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DVA11652
Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on July 22 2013
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Twinsburg, OH

545 legs, 1,471.1 hours
6 legs, 8.3 hours online
542 legs, 1,466.7 hours ACARS
3 legs, 3.8 hours event

Posted onPost created on April 08 2019 01:02 ET by Jason Spiskey

I have P3Dv4 installed on a pretty old computer. FSX used to run pretty well with some heavy add ons. I have installed P3Dv4 on it's own brand new hard drive. My system is a NVIDIA GTX 560, Core i5 2200k OC to 3.3 ghz 8gig ram on a win 7 pro platform. My issue seems to be that my screen when I am in a virtual cockpit of any add on aircraft is extremly jerky with a lot of latency. Shift Z shows my frame rates running around 20FPS with some jumps, but nothing that should be showing my screen so jerky. It is actually making me slightly motion sick. If I switch to the exterior model, or I use one of the included aircraft, I stream a long at 30FPS which I have it locked at and everything goes great. I have tried messing with different display settings and nothing changes it. I can set scenery to lowest setting, turn off shadows and I get the same performance as I do everything maxed. My guess is that part of it is my RAM is pretty full. My computer is showing I am using about 5.5gb of ram, CPU usage is running at only about 38percent with 110% Frequency

Jason Spiskey (DVA11652)

DVA13576
Captain, B777-200

Joined on December 11 2018
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Midwestern United States

188 legs, 430.1 hours
114 legs, 203.3 hours online
186 legs, 426.8 hours ACARS
19 legs, 33.3 hours event

Posted onPost created on April 08 2019 10:07 ET by Tom Pletzke

Hi Jason, I like how specific you were in your definition above. Nice job! But even with that good explanation performance is always a difficult question. I think the best bet is to start with MSI Afterburner to review what is happening with CPU, GPU, Memory. MSI Afterburner is free and displays your vital information right on the screen while flying. This will give you more insight into your specific issues. One thing I think you might find is your memory is a little low at 8gb. I would recommend at least 16gb. My system runs around 12-14gb with addons in p3dv4 and I have 32gb. I have Active Sky, PMDG planes, GSX, ORBX (Base, vector, North America, and a few airports like Jackson Hole). Also, you might find some tweaks for your specific addon aircraft that will help. Many of the payware aircraft have options to help performance like removing the co-pilot displays. MSI should get the ball rolling for you and you may need to lower some of your settings in the simulator while flying payware. You can also save your settings for each situation based on aircraft and where you are flying like a big airport or small airport. In addition, search our threads because there is a lot of information about performance, tuning, and system specs out there.

Tom Pletzke

Captain, B777-200

DVA2887
Senior Captain, A320
OLP, 737-ATP, VFRADV
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Charlotte, NC

1,283 legs, 1,792.7 hours
837 legs, 1,044.3 hours online
1,265 legs, 1,770.7 hours ACARS
31 legs, 49.6 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.5 hours

Posted onPost created on April 08 2019 12:10 ET by Andrew Vane

From what i've read, your system would technically run p3dv4 but not the way you'd like (as you're sharing). I have i3 7450k; 8gb ram, 4gb 1050 ti video card and I wouldn't even try running p3dv4 with this setup. I think your cpu is 2nd generation also and you'd want 5th generation i5 at a minimum. 2ghz even overclocked to 3.3ghz is still very slow in my opinion. This doesn't help you i know.

It sounds like your GPU is the bottleneck right now though.

Andrew Vane (DVA2887)

Posted onPost created on April 08 2019 13:13 ET by Tom Pletzke

Jason, here are my specs and I run things pretty well but I am far from turning it all up. i7-4770K (3.5ghz) overclocked to 4.1ghz. gtx 1080 video card, SSD harddrive, 32 gb memory. I get between 19-40 fps depending on location and aircraft. If i use a plane that comes with p3d, I get like 80 plus fps. There is a big jump down with payware aircraft but I can't fly without PMDG. smile

Tom Pletzke

Captain, B777-200

Posted onPost created on April 09 2019 23:26 ET by Jason Spiskey

Thanks everyone. I was looking into using my tax return to get a whole new computer since mine is rather outdated. Since the IRS tax changes, I got enough back to buy a pack of off brand gum. So I am trying to bandaid my current system. I just found it odd that I am getting 7 or more FPS increases in performance but the stutters were so bad. I also was thinking it might be my GPU and memory since P3Dv4 takes advantage of newer technology and with the 64bit it would want to use more RAM than FSX. I was trying to hold off with switching, but my FSX finally reached a point that it wanted a new install. I bought Orbx Orlando and installed, went to run FSX and it would just freeze on the splash screen while trying to update the scenery. Couldn't fix it from that point forward so decided to just switch and see what I could with my current system. I have a friend who has some pretty good refurbished GPUs and try and update the memory to see if I can get a mediocre system running until I can update everything.

