Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - Thinking of enrolling in the Flight Academy (I just have a question...)

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | DVA2006 | Thinking of enrolling in the Flight Academy (I just have a question...)

DVA2230
Senior Captain, B777-200

Joined on March 28 2005
Globetrotter
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DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

"Come Fly with me!....."
Álvaro Obregón, D.f. México

2,331 legs, 17,045.4 hours
1,778 legs, 12,845.3 hours online
1,390 legs, 10,107.6 hours ACARS
1 legs, 11.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on January 09 2007 11:46 ET by Isidoro Attie

Im giving a lot of thought in joining the first course on the Flight Academy. Im just curious on how much time and when one has to dedicate this time to the course. Is it like captains and FO test that you get right away and have a certain time to finish them? or do you set your schedule with the instructor?

Im planning on joining...even though I have quite some hours now with online flying experience, I hear its quite worth it...

Any words of encouragement?

Cheers...

Isidoro Attie (DVA2230)

DVA057
Senior Captain, B777-200
COMM

Joined on June 02 2002
Events Century Club
Six Century Club
Online Quintuple Century Club
Everett 500 Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

"We Are ... Penn State!"
Atlanta, GA USA

672 legs, 1,338.4 hours
531 legs, 1,076.4 hours online
392 legs, 786.1 hours ACARS
190 legs, 406.3 hours event

Posted onPost created on January 09 2007 11:54 ET by Terry Eshenour

The PPL course in the Flight Academy is a combination of ground school and online flying instruction with CFI's. The time to complete the course is dependent upon student and instructor schedules. Obviously for efficiency reasons it is best to be prepared to work through the course without major gaps.

I am enrolled in the PPL course with my first lesson this evening. Like you, I am excited over the prospects of improving my aviation knowledge and piloting skills. wink

Terry Eshenour

Senior Captain, B777-200

DVA2887
Senior Captain, A320
OLP, 737-ATP, VFRADV
E-MAIL

Joined on January 30 2006
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Tri-Jet Triumph
US Coastal Club
Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
US Mountaineer Club
Toulouse 250 Club
Online Eight Century

Charlotte, NC

1,284 legs, 1,794.0 hours
838 legs, 1,045.6 hours online
1,266 legs, 1,772.0 hours ACARS
31 legs, 49.6 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.5 hours
CURRENTLY LOGGED IN

Posted onPost created on January 09 2007 12:17 ET by Andrew Vane

I joined as well after being here about a year. This is a great opportunity to learn from real world pilots about real world procedures. My first flight is tonight (Tues) with Jim Warner. I hope to some day get my real world PPL. These instructors have put in an unmeasureable amount of time not only in preparing these lessons but in implementing them. I can't wait and am truly appreciative of the time Scott, Andrew, George and Jim have put in and are willing to put in to make us all better pilots! biggrin

DVA2086
Senior Captain, B767-300
E-MAIL

Joined on January 12 2005
Online Double Century Club
Six Century Club
50 State Club

Sharpsburg, GA USA

643 legs, 1,866.3 hours
505 legs, 1,417.9 hours online
418 legs, 1,380.2 hours ACARS
63 legs, 196.8 hours event

Posted onPost created on January 09 2007 12:21 ET by Chris Williams

Pray you don't get Scott......He has a bobble head doll (very goofy looking) in the cockpit (I think it's in the likeness of Keech) and if the head starts to bobble then Scott will cut off the engines and test your "gliding" abilities.

All the instructors are great. You are going to learn so much. Don't expect to fly through it (pun intended). It'll take a couple of weeks but it's definitely worth it.

Chris Williams

Senior Captain, B767-300

DVA2570
Senior Captain, B727-200
COMM

Joined on September 10 2005
Online Double Century Club
Everett 500 Club
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Million Mile Club
Millennium Club
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Mesa, AZ

1,242 legs, 3,308.9 hours
296 legs, 407.9 hours online
1,173 legs, 3,173.3 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on January 09 2007 12:29 ET by Jim Pray

I can't think of a more enjoyable experience, it was terrific and I am not kissing up either!!!

