Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - Alternate airports with ACARS

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | Alternate airports with ACARS

DVA10723
Captain, B737-800
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Myrtle Beach, SC

1,547 legs, 4,986.4 hours
19 legs, 27.1 hours online
1,525 legs, 4,930.9 hours ACARS
2 legs, 4.6 hours event

Posted onPost created on September 23 2017 13:35 ET by Josh Martin

If you do a flight and end up at the alternate airport instead of original destination, will you still be able to get the flight and submit the report? Just curious if it'd recognize what happened and allow it...

Josh Martin

Captain, B737-800

DVA2887
Senior Captain, A320
OLP, 737-ATP, VFRADV
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1,283 legs, 1,792.7 hours
837 legs, 1,044.3 hours online
1,265 legs, 1,770.7 hours ACARS
31 legs, 49.6 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.5 hours

Posted onPost created on September 24 2017 07:35 ET by Andrew Vane

I think acars will allow it. however, this is a diversion so please follow the procedures in NOTAM 33.

Andrew Vane (DVA2887)

DVA5857
Captain, B767-300

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515 legs, 1,054.0 hours
502 legs, 1,022.2 hours online
513 legs, 1,050.8 hours ACARS
15 legs, 33.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on October 27 2017 00:53 ET by Chuck Angle

Could we request an alternate just to practice a diversion? I know it has to be an airfield with Delta ground services and we have 48 hours to fly from the alternate to the original destination.

Chuck Angle

Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on October 27 2017 12:41 ET by Andrew Vane

Chuck, if you follow the NOTAM procedures, yes, you can purposely fly a diversion. I'd actually like to fly a flight, divert, hold for 45 min and then land to see if I still have the planned 30 min contingency of fuel left. In the 737ATP course, one of the check rides requires a diversion on purpose. smile

An easier tactic is the plan in ACARS the flight to the diversion, but fly to a different origin and then divert on purpose. In other words, indicate in ACARS ATL to CLT with Alternate GSP. But, outside of ACARS, you're planning a flight ATL - GSP with Alternate CLT. Fly ATL to GSP but on final approach, execute a missed approach per the approach chart and then "divert" to CLT. ACARS will think you flew to CLT on purpose and you will have practiced an intentional divert. This will be easier to approve and you bypass the NOTAM. Just indicate in your comments that you flew final to GSP and missed approach to CLT.

Andrew Vane (DVA2887)

DVA043
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2,306 legs, 9,290.0 hours
240 legs, 553.9 hours online
1,964 legs, 8,083.1 hours ACARS
75 legs, 196.3 hours event
2,342 legs, 9,424.9 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4 hours

Posted onPost created on October 27 2017 13:20 ET by Luke Kolin

Sorry to step in, but could you try a "traditional" diversion filing to a different airport? Golgotha 8.0 has some slightly better diversion handling and I'd like to test it out.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

DVA8180
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP, 737-ATP, VFRADV

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Lynchburg, VA

3,816 legs, 8,894.3 hours
140 legs, 226.6 hours online
3,770 legs, 8,754.2 hours ACARS
19 legs, 30.8 hours event

Posted onPost created on October 27 2017 13:36 ET by Matt Lynn

Used to be, and I say used to because it has been 17 years since I've flown under the 121 rules, you had to plan to land with 45 minutes fuel on board... planned is the key word... it didn't make it an emergency if you diverted and landed with less fuel in the tanks... because on paper you could show where it was planned. We could have up to 2 alternate airports, fuel had to be planned to the most distant alternate not both... then 45 minutes

Matt Lynn

Senior Captain, B747-400

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