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DVA7357
Captain, B737-800
OLP

Joined on May 22 2009
DVA Five-Year Anniversary

"With your eyes turned skyward"
Northeastern United States

90 legs, 155.2 hours
38 legs, 51.3 hours online
86 legs, 150.9 hours ACARS
2 legs, 2.8 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 22 2011 21:16 ET by Matthew McAlpine

Feel free to blast holes in it. Never built one before, all advice is appreciated.

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
ASUS M5A88-V EVO AM3+ AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
GIGABYTE GV-N26UD-896M REV2.0 GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Modular LED Power Supply
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX
G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR
Seagate Momentus ST906403N1A1AS-RK 640GB 5400 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 2.5" Internal Hard Drive -Retail
Acer S211HLbd 21.5'' 5ms LED-Backlight LCD Monitor Slim Design, VESA Compatible
LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04

Matthew McAlpine (DVA7357)

DVA10082
Captain, B777-200
OLP

Joined on August 17 2011
50 State Club
Event Half Century Club
Tin Dispatcher
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Globetrotter
Bi-Millennium Club
Three Million Mile Club
US Coastal Club
US Mountaineer Club
Everett Bi-Millennium Club
Online Twenty Century

"Set your compass to 'E' and get out of my airspace!"
Monroe, LA

2,439 legs, 8,075.6 hours
2,011 legs, 6,340.6 hours online
2,404 legs, 7,981.8 hours ACARS
104 legs, 243.6 hours event
366 legs dispatched, 255.4 hours

Posted onPost created on December 22 2011 21:18 ET by Josh Burr

Video card could be better, if I am reading it correctly, but everything else looks nice.

Josh Burr (DVA10082)

Posted onPost created on December 22 2011 21:33 ET by Matthew McAlpine

What would you suggest Josh? Right now the price quote is just above 800 for the entire pc

Matthew McAlpine (DVA7357)

Posted onPost created on December 22 2011 21:39 ET by Matthew McAlpine

How about a GeForce 550 Ti fermi?

Matthew McAlpine (DVA7357)

Posted onPost created on December 22 2011 21:45 ET by Josh Burr

much better....good luck....BTW, I have:
https://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/cart_detail.do?pageLink=true&bvLoadCart=1&action=add&disp_msg=0

I have the computer on the bottom....

Josh Burr (DVA10082)

DVA5661
Senior Captain, B737-800
OLP, COMM

Joined on March 07 2008
50 State Club
Online Triple Century Club
Flying Colonel
Everett Millennium Club
Globetrotter
DVA Five-Year Anniversary
Two Million Mile Club

"737 or MD-11, how far you wanna go?"
Melbourne, FL USA

1,928 legs, 4,823.7 hours
304 legs, 639.9 hours online
1,880 legs, 4,735.4 hours ACARS
19 legs, 40.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 22 2011 21:51 ET by Vic DeSantis

Josh,

Just as a reference point for you. Here is the rig I built earlier this year. Very pleased with the outcome as it relates to FSX and add-ons.

http://www.deltava.org/thread.do?id=0x17cca

Vic DeSantis (DVA5661)

Posted onPost created on December 22 2011 22:12 ET by Josh Burr

Thanks Vic! Looks nice

Josh Burr (DVA10082)

Posted onPost created on December 22 2011 22:16 ET by Matthew McAlpine

Looks good Chief, I'm excited to build mine next month

Matthew McAlpine (DVA7357)

DVA1690
Senior Captain, MD-88
OLP

Joined on May 05 2004
50 State Club
Quatercentenary Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Stage 1 Jet Double Century Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

"Life begins at Vr"
Longmont, CO USA

477 legs, 700.4 hours
468 legs, 686.6 hours online
254 legs, 389.4 hours ACARS
3 legs, 3.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 22 2011 23:17 ET by Trevor Bair

And my build from about 10 months ago inspired partially by Vic's (whether he knows it or not) smile

http://www.deltava.org/thread.do?id=0x1801b

FSX locked at 30 fps with high settings, no problem. FS9 also has amazing fps (but I don't use it anymore).

Trevor Bair

Senior Captain, MD-88

Posted onPost created on December 23 2011 09:11 ET by Vic DeSantis

Trevor, I like your specs. I was just a month or two ahead of the release of the Sandy Bridge chips. Knowing what I know now, I probably would have waited and gone with the 2600 series. I believe I will incorporate that into my next build effort. Glad you are getting great performance.