Jason Spiskey (DVA11652)

Posted onPost created on April 10 2019 11:34 ET by Andrew Vane

Jason Spiskey wrote:

Since the IRS tax changes, I got enough back to buy a pack of off brand gum.

I don't want this thread to degrade but I definitely hear ya on that one! My youngins are moving into the non-child tax credit phase so I saw less this year too.

BTW, a good reinstall of FSX does tend to clean up a lot of stuff. I made this a yearly practice. FSX SE was fairly easy to reinstall. I just backed up all my cfg and stuff so i could bring it over easily.

Andrew Vane (DVA2887)

Posted onPost created on April 13 2019 01:01 ET by Jason Spiskey

I have been wanting to migrate to P3D for some time. Seems that more and more developers are dropping FSX. I am going to keep using it since a lot of my favorite aircraft are not coming over P3D, like my current NGX and the JS41 and a lot of the captainsims like the 727. I downloaded Afterburner and it does seem that the issue is my GPU. If i go to stock vehicle in a stock airport, my GPU runs about 68%, stock vehicle at a add-on scenery and I am up to 90%, add a payware aircraft and my GPU doesnt flinch off of 99%. RAM holds around 6GB used but maybe some faster sticks are not a bad idea. Thanks everyone! I have started working on becoming a Flight Nurse and went back to school. With school and work, I just haven't had the time to log hours. I want to get back up but I dont have much time to reinstall FSX and uncluster that and until I can beef my computer up some, seems I am bit grounded from logging flights.

Jason Spiskey (DVA11652)

Posted onPost created on April 15 2019 10:51 ET by Tom Pletzke

Hi Jason, I think its great you are continuing your education to become a Flight Nurse. That sounds like a good career that will save and help many people. And as a bonus, it pays well and you will be able to afford an excellent simulator setup smile

Tom Pletzke

Captain, B777-200

Posted onPost created on May 02 2019 10:29 ET by Jason Spiskey

Tom Pletzke wrote:

Hi Jason, I think its great you are continuing your education to become a Flight Nurse. That sounds like a good career that will save and help many people. And as a bonus, it pays well and you will be able to afford an excellent simulator setup :)

Thanks Tom. I am lucky enough to work for the number 2 ranked hospital in the world. I am currently a paramedic on the ground unit and the job of flight nurse is not much different. Once I get my RN and do my 3 years of experience in the ICUs, I can come back to the transport team as a flight nurse. We are international and have 2 helicopters, 3 fixed wing aircraft, a mobile stroke treatment unit, 3 adult ground transport vehicles and 1 neonate/pediatric transport vehicle. We have facilities in Ohio, Florida, Nevada, Toronto, Abu Dahbi, and soon London, so I will be going all over the world.

Jason Spiskey (DVA11652)

Posted onPost created on May 02 2019 10:38 ET by Jason Spiskey

Andrew Vane wrote:

From what i've read, your system would technically run p3dv4 but not the way you'd like (as you're sharing). I have i3 7450k; 8gb ram, 4gb 1050 ti video card and I wouldn't even try running p3dv4 with this setup. I think your cpu is 2nd generation also and you'd want 5th generation i5 at a minimum. 2ghz even overclocked to 3.3ghz is still very slow in my opinion. This doesn't help you i know.

It sounds like your GPU is the bottleneck right now though.

Yea, my processor is 2nd Gen and from what I have been told, because it is a true quad core, is that it was probably manufactured as a i7 but failed some tests or something so they rebranded it as a i5. (not really sure how true this is, a friend of mine who works on computers for a living told me this.) When I got this rig 6 years ago, it was near top of the line but as it goes in technology, it soon became outdated. I didn't have the BEST OF THE BEST at that time because, like now, i couldn't afford it. I can't really complain though because I have always been able to run all the add-ons I ever purchased with little issues. My biggest issues were with FSLabs Concorde before they released the update a few years ago, and with Washington DC X by Dzwecki designs. For some reason I expected P3DV4 to work just as well as FSX had, but with P3Dv4 it makes use of newer technology and hardware that is probably causing my issues.

Jason Spiskey (DVA11652)

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