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DVA14133
Captain, A350-900

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Norman, OK

1,158 legs, 2,101.7 hours
1,157 legs, 2,099.7 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on August 03 2025 16:38 ET by Raymond Stone

Tried to set up flight from ZWAT for China Eastern flights. This airport, and as I discovered, and many other Chinese airports are not in any flight planning app. I use SimBrief for most of my flight planning. According to Navigraph many Chinese airports are not in their database mostly because China doesn't publish info about them. So why does DVA still have them in its database if we can't create a flight plan for them? Why not remove them as they are discovered to not be in flight planning databases?

Raymond Stone

Captain, A350-900

DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
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Marietta, GA

2,401 legs, 9,739.8 hours
240 legs, 553.9 hours online
2,059 legs, 8,532.9 hours ACARS
75 legs, 196.3 hours event
2,437 legs, 9,874.7 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4 hours

Posted onPost created on August 04 2025 09:14 ET by Luke Kolin

But the airport does exist. Perhaps you should ask the authors/maintainers of the planning apps you use to update their databases?

Cheers

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on August 04 2025 15:22 ET by Raymond Stone

Looking at the Navigraph forums, many others have already asked. Navigraph says unless China releases airport data, nothing they can do. I did discover that all the Chinese airports are in XPlane 12 and that the XP Flight Planner has the option to use XPlane database so all is not lost.

Raymond Stone

Captain, A350-900

DVA1416
Captain, B747-400

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Rotterdam, Zuid-Holland Netherlands

1,055 legs, 3,395.0 hours
43 legs, 103.4 hours online
977 legs, 3,090.2 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on August 05 2025 00:57 ET by Luc Maaskant

Hi Raymond,

https://yinlei.org/x-plane10/aeronautical-information-publication-aip-and-airport-charts-of-china.html

A recent extract of the China AIP is published here regularly. It's not ideal, but perhaps it will give you some help with your flight planning.

Navigraph is basically fed by raw Jeppesen data, and even Jeppview World lacks a lot of domestically used Chinese airports.

Happy flying!

Luc

Luc Maaskant

Captain, B747-400

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Boston, MA

526 legs, 1,757.7 hours
35 legs, 50.5 hours online
491 legs, 1,688.6 hours ACARS
5 legs, 9.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on August 05 2025 21:11 ET by Alex Schlesinger

For these situations I used LittleNavMap which builds the flight planning database off of your simulator rather than a third party data provider.

Alex Schlesinger (DVA610)

Posted onPost created on August 06 2025 20:50 ET by Raymond Stone

Thanks Luc and Alex. I totally forgot about LittleNavMap using the XPlane database. I'm so used to using the Navigraph database. LittleNavMap is my primary flight planning tool. Reloaded the XPlane scenery files. Works perfectly.

Raymond Stone

Captain, A350-900

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