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DVA9655
Senior Captain, B747-400
Gold
OLP
Joined on January 01 2011
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Eight Century Club
Golden State Club
Two Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Double Century Club
"DAL9655, you are cleared for takeoff" New York, NY
895 legs, 4,587.4 hours
211 legs,
773.2 hours online 695 legs,
3,646.5 hours ACARS 12 legs,
40.6 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 14 2023 14:55 ET by Remy Mermelstein
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Hi All,
Beginning to test the waters about getting a desktop... it's been 5 years since i had a desktop, and the industry is eons from where it was when I last went through the process of getting one. Where are people getting desktops for Simming nowadays? building them? obviously cost is a consideration, but I also want to build a really good rig that is somewhat futureproofed / can upgrade in the future if needed.
Many manufactures out there... digitalstorm, cyberpowerpc, etc. I've had good success w/ cyberpowerpc in past but open to other suggestions.
I have never built a PC and not sure I trust myself to build one myself.
Finally, what kind of specs are people building these days to run MSFS2020 w/ addons at the higher end of settings?
thanks,
remy
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DVA3310
Chief Pilot, A320
Platinum
Joined on July 07 2006
50 State Club
White Knuckles Club
Million Mile Club
Everett 500 Club
Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Globetrotter
Eurocap Club
Houston, TX
1,441 legs, 4,304.8 hours
34 legs,
60.9 hours online 1,402 legs,
4,176.2 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 16 2023 09:42 ET by Axel Guillebastre
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I went to my local Micro Center store to buy my rig and widescreen.
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DVA14023
First Officer, B767-300
360°
Joined on August 08 2021
50 State Club
Globetrotter
US Coastal Club
B757 100 Club
US Mountaineer Club
Commuter Conquest
Everett 500 Club
Two Million Mile Club
DVA Two-Year Anniversary
Online Eight Century
Flying Colonel
"What goes up must come down, gently ..." New Zealand
1,527 legs, 5,356.6 hours
815 legs,
1,793.1 hours online 1,486 legs,
5,170.7 hours ACARS 9 legs,
12.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 16 2023 12:21 ET by Mike Bell
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I'm in New Zealand so not much advice for USA but I have built many PC's just for sim. Sims in the past have been CPU hungry and now graphics card hungry too.
You certainly need a high power supply. The day you buy or build will also be the day it is outdated by one or more components. I have always spec'ed my PC's higher than what is asked for each flight sim FS3 through to MSFS and all the P3D's. It soon catches up and leaves you wanting for more.
I'm never content until all the sliders are to the max and I fuss over it quite a bit. $$$$'s Biggest recent mistake was I should have put in a 2 gig SSD.
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DVA2887
Senior Captain, B727-200
Gold
OLP, 737-ATP, VFRADV E-MAIL
Joined on January 30 2006
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Tri-Jet Triumph
US Coastal Club
Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
US Mountaineer Club
Toulouse 250 Club
Online Seven Century Club
Charlotte, NC
1,224 legs, 1,724.6 hours
793 legs,
997.8 hours online 1,207 legs,
1,703.8 hours ACARS 31 legs,
49.6 hours event 3 legs dispatched, 2.5
hours
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Posted onPost created on
September 17 2023 12:07 ET by Andrew Vane
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HI Remy. I built my own system Not hard. Just youtube vids.
My system:
i7 12700 3.7 Ghz
32GB ram
3 SSD's (2 or 1TB and 1 is 500GB I think)
Nvidia 10gb (I think) 3080 GPU
I don't run MSFS2020 but XP12 runs just fine (and XP11 did as well). I dont have all the sliders to the right but mid-way mostly and runs smoothly with good visuals and experience for me.
Andrew VaneSenior Captain, B727-200
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DVA9655
Senior Captain, B747-400
Gold
OLP
Joined on January 01 2011
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Eight Century Club
Golden State Club
Two Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Double Century Club
"DAL9655, you are cleared for takeoff" New York, NY
895 legs, 4,587.4 hours
211 legs,
773.2 hours online 695 legs,
3,646.5 hours ACARS 12 legs,
40.6 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 17 2023 14:44 ET by Remy Mermelstein
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Thanks for the advice guys, much appreciated!
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DVA9545
Senior Captain, B777-200
Platinum
OLP, 737-ATP
Joined on March 03 2011
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Quad-Jet Quartermaster
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Toulouse 500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Online Twenty Century
"YUPIIIII" Goiás Brazil
2,386 legs, 4,804.0 hours
2,220 legs,
4,534.7 hours online 2,378 legs,
4,774.4 hours ACARS 254 legs,
644.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 18 2023 11:33 ET by Thiago Braga
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Andrew Vane wrote:
HI Remy. I built my own system Not hard. Just youtube vids.