They are a great group and always willing to help.

Go for it!!! You will not regret it.

Jim

Jim Pray (DVA2570)

DVA2253
Senior Captain, DC-8-61
COMM

Joined on April 01 2005
Everett 250 Club
Online Century Club
Eight Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary

"I'd rather be flying!"
Church Hill, TN USA

862 legs, 1,344.5 hours
108 legs, 165.2 hours online
299 legs, 485.1 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on January 09 2007 12:45 ET by George Lewis

Isidoro,
We typically do lessons on weeknights around 9PM eastern time but we do have some flexibility there. Lessons typically last about an hour or two hours, depending on the student and the instructor's time availability.

It's self paced, and the point I'd like most to emphasis is that is it NOT like the typical program changes or ratings additions - the courses are all about live flight instruction. We have a PPL manual for the course and there is an exam, but it's really about teaching pilots how to fly. It's a prerequisite for the soon to open commercial course (it is nearly ready to go - we still have to finalize the CRJ checklist we are using, fix a couple of minor editing issues in the commercial manual, and then it's ready)

Pilots going into the PPL will need FS2004 (sorry, we don't use FS2002 or even FSX yet), voice and of course internet access, preferably high speed access so latency isn't an issue. Sign up and send a request for flight instruction and Jim Warner will get in touch with you and help you get going.

George Lewis (DVA2253)

DVA2784
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP, COMM, 737-ATP

Joined on January 01 2006
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Online Double Century Club
Quad-Jet Quartermaster
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Four Million Mile Club

"The PAST...learn from it or repeat it."
Highland Home, AL USA

2,307 legs, 9,780.7 hours
243 legs, 873.7 hours online
2,034 legs, 8,568.9 hours ACARS
22 legs, 51.7 hours event
0 legs dispatched, 0.5 hours

Posted onPost created on January 09 2007 13:55 ET by Rob Morgan

I just signed up as well and am waiting to get on the schedule. I too am looking forward to my first session with Jim

Rob Morgan

Senior Captain, B777-200

Posted onPost created on January 09 2007 18:43 ET by Isidoro Attie

Sounds very interesting.....only good comments for the flight academy...

Ill go for it...

Im always open to learn new things....(at least one every day...lol)

Thanks for your word of encouragement....

Isidoro Attie (DVA2230)

DVA2370
Senior Captain, B737-800
OLP, COMM, VFRADV

Joined on May 26 2005
Online Triple Century Club
Commuter Conquest
Six Century Club
Stage 1 Prop Triple Century Club
50 State Club
US Coastal Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Flagler Beach, FL USA

675 legs, 726.8 hours
319 legs, 311.4 hours online
179 legs, 146.1 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.6 hours event
0 legs dispatched, 4.0 hours

Posted onPost created on January 09 2007 19:15 ET by Scott Clarke

Hula Girl and Ted E Bear are not mine......They are owned by DK, but he will loan them out (for a price) to any student that feels that they need them. Ted E Bear is great to fly with as he is always smiling and approves everything you might do in the airplane. Hula Girl is there to help you judge your landings, climbs and descents. Since her head is mounted on a spring, she reacts about as fast as the VSI instrument.....You might need to recalibrate the spring before you fly with her, depends on who was flying with her on the last flight.

Take the course, we look forward to seeing you...

Scott Clarke (DVA2370)

DVA2750
Senior Captain, B757-200

Joined on December 17 2005
Online Quadruple Century Club
Six Century Club

"Roll Tide Roll"
Montgomery, AL USA

900 legs, 1,831.7 hours
818 legs, 1,580.2 hours online
804 legs, 1,594.9 hours ACARS
20 legs, 45.5 hours event

Posted onPost created on January 09 2007 19:15 ET by Derek Bradley

Andrew you should go for your RW PPL. I have about 8.4 hours logged and should do my first solo hopefully next weekend

Posted onPost created on January 10 2007 09:18 ET by Andrew Vane

Derek: I plan to eventually. I'm gleaning all I can from the flight academy now but I hope to move further west near KFQD and start my real work PPL there. "All in good time my pretty....all in good time...."

