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DVA9545
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP, 737-ATP
Joined on March 03 2011
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Quad-Jet Quartermaster
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Toulouse 500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Online Twenty Century
"YUPIIIII" Goiás Brazil
2,492 legs, 5,039.3 hours
2,321 legs,
4,760.9 hours online 2,484 legs,
5,009.7 hours ACARS 271 legs,
683.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 16 2022 16:55 ET by Thiago Braga
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G5O-UAg35M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C18P0gLGtY8&t=139s
It was great to watch and know a little about the B717 role.
Hope you guys would enjoy it.

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DVA4241
Assistant Chief Pilot, MD-88
Joined on March 20 2007
Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Long Beach 500 Club
Online Millennium Club
"Kepping my head in the clouds" Kansas City, MO
1,296 legs, 2,494.8 hours
1,136 legs,
2,197.3 hours online 1,259 legs,
2,399.1 hours ACARS 28 legs,
67.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 16 2022 22:52 ET by Chad Rhinehart
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Great video find. This is the aircraft that I fly 90% of the time. TFDI did a fantastic job with bringing this aircraft to market. I HIGHLY encourage pilots to fly this plane. It does take a min or two to fly it well but I promise you it’s worth it.

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DVA8088
Chief Pilot, B737-800
OLP, 737-ATP
Joined on December 11 2009
50 State Club
Globetrotter
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Everett Quad-Millennium Club
Events Triple Century Club
Online Sixty Century Club
Six Million Mile Club
Seven Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"Real Time & Online. The only way to fly!!" Corona, CA
7,254 legs, 15,027.6 hours
6,841 legs,
13,590.0 hours online 7,193 legs,
14,859.1 hours ACARS 372 legs,
926.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 17 2022 11:12 ET by Scott Simmons
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Chad. What do you use for the ZFWCG?
I fly to Hawai'i often and island hop in the TFDI. I've never been able to find a value for the ZFWCG.

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DVA13151
Captain, MD-88
Joined on January 03 2017
50 State Club
Kangaroo Club
US Mountaineer Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
Empresario 100 Club
Globetrotter
Quincentenary Club
Burleson, TX
556 legs, 1,049.5 hours
554 legs,
1,044.6 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 17 2022 12:40 ET by Harvey Brammer
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sure wish they would bring it to MSFS
Harvey BrammerCaptain, MD-88
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DVA12746
Chief Pilot, B747-400
DISPATCHER
Joined on September 06 2015
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
Everett Century Club
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
""Whatever It Takes..."" Midwestern United States
339 legs, 796.8 hours
5 legs,
8.5 hours online 332 legs,
768.3 hours ACARS 0 legs dispatched, 2.7
hours
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Posted onPost created on
September 17 2022 22:17 ET by Ken Webber
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Scott Simmons wrote:
Chad. What do you use for the ZFWCG?
I fly to Hawai'i often and island hop in the TFDI. I've never been able to find a value for the ZFWCG.
According to this from TFDi, the ZFWCG isn't needed: https://docs.invernyx.com/en/717/general-knowledge

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DVA8088
Chief Pilot, B737-800
OLP, 737-ATP
Joined on December 11 2009
50 State Club
Globetrotter
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Everett Quad-Millennium Club
Events Triple Century Club
Online Sixty Century Club
Six Million Mile Club
Seven Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"Real Time & Online. The only way to fly!!" Corona, CA
7,254 legs, 15,027.6 hours
6,841 legs,
13,590.0 hours online 7,193 legs,
14,859.1 hours ACARS 372 legs,
926.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 17 2022 23:19 ET by Scott Simmons
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Thanks Ken.
I found it in the doc you linked:
"The load statistics are used during the Weight INIT page for the GW, BLST IN ZFW, and TOCG selection. Please note: ZFWCG is not needed."

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DVA4241
Assistant Chief Pilot, MD-88
Joined on March 20 2007
Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Long Beach 500 Club
Online Millennium Club
"Kepping my head in the clouds" Kansas City, MO
1,296 legs, 2,494.8 hours
1,136 legs,
2,197.3 hours online 1,259 legs,
2,399.1 hours ACARS 28 legs,
67.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 22 2022 17:47 ET by Chad Rhinehart
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Correct, sorry guys I just saw this post.

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DVA4241
Assistant Chief Pilot, MD-88
Joined on March 20 2007
Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Long Beach 500 Club
Online Millennium Club
"Kepping my head in the clouds" Kansas City, MO
1,296 legs, 2,494.8 hours
1,136 legs,
2,197.3 hours online 1,259 legs,
2,399.1 hours ACARS 28 legs,
67.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 22 2022 17:50 ET by Chad Rhinehart
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Harvey,
I too wish they would bring it up to 2020. In fact I am stuck using it in P3dv4 because in V5 it has some weird well know VRAM issues. Unless you have mega high VRAM it’s unusable. I’m actually going to reach out to TFDI and see if they’ve come up with a issue to correct this problem. As stated before it’s a well known issue.

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DVA14133
First Officer, A350-900
Joined on August 22 2022
50 State Club
Globetrotter
DVA Two-Year Anniversary
US Coastal Club
Seven Century Club
Everett 250 Club
Norman, OK
739 legs, 1,401.8 hours
738 legs,
1,399.8 hours ACARS CURRENTLY LOGGED IN
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Posted onPost created on
October 12 2022 08:18 ET by Raymond Stone
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Is the B-717 included with the 737 program? I don't see it listed as an approved aircraft for me to fly. It's also not listed as an additional rating available. Do I need to request permission from someone or just download it and fly?
Raymond StoneFirst Officer, A350-900
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DVA388
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP
Joined on December 14 2001
50 State Club
B757 100 Club
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Online Century Club
Stage 1 Jet Triple Century Club
Globetrotter
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Millennium Club
Million Mile Club
Midwestern United States
1,252 legs, 2,773.2 hours
153 legs,
178.1 hours online 1,172 legs,
2,643.0 hours ACARS 10 legs,
22.0 hours event 39 legs dispatched, 67.6
hours
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Posted onPost created on
October 12 2022 09:34 ET by David Vega
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Raymond, it's listed in Stage 2's MD-88 Program as a primary aircraft. See Pilots Manual, page 15.
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