My system:
i7 12700 3.7 Ghz
32GB ram
3 SSD's (2 or 1TB and 1 is 500GB I think)
Nvidia 10gb (I think) 3080 GPU
I don't run MSFS2020 but XP12 runs just fine (and XP11 did as well). I dont have all the sliders to the right but mid-way mostly and runs smoothly with good visuals and experience for me.
+1
You should try to build it. It`s fun. You may want to use this site for help in getting going: https://pcpartpicker.com/
TB
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DVA9655
Senior Captain, B747-400
Gold
OLP
Joined on January 01 2011
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Eight Century Club
Golden State Club
Two Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Double Century Club
"DAL9655, you are cleared for takeoff" New York, NY
895 legs, 4,587.4 hours
211 legs,
773.2 hours online 695 legs,
3,646.5 hours ACARS 12 legs,
40.6 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 18 2023 13:40 ET by Remy Mermelstein
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The things that eek me out when it comes to building my own rig are:
1) I have never done it and am not the most... delicate person, I dont want to mess up a 1k component
2) I would value warranty, and when you build your own rig you either get for each component, which adds up to a lot more than from a known builder company; and yuou do not have a central resource to deal with it. (correct me if I am wrong please)
3) I just quickly did a build based on first impression what parts I may want, and for that price, I can get something almost the same from a real builder and not have to worry about 1/2:
CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($275.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($136.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($581.71 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1339.97 @ Amazon)
Case: Anidees AI Crystal XL AR 3 ATX Full Tower Case ($319.89 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3283.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-18 13:40 EDT-0400
Not sure if I am not making sense here.
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DVA9545
Senior Captain, B777-200
Platinum
OLP, 737-ATP
Joined on March 03 2011
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Quad-Jet Quartermaster
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Toulouse 500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Online Twenty Century
"YUPIIIII" Goiás Brazil
2,386 legs, 4,804.0 hours
2,220 legs,
4,534.7 hours online 2,378 legs,
4,774.4 hours ACARS 254 legs,
644.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 18 2023 15:14 ET by Thiago Braga
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Remy Mermelstein wrote:
The things that eek me out when it comes to building my own rig are:
1) I have never done it and am not the most... delicate person, I dont want to mess up a 1k component
2) I would value warranty, and when you build your own rig you either get for each component, which adds up to a lot more than from a known builder company; and yuou do not have a central resource to deal with it. (correct me if I am wrong please)
3) I just quickly did a build based on first impression what parts I may want, and for that price, I can get something almost the same from a real builder and not have to worry about 1/2:
CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($275.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($136.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($581.71 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1339.97 @ Amazon)
Case: Anidees AI Crystal XL AR 3 ATX Full Tower Case ($319.89 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3283.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-18 13:40 EDT-0400
Not sure if I am not making sense here.
Just look at this build at Lenovo: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/desktops/legion-desktops/legion-t-series-towers/legion-tower-7i-gen-8-(34l-intel)/90v7003bus?orgRef=https%253A%252F%252Fslickdeals.net%252F&clickid=0jBzGHQXBxyNREVVHD2hrVLtUkFU%3AGVdww9VTo0&irgwc=1&PID=10451&acid=ww%3Aaffiliate%3Abv0as6&cid=us%3Aaffiliate%3Acxsaam
Put this code: BENGEXTRA6 at the check out ; USD2660.00 total... A very good price for RTX 4090
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DVA9655
Senior Captain, B747-400
Gold
OLP
Joined on January 01 2011
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Eight Century Club
Golden State Club
Two Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Double Century Club
"DAL9655, you are cleared for takeoff" New York, NY
895 legs, 4,587.4 hours
211 legs,
773.2 hours online 695 legs,
3,646.5 hours ACARS 12 legs,
40.6 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 18 2023 15:24 ET by Remy Mermelstein
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Thiago Braga wrote:
Remy Mermelstein wrote:
The things that eek me out when it comes to building my own rig are:
1) I have never done it and am not the most... delicate person, I dont want to mess up a 1k component
2) I would value warranty, and when you build your own rig you either get for each component, which adds up to a lot more than from a known builder company; and yuou do not have a central resource to deal with it. (correct me if I am wrong please)
3) I just quickly did a build based on first impression what parts I may want, and for that price, I can get something almost the same from a real builder and not have to worry about 1/2:
CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($275.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($136.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($581.71 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1339.97 @ Amazon)
Case: Anidees AI Crystal XL AR 3 ATX Full Tower Case ($319.89 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3283.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-18 13:40 EDT-0400
Not sure if I am not making sense here.
Just look at this build at Lenovo: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/desktops/legion-desktops/legion-t-series-towers/legion-tower-7i-gen-8-(34l-intel)/90v7003bus?orgRef=https%253A%252F%252Fslickdeals.net%252F&clickid=0jBzGHQXBxyNREVVHD2hrVLtUkFU%3AGVdww9VTo0&irgwc=1&PID=10451&acid=ww%3Aaffiliate%3Abv0as6&cid=us%3Aaffiliate%3Acxsaam
Put this code: BENGEXTRA6 at the check out ; USD2660.00 total... A very good price for RTX 4090
Thanks so much Thiago, I'll take a look.