BTW, I had my first lesson last night and it was great! I realized how little I really do know about piloting an aircraft. cool

Posted onPost created on January 10 2007 17:29 ET by Isidoro Attie

Well, I just enrolled.....

Isidoro Attie (DVA2230)

DVA2533
Senior Captain, EMB-120
OLP, COMM

Joined on July 27 2005
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Commuter Conquest
Dorval 500 Club
US Coastal Club
Online Fifteen Century
US Mountaineer Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Bi-Millennium Club

Winter Springs, FL USA

2,087 legs, 2,752.1 hours
1,762 legs, 2,302.1 hours online
1,905 legs, 2,467.0 hours ACARS
29 legs, 31.6 hours event

Posted onPost created on January 10 2007 17:34 ET by Jim Warner

Isi, Glad to have you. Strap yourself in and Let's go flying!! cool

Jim Warner

Senior Captain, EMB-120

DVA3119
Senior Captain, A330-300

Joined on May 08 2006
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Everett 250 Club
Quincentenary Club
Online Double Century Club
Million Mile Club

Sioux Falls, SD USA

596 legs, 2,410.5 hours
265 legs, 722.6 hours online
550 legs, 2,285.7 hours ACARS
6 legs, 17.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on January 10 2007 19:23 ET by Justin Taylor

Great choice Isidoro, It's a blast.

Justin Taylor

Senior Captain, A330-300

DVA3502
Captain, B767-300

Joined on September 01 2006

"Will fly for food."
Northeastern United States

62 legs, 214.5 hours
53 legs, 174.2 hours online
40 legs, 111.4 hours ACARS
5 legs, 10.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on January 11 2007 15:20 ET by Stuart Schechter

I have my DVA PPL and Did it in about a week with instruction every night that I could get!! It is a great course and run by a great bunch of guys

Stuart Schechter

Captain, B767-300

Posted onPost created on January 29 2007 23:45 ET by Isidoro Attie

For some follow-up....I just stepped out of the airplane for my first lesson.

Thanks for all of your comments, Its totally worth it.!!! It helped me with so many other concepts of flying as well, it kinda made clear many things that I was confused about.

Thanks Jim for a great lesson!!! Hope the flu gets better.

Thanks Robert for your company and comments, I hope hangover is not that bad lol...

Isidoro Attie (DVA2230)

Posted onPost created on January 30 2007 11:08 ET by Jim Warner

Glad you had a good time and learned some stuff. This course has got to be experienced to be believed as to how much real world flying is modeled very well in FS2004. As I said last night, everything we learned about pitch, power, and trim as well as landing configurations, straight and level flying, turns, etc. are all transferrable to any plane you fly in FS2004 or in the real world. Have fun using your new skills when flying! biggrin

Jim Warner

Senior Captain, EMB-120

DVA3202
Captain, MD-88

Joined on June 04 2006

Odessa, FL

31 legs, 48.3 hours
4 legs, 6.0 hours online
30 legs, 47.1 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on February 03 2007 00:53 ET by Jimmy McGuirt

I hope I get to do the PPL Course some day. Right now I fly with my keyboard... landing can be a pain...but I manage. I hope to get a yoke and pedals sometime. But until then it I assume the instructors want me to have some kind of better control. But I can't wait to learn from these guys...

Jimmy McGuirt

Captain, MD-88

DVA3759
Captain, CRJ-200

Joined on June 06 2006
Century Club

"V1, Vr, V2, Positive Rate, Gear Up"
Southeastern United States

115 legs, 154.7 hours
88 legs, 114.8 hours online
59 legs, 70.1 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on March 11 2007 01:57 ET by Aquino Bonelli

Hey Jimmy, ever thought about just getting an in-expensive yoke untill you can get the nice yoke and peddels? I now have a nice yoke and peddel set that I bought from avshop and it came with a headset but before then I just bought a simple joystick type from best-buy and it had a little throttle thing attached to it. It's a Logitech and cost me like 29 bucks.