Vic DeSantis (DVA5661)

DVA3355
Senior Captain, B777-200

Joined on July 19 2006
Online Century Club
Flying Colonel
Everett 1500 Club
Four Million Mile Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"guiding you home..."
Denver, CO USA

1,959 legs, 8,711.6 hours
181 legs, 715.0 hours online
1,891 legs, 8,382.8 hours ACARS
18 legs, 67.1 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 23 2011 10:13 ET by Daniel Hodnik

Matthew Mcalpine wrote:

Feel free to blast holes in it. Never built one before, all advice is appreciated.

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
ASUS M5A88-V EVO AM3+ AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
GIGABYTE GV-N26UD-896M REV2.0 GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Modular LED Power Supply
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX
G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR
Seagate Momentus ST906403N1A1AS-RK 640GB 5400 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 2.5" Internal Hard Drive -Retail
Acer S211HLbd 21.5'' 5ms LED-Backlight LCD Monitor Slim Design, VESA Compatible
LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04

i know you picked the AMD, probably for cost, but everything i have read says the intel chips i5 and i7 out perform the amd stuff for fs. maybe someone will correct me!

check this comparison of the 1100t with the i5 2500k

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=203

Daniel Hodnik (DVA3355)

Posted onPost created on December 23 2011 14:24 ET by Matthew McAlpine

Wow thanks Daniel, I will be adjusting fire....0

Matthew McAlpine (DVA7357)

DVA3696
First Officer, B757-200

Joined on November 06 2006

"De Plane, De Plane!!!"
Victor, NY USA

91 legs, 184.4 hours
64 legs, 137.0 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on December 23 2011 16:30 ET by Joseph Glick

Yeah, the i5 2500k would be your best bet. I went with Sandy Bridge and couldn't be happier. A couple other points I would like to make:

-You will need a new motherboard for the new chip. Anything from ASUS, ASRock, Gigabyte, or MSI will be good. Just make sure it is a P67 or Z68 socket board.

-That HDD is only 5400rpm and 2.5". Standard HDD's are 3.5" and 7200rpm. I'm not sure if you specifically wanted a 2.5" drive, but if you can, you should get a 3.5" instead, as they perform better than 2.5". The Western Digital Caviar blue/black series and Samsung Spinpoint F3 are all great. (NOTE: the prices of HDD's are super high right now, and i'm not quite sure why. It might be due to the Japanese tsunami last year, but I am not sure...)

-As Josh already said, a better GPU would serve you well. The 550ti or 560ti are what I would recommend.

-Do you plan on buying an operating system? If you do, Windows 7 is the way to go.

-I would suggest an aftermarket CPU cooler. The CPU comes with one, but it is el cheapo, and you would get a lot af mileage from a 3rd party cooler. Have a look at this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 I have one, and it is AMAZING for $30.

-Always buy electronics from Newegg, they're the best. biggrin

Good luck with the build! If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

Joe

Joseph Glick (DVA3696)

Posted onPost created on December 23 2011 22:57 ET by Matthew McAlpine

Thanks for the insight Joe. I am getting all this from newegg. I'll look into the processors! Thanks again.

Matthew McAlpine (DVA7357)

Posted onPost created on December 24 2011 01:09 ET by Matthew McAlpine

Alright Joe, updated my HD to 3.5" 7200 by western digital. What does "bare drive" mean? Also, updated the mobo to ASUS P8Z68 ATX.

Matthew McAlpine (DVA7357)

Posted onPost created on December 24 2011 08:59 ET by Vic DeSantis

Matt - a "bare drive" means that there is literally nothing on it. You will have to load the operating system as Joe pointed out. You may want to figure in an OEM copy of W7 into your calculations (unless you have a copy already).

Vic DeSantis (DVA5661)

Posted onPost created on December 24 2011 13:35 ET by Matthew McAlpine

Oh ok, yeah I have an extra copy

Matthew McAlpine (DVA7357)

Posted onPost created on December 24 2011 13:50 ET by Matthew McAlpine

Do I need to buy a component for Ethernet connection or does the mobo handle that?