How'd you get the code?
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DVA9545
Senior Captain, B777-200
Platinum
OLP, 737-ATP
Joined on March 03 2011
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Quad-Jet Quartermaster
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Toulouse 500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Online Twenty Century
"YUPIIIII" Goiás Brazil
2,386 legs, 4,804.0 hours
2,220 legs,
4,534.7 hours online 2,378 legs,
4,774.4 hours ACARS 254 legs,
644.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 18 2023 16:14 ET by Thiago Braga
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At slickdeals.net
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DVA2887
Senior Captain, B727-200
Gold
OLP, 737-ATP, VFRADV E-MAIL
Joined on January 30 2006
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Tri-Jet Triumph
US Coastal Club
Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
US Mountaineer Club
Toulouse 250 Club
Online Seven Century Club
Charlotte, NC
1,224 legs, 1,724.6 hours
793 legs,
997.8 hours online 1,207 legs,
1,703.8 hours ACARS 31 legs,
49.6 hours event 3 legs dispatched, 2.5
hours
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Posted onPost created on
September 18 2023 17:32 ET by Andrew Vane
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that 4080 is making my mouth water just thinking about it.
Andrew VaneSenior Captain, B727-200
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DVA9545
Senior Captain, B777-200
Platinum
OLP, 737-ATP
Joined on March 03 2011
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Quad-Jet Quartermaster
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Toulouse 500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Online Twenty Century
"YUPIIIII" Goiás Brazil
2,386 legs, 4,804.0 hours
2,220 legs,
4,534.7 hours online 2,378 legs,
4,774.4 hours ACARS 254 legs,
644.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 18 2023 20:16 ET by Thiago Braga
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Andrew Vane wrote:
that 4080 is making my mouth water just thinking about it.
No Andrew, is the RTX4090: Legion Tower 7i Gen 8 (Intel) with RTX 4090
And it does our mouth watery!
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DVA2481
Senior Captain, A320
Silver E-MAIL
Joined on July 15 2005
Iditarod Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
US Capital Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Toulouse 250 Club
Madrid Spain
693 legs, 1,361.7 hours
433 legs,
894.1 hours online 591 legs,
1,077.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 20 2023 05:53 ET by Jimmi Cranford
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I built mine. Used google and https://pcpartpicker.com/ for inspiration.
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DVA13420
Assistant Chief Pilot, B737-800
Diamond
Joined on February 25 2018
50 State Club
Comrade Club
Toulouse 250 Club
Winter Olympics Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
Millennium Club
Springfield, MO
1,030 legs, 1,771.6 hours
1,029 legs,
1,769.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 26 2023 02:24 ET by Adam Magiera
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I've built my own for the most part recently
Adam MagieraAssistant Chief Pilot, B737-800
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DVA13438
Captain, A350-900
Diamond
OLP
Joined on March 04 2018
50 State Club
B757 100 Club
Gulf Breeze Club
US Coastal Club
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
Millennium Club
Online Six Century Club
Toulouse 500 Club
Portland, TX
1,226 legs, 2,668.9 hours
695 legs,
1,329.8 hours online 1,225 legs,
2,667.2 hours ACARS 5 legs,
11.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 26 2023 08:52 ET by Darrell Arview
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I bought mine from a company called Xforce, I believe they are in north or south Carolina They build them just for online flying. I am very happy with what they built for me.. I have had this for about 10 years now and still works great. I have since done a couple of upgrades.
Darrell ArviewCaptain, A350-900
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DVA9655
Senior Captain, B747-400
Gold
OLP
Joined on January 01 2011
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Eight Century Club
Golden State Club
Two Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Double Century Club
"DAL9655, you are cleared for takeoff" New York, NY
895 legs, 4,587.4 hours
211 legs,
773.2 hours online 695 legs,
3,646.5 hours ACARS 12 legs,
40.6 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 26 2023 09:14 ET by Remy Mermelstein
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Darrell Arview wrote:
I bought mine from a company called Xforce, I believe they are in north or south Carolina They build them just for online flying. I am very happy with what they built for me.. I have had this for about 10 years now and still works great. I have since done a couple of upgrades.
Do they have a good warranty/support system? Ill take a look.
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DVA14023
First Officer, B767-300
360°
Joined on August 08 2021
50 State Club
Globetrotter
US Coastal Club
B757 100 Club
US Mountaineer Club
Commuter Conquest
Everett 500 Club
Two Million Mile Club
DVA Two-Year Anniversary
Online Eight Century
Flying Colonel
"What goes up must come down, gently ..." New Zealand
1,527 legs, 5,356.6 hours
815 legs,
1,793.1 hours online 1,486 legs,
5,170.7 hours ACARS 9 legs,
12.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 27 2023 11:08 ET by Mike Bell
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RTX 4090 $NZ 3,399.00 ouch
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