Aquino Bonelli (DVA3759)

Posted onPost created on March 11 2007 11:50 ET by George Lewis

Agreed - a cheap yoke is not a good as a yoke and pedal setup, but it's alot better than nothing at all smile

DVA3710
Senior Captain, DC-6
OLP, COMM

Joined on November 12 2006
B757 100 Club
50 State Club
Quatercentenary Club
Piston Prop 100 Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"God is my pilot. I'm just the First Officer."
Apopka, FL

432 legs, 690.6 hours
35 legs, 60.8 hours online
385 legs, 620.1 hours ACARS
6 legs, 7.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 11 2007 13:42 ET by Sid Dudley

Another thought.....a joystick would even be better than flying with just the keyboard. You can pick one up for as little as $20 to use in the meantime.

Sid Dudley

Senior Captain, DC-6

DVA4069
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP

Joined on February 18 2007
Everett 250 Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Six Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary

"War Eagle!"
Southeastern United States

681 legs, 2,227.3 hours
478 legs, 1,098.5 hours online
607 legs, 1,936.8 hours ACARS
25 legs, 59.2 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 11 2007 15:00 ET by J.T. Coston

yeah man you need at least a joystick I dont see how in the world you can actually fly with the keyboard.

J.T. Coston (DVA4069)

DVA4091
Captain, B767-300

Joined on February 21 2007

"How do planes fly?"
Novi, MI USA

57 legs, 96.0 hours
35 legs, 45.2 hours online
38 legs, 63.7 hours ACARS
13 legs, 23.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 11 2007 15:33 ET by Abdulahad Khan

hey im thinking of joining too... but do we have to be able to fly on VATSIM (fsx, Vsta problem) can i set up lessons on the FSX mulitplayer
I think that is better because then we can be in the same aircrafts and talk to each other...

Abdulahad Khan (DVA4091)

Posted onPost created on March 11 2007 17:15 ET by Scott Clarke

The Flight Academy uses FS9 or FS2004 and FSNet/Copilot to put you and the instructor into the airplane at the same time. You need a headset and voice and an internet connection...dial up is too slow to allow the planes to work correctly. We do not use FSX or Vista at this time....You will have to fly on VATSIM on one of your x country flights....

Scott Clarke (DVA2370)

Posted onPost created on March 11 2007 17:43 ET by Abdulahad Khan

wait so ACARS works with FSX and Vista right? Im about to download it because im going to take the checkride for 737-800 captain, can i use FSX to do that?

Abdulahad Khan (DVA4091)

DVA4168
Captain, B767-300

Joined on March 08 2007
Century Club

"I wish I had a cool motto..."
Stone Mountain, GA USA

108 legs, 241.6 hours
36 legs, 59.5 hours online
100 legs, 227.9 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.1 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 16 2007 11:22 ET by Curtis Dean

After reading all of the glowing reviews, I think I am going to have to sign up. One question, I have a very hectic schedule, what if I need to reschedule a class. I do not want to commit to this and leave someone else high and dry.

Curtis Dean (DVA4168)

Posted onPost created on March 16 2007 14:57 ET by Jim Warner

Curtis, you can communicate with your flight instructor via comments in your PPL course record so you can give notice when you can't make a lesson. Your instructor will reschedule you at your request. smile

Jim Warner

Senior Captain, EMB-120

DVA4148
Captain, B767-300

Joined on March 05 2007
Century Club
Online Century Club

Wood-Ridge, NJ USA

160 legs, 457.7 hours
157 legs, 452.9 hours online
137 legs, 413.5 hours ACARS
20 legs, 44.6 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 22 2007 00:12 ET by Matt Czwakiel

Hmm... I was enrolled in the course but had to drop it since some stuff is coming my way soon, and I'll be busy. x.x
In response to George Lewis's first response (lol), don't you also need Fs Copilot to be in the course? Or that an option?