Matthew McAlpine (DVA7357)

DVA2533
Senior Captain, EMB-120
OLP, COMM

Joined on July 27 2005
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Commuter Conquest
Dorval 500 Club
US Coastal Club
Online Fifteen Century
US Mountaineer Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Bi-Millennium Club

Winter Springs, FL USA

2,087 legs, 2,752.1 hours
1,762 legs, 2,302.1 hours online
1,905 legs, 2,467.0 hours ACARS
29 legs, 31.6 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 24 2011 13:56 ET by Jim Warner

Ethernet (gigabit lan) should be on your mobo along with your USB ports, audio, and kybd/mouse ports. Good luck on your build!

Jim Warner

Senior Captain, EMB-120

Posted onPost created on December 24 2011 18:47 ET by Matthew McAlpine

Thanks Jum

Matthew McAlpine (DVA7357)

Posted onPost created on December 24 2011 22:51 ET by Daniel Hodnik

Vic DeSantis wrote:

Matt - a "bare drive" means that there is literally nothing on it. You will have to load the operating system as Joe pointed out. You may want to figure in an OEM copy of W7 into your calculations (unless you have a copy already).

Vic, and others. What is the deal with Windows 7 and OEM copies. I know they are tied to the motherboard originally installed on, ie no transfer. This is great, what if I need to RMA my mobo, get a different board back. am I out of luck?

Daniel Hodnik (DVA3355)

Posted onPost created on December 25 2011 08:18 ET by Vic DeSantis

Dan - the discussion of "bare" referred to the hard drive which Matt was asking about. I was making mention that he would need an original copy of W7 (or whatever operating system he chooses - could be XP or Vista. etc) to install to the HDD. The MOBO really has nothing to to with it and if it goes bad return it as an RMA - nothing lost. You still have your hard drive, operating system, etc. IN the event you get a bad hard drive (well, you still have an original version "OEM" of the operating system) to load onto the new drive when it arrives. Naturally there are some other considerations such as doing a completely new install if you change components in this fashion as you will want the operating system to correctly write to your registry.

Vic DeSantis (DVA5661)

Posted onPost created on December 26 2011 16:36 ET by Daniel Hodnik

Vic DeSantis wrote:

Dan - the discussion of "bare" referred to the hard drive which Matt was asking about. I was making mention that he would need an original copy of W7 (or whatever operating system he chooses - could be XP or Vista. etc) to install to the HDD. The MOBO really has nothing to to with it and if it goes bad return it as an RMA - nothing lost. You still have your hard drive, operating system, etc. IN the event you get a bad hard drive (well, you still have an original version "OEM" of the operating system) to load onto the new drive when it arrives. Naturally there are some other considerations such as doing a completely new install if you change components in this fashion as you will want the operating system to correctly write to your registry.

yep, i am familiar with oem drives. my real question was with oem versions of windows 7.

regarding windows 7 oem, and trying to save a buck.
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en/genuinewindows7/thread/3087e386-4cfa-4cb1-9bb9-dd79ee6b0d2d
http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=50617

not hijacking the thread. this is information for myself, and other builders trying to save a buck.

Daniel Hodnik (DVA3355)

Posted onPost created on December 26 2011 16:42 ET by Matthew McAlpine

No worries bout hijacking the thread Daniel, like I said this is my first build so I anyone has any questions, ask them so we all can learn.

Matthew McAlpine (DVA7357)

Posted onPost created on December 26 2011 17:27 ET by Vic DeSantis

Not to focus on "OEM" I was just adding that you will need a licensed version of W7...you can pick one up on-line, at Staples, and Office Depot - wherever. Point was - it does not matter if you need to return any of the components. If you have a copy of the OS you can reload onto anything. smile

Posted onPost created on December 26 2011 20:03 ET by Matthew McAlpine

Thanks for the great info Vic. Can't wait to build

Matthew McAlpine (DVA7357)

DVA5255
First Officer, A330-300

Joined on November 17 2007

Western United States

31 legs, 54.8 hours
15 legs, 18.7 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on December 31 2011 20:24 ET by Louis Vanbelkum

If you have not already decided i suggest a 955 black edition and a better graphics card if you can't afford i5 2500K with a decent graphics card. I went with the AMD 8120 and a evga gtx 560 2gig and i am having huge problems right now and can't solve it but i am working on it right now. Until i fix it i can't suggest the 8120 to compete with the i5, but i know the 955 works good for fsx i have seen quite a few people with a 955 or 965 in there fsx builds.

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