 4.7 ghz r9 390 8gb
whats limiting you is your use of vram, and only single cpu core utilization. with your setup you should run everything maxed and run anything 100 fps or more but probably better suited for xp11 64bit or pp3d 4 just imo.
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DVA4788
Chief Pilot, L-1011-100
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"Fly it like a Samsonite Gorilla!!"
Wichita, KS
471 legs, 884.0 hours
220 legs,
398.1 hours online
459 legs,
859.5 hours ACARS
2 legs,
5.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 30 2017 23:40 ET by Jon Michael Prenovost
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Sean the GTX-1080Ti will be running a pair of 40" Vizio TV's for the outside visuals only, the GTX Titan-Blacks with be handling the other 8 monitors scattered about the instrument panel, center pedestal, and overhead panel. I manually lock the FPS to 52 inside FS9 & FSX as that, for these Vizio TV's, really controls screen tearing, especially on panning moves with the view & camera angles, quite well. I run Active Sky Evolution (last product HiFi made which was cross-platform between FS9 & FSX), REX, FS Global, various payware aircraft, airports, and regional scenery, along with FS Global 2010. With the sliders opened up to max, including the FPS to unlimited, I average around 125-140 FPS, and drop back to around 70-90 under the additional load of severe weather or high traffic loads at airports. Locking to 52 FPS I get really stable & reliable performance, which in turn knocks the clock speeds within the cards down several notches, and brings the temps down as well... Thermal control on the EVGA GTX-1080Ti is unlike anything I've ever seen or experienced before, that card is freak of nature when it comes to keeping itself in bounds & on point...
X-Plane-11 is already on board, and P3D v4 will be here by the end of the year.
My system spec... AMD FX-8370 @ 4.5 Ghz (Liquid Cooled) & 32Gb DDR3 @ 1866Mhz
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