DVA3931
Senior Captain, L-1011-100
OLP, COMM

Joined on January 19 2007
50 State Club
Tri-Jet Triumph
Million Mile Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Flying Colonel
Globetrotter
Burbank 500 Club
Eurocap Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"De oppresso liber"
Surry, ME

1,882 legs, 3,806.7 hours
478 legs, 767.8 hours online
1,107 legs, 1,674.5 hours ACARS
55 legs, 114.8 hours event
195 legs dispatched, 134.4 hours

Posted onPost created on March 22 2007 08:50 ET by Andrew Kaufmann

Don't confuse FS Copilot with FSNet.

FS Copilot is a payware program by ABACUS software (review: http://www.avsim.com/pages/0299/copilot/co-pilot.htm)

FSNet is a program from www.gates.to, that allows 4 hours free use (roughly enough time to complete the PPL course), and then if you like it, you can purchase the base model for about 5-10 Bucks. The full package that lets you link up to 8 people costs a bit more.

Andrew Kaufmann (DVA3931)

DVA4229
First Officer, B767-300
OLP

Joined on March 19 2007

"Sink rate. Sink Rate."
Southeastern United States

54 legs, 100.9 hours
47 legs, 87.7 hours online
53 legs, 98.4 hours ACARS
7 legs, 11.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on April 01 2007 20:45 ET by Lawrence Woodworth

FSX includes the ability for someone to fly in the right seat with full voice comms, but you're going to have to use their multiplayer interface, not VATSIM's. Microsoft's multiplayer requires a Gamespy account for anything over the internet. Very limiting in my view.

For those of you thinking about a RW PPL, get off your duff before it gets any pricier. When I got my PPL back in 2001 Cessna 172's were renting for $75/hr and instructors were $20/hr. I recently checked my FBO and they're up to $109/hr and $45/hr, respectively. Add another $15 - $20/hr if you want any sort of navigation avionics onboard (IFR GPS, etc). Ground school (which you should ace after DVA's PPL course) is $550. There are cheaper planes out there (Cessna 152's, etc) but unless you're a small person you'll have to pay CLOSE attention to your Weight & Balance sheet when you include the instructor. I weighed 235 back when I first started flying and the instructor's comment that we were OK "as long as the tanks weren't full" made me decide that maybe the 152 wasn't a good choice.

Flight schools sometimes offer package deals where you pay for it all up front. Here's the one's at the FBO I used. The hours listed are national averages for a PPL. Use this as a guide for total costs, but remember prices are always rising.

C-152 C-172/PA 28
35 hours of flight training with instructor $ 4,550.00 $ 5,390.00
20 hours of solo flight time $ 1,700.00 $ 2,180.00
20 hours of pre and post flight instructor briefing $ 900.00 $ 900.00
Enrollment Fee $ 35.00 $ 35.00
Less available block time discounts, if prepaid ($ 715.00) ($ 847.00)
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST $ 6,470.00 $ 7,658.00

{edit} I just LOVE forums that insist on deciding you didn't REALLY want those formatting spaces in your post. On each line, the first price is for a Cessna 152 and the second price is if you use a Cessna 172 or Piper Warrior II.

Lawrence Woodworth (DVA4229)

AFV011
Senior Captain, B777-300

Joined on September 19 2004
GVA 5 Year Anniversary
Online Two Fifty Club
Triple Century Club
Historic Triple Century Club

"Remember...140, 250, and REALLY FAST"
Midwestern United States

394 legs, 606.7 hours
274 legs, 430.6 hours online
86 legs, 126.5 hours ACARS
8 legs, 16.0 hours event
501 legs, 763.5 hours total

Posted onPost created on April 01 2007 23:13 ET by Michael Carter

I remember when a 152 was $28 an hour and an IFR 172 Cutlass was $45 at CPS. Last time I checked about a year ago at KSAR a 172 was going for $65 an hour. By the time I get current again it'll probably be $90 an hour. But we're out in the sticks, so things tend to be a bit cheaper here.

Posted onPost created on April 05 2007 21:34 ET by Lawrence Woodworth

Aye. The prices I quoted were for Dulles Aviation at KHEF - a regional airport in Virginia. They're just under the lip of the KIAD Class B and have an FAA-run control tower even though no commercial operations really operate out of there. I'm sure all that contributes to the cost of operations there (and therefore the cost of rentals).

Lawrence Woodworth (DVA4229)

Posted onPost created on September 02 2008 00:50 ET by Isidoro Attie

Back on track in the PPL course and is LOOKING VERY EXCITING!!!!!!

Thanks for your time Jim.

I enjoyed the past few flights....

Isidoro Attie (DVA2230)

DVA3721
Captain, B777-200

Joined on November 14 2006
Everett Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Triple Century Club

Kent, WA

342 legs, 935.3 hours
36 legs, 66.4 hours online
225 legs, 647.5 hours ACARS
4 legs, 9.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on September 02 2008 17:54 ET by Ian Phillips

Way to bring up a 1+ year old thread

Ian Phillips

Captain, B777-200

DVA3337
First Officer, B767-300

Joined on June 23 2006
Century Club
Online Century Club

"Master of the 737-700 and 737-800!"
Southeastern United States

133 legs, 348.3 hours
102 legs, 292.9 hours online
97 legs, 269.1 hours ACARS
26 legs, 108.4 hours event

Posted onPost created on September 02 2008 19:29 ET by Steven Glass

Ian, it was his thread, why does it matter. I know about bring threads back for the dead, but come on if it is there own thread, who cares. He is supporting the Flight Acadamy. Plus it is in a channel that only has 309 total threads.

Steven Glass (DVA3337)

DVA3672
Senior Captain, A320
OLP
E-MAIL

Joined on October 29 2006
B757 100 Club
50 State Club
Two Million Mile Club
Bi-Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
US Capital Club
Toulouse Millennium Club
Online Fifteen Century

"Chris, NOT in Seattle"
Northeastern United States

2,534 legs, 6,223.1 hours
1,537 legs, 3,252.2 hours online
2,243 legs, 5,407.0 hours ACARS
4 legs, 6.0 hours event
2 legs dispatched, 19.5 hours

Posted onPost created on September 02 2008 20:25 ET by Chris Frasure

Wow Ian...bad day? I see nothing wrong with him speaking of this thread about his PPL. Its better than starting a new one and it updates everyone that was involved in the past. The Golden Rule might apply here.

CF

Posted onPost created on September 03 2008 12:05 ET by J.T. Coston

Couldn't have been said better Chris.

J.T. Coston (DVA4069)

DVA6345
First Officer, B737-800
E-MAIL

Joined on September 02 2008

Southeastern United States

7 legs, 11.3 hours

Posted onPost created on September 04 2008 23:09 ET by William Altieri

Is it available for FSX yet? I would love to join the academy.

William Altieri

First Officer, B737-800

Posted onPost created on September 05 2008 18:22 ET by Scott Clarke

Working on FSX....two instructors have the program

Scott Clarke (DVA2370)

DVA4917
Assistant Chief Pilot, MD-88

Joined on August 29 2007
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Everett 250 Club
Stock Car Racing Club
Quincentenary Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"Welcome to wherever you are..."
Defiance, OH

579 legs, 1,634.1 hours
232 legs, 657.7 hours online
571 legs, 1,622.6 hours ACARS
15 legs, 31.5 hours event

Posted onPost created on September 06 2008 08:05 ET by Tony Stork

Don't worry about it, Ian tends to have issues with old threads. Maybe one looked at him funny once?

Tony Stork

Assistant Chief Pilot, MD-88

DVA5544
Captain, A320

Joined on February 07 2008

"I'm at a 15° chin-up attitude."
Spiez, Bern Schweiz

34 legs, 58.3 hours
24 legs, 34.9 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on September 06 2008 22:34 ET by Alexander Kolb

Scott, can you make me an instructor? I want that program

I'm reall good at teching crashing, stalling, spinning, ditching, and extinguishing fires.

Alexander Kolb

Captain, A320

Posted onPost created on October 10 2008 01:29 ET by Isidoro Attie

http://www.deltava.org/$redirect.do

Something worth bragging about.... wink

Cheers.

again bringing back an 18 month old thread.... lol

Isidoro Attie (DVA2230